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William Milton Cooper vs Alex 'the fraud' Jones

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I'm sure plenty of you know who Alex Jones is, I bet only a small fraction, if anyone on here, know who William Milton Cooper was.

Cooper, author of Behold a Pale Horse (I'll attach the original unrevised 500+ page PDF version of his book) and host of Hour of the Time radio talkshow (will also attach ALL of the talkshow recordings) which aired from 1991 to his death in November 2001. My opinion is there's a reason why Alex Jones is still alive.. but those like Cooper murdered by the feds on his front doorstep because of warrant for "unpaid taxes".

“Alex Jones, you are a bold-faced, stinking, rotten, little coward liar.” - Bill Cooper

It doesn't matter which search domain you use to find anything on ol' wild Bill Cooper, they all say one thing, crazy conspiracy theorist.. even Rolling Stone wrote an article saying Cooper "planted the seeds of QAnon conspiracy theory".

"William Cooper is the most dangerous radio host in America." - Rush Limbaugh during his broadcast quoting from a White House memo shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing.

I will attach some of my favorite Bill Cooper quotes

"What does the emperor do when the people have become restive and the people are asking questions and when the people don't like the policies, he sends them to a circus, he builds a giant coliseum and begins to throw the Christians to the lions, has big chariot races, and football games and basketball games... all to keep the idiots preoccupied with things that don't mean anything in the scheme of the entire world, so that they don't ever get smart enough to learn how they're being manipulated, so that they never learn what the truth is."

"Let me tell you something, when a 150 of the most powerful men and women in the world can meet in secret in Baden Baden, Germany (Bilderberg group) and plot the fate of billions and nobody even cares about it but 6 football players go to lunch together and it's in the headlines across the country, you have a reflection of society which exists and it is a sick society and is doomed for self destruction."

"All media in this country, radio, television and print,is all owned by 5 corporations, all of these corporations are owned / controlled and members of council on foreign relations sit at their board of directors, go to your local media station and newspaper, it's owned by a corporation and when you trace the interlocking of all of them you'll come to 5. And all journalists know that there are some things you don't write about and you don't talk about because you'll loose your job and that's where the control is."

"They pretend to fight over this, it's called the Hegelian Dialectic "we want all these people to do something, you and I will get together and we will create 2 different causes, we'll get all these people wrapped up in it, we'll pretend to fight against each other and this fight will bring the conclusion we wanted in the first place and they'll all think it happened accidentally by them and we didn't have anything to do with it" how many of you understand the concept of Hegelian Dialectic of manipulation of political resolution? If you don't, you better read Hegel and you better study it, because that's what's happening... That's what this abortion issue is all about, can the government decide the abortion issue? Can you decide it with laws? If you could everybody would obey the law and there wouldn't be any issue since the supreme court already made the law.. the whole issue has been made to create a conflict which cannot be solved except by some world body"

"At some future date it will be used to promulgate the illusion of an extraterrestrial threat, at which time the nations of the world will be made to get down on their knees and beg for the coming together under a one world government for.. who speaks for planet earth?" They have been prepping us for years with movies out of Hollywood, Independence day, War of the Worlds, Arrival, Pacific Rim, Power Rangers, etc etc

"... for a disarmed people is an enslaved people, second article and amendment has nothing to do with the right to hunt, it was to protect us against tyranny, people who own firearms and belong to militias are not extremists they're not anti-government, they're not terrorists domestic or otherwise, they are what they have always been american patriots dedicated to the principles and ideals upon which this nation was founded and they are ready and willing as they have always been throughout the history of this nation to give their life in defense of the freedom of the american people and of the preservation of the constitutional republic, anyone who proposes to take the guns away from the american people or to register guns are to in any way control the people's right to keep and bear arms are not only extremists they are traitors, they are the terrorists, they are the extremists, they are the liars and i have proven it to you not with words not with fluffy good feeling crap that you hear from them all the time but with documentation and facts, with the law, with the truth with the real history, are you a communist marxist socialist or are you an american and you'd better make that decision pretty soon, if you're an american welcome, i'll fight and die beside you anytime it's required to protect the freedom of all of us, if you decide you're a socialist we will ultimately meet up on a battlefield and i'm going to have to kill you and that's the truth and i will not hesitate because i know you will kill me if i do and that also is the truth i will do everything in my power as i have done for years to prevent bloodshed from ever happening."

"Every ancient culture tells a story of a prehistoric civilization destroyed by flood, apart from biblical Noah's flood the most famous is the sinking of Atlantis. Plato says they were a ancient race that created civilization, they happily lived in a sinless condition, they became great and wicked, they were destroyed for their sins and destroyed by WATER. Water means people, great masses of people.. Socialism, democracy, large numbers of people, remember in Lion King? The old King was killed by the stampede of the herd, the cattle, the people, brought on by the machinations of Scar the dark lion with a scar above his eye representing Cain."

"Like the Biblical story, the legend of Atlantis states that it's destruction was due in large part to its passion for limitless luxury, no longer did the Atlanteans value goodness above material wealth, does that sound familiar? Plato says, the portion of divinity within them was now becoming faint and weak through being off times blended with a large measure of mortality, LOVING THEIR POSSESSIONS ABOVE ALL ELSE. The Atlanteans have lost their virtue. For the old Golden age will be resurrected, and if you noticed in Lion King it will be resurrected in the body of RACISM, for in end of the movie all the animals standing only with their own kind, none of them mixed, and the hyenas representing the black and hispanic race had disappeared and were nowhere in sight."

"Israel was created as the instrument to bring about the battle of armageddon and fulfilment of prophecy, a war that will be so terrible where nuclear weapons will be used so that the American citizens and the other people of the world will beg for no more war and what's the answer to that? They're going to be told that the only way we can guarantee no more war is if we destroy the sovereignty of nations and we come together as one humanity under one world government. Starting in about 1996, battle of Armageddon will become a reality, that's why Saddam Hussein will not be destroyed, he will be the instrument to bring that to pass. Saddam Hussein will be shown as the Anti Christ. Babylon is in Iraq. It's not about oil, it's about the revival of Mystery Babylon. Read the book of Revelations wether you believe in the book or not, read it because the men who are bringing this about are using it as their script"





My theory on the flat earth movement, they are are hypnotized through videos. I'll you why so many fall for the flat earth nonsense. Eric Dubay, the YouTuber, uses a form of hypnotic induction that is discernible to the lay person by noting the measured cadence of his speech in all of his videos. Joel Osteen does the same thing. Not only is Eric able to put them under through a youtube video, but once he does he can program them to do his bidding, provided that it doesn't fall outside the range of their normal behavior.
 
I'm an ... older guy.. yes I had behold a pale horse back in the day.

That was an exciting book. Some of it not to be said. Some of its predictions have failed outright, but some of it still maybe right.
You should download the attached PDF and print it, give it to people, or scrap it like 'they' want to do with the constitution of this great country.

I'm still siding with Alex Jones. At least he's smart enough to pay his taxes and not engage with law enforcement when there's a totally justified warrant out for your arrest. Rest in confusion, Billy boy...
My friend, and with respect, how can we judge a dead guy without listening to anything he talked about on why he didn't want to pay something fraudulent to begin with?

All I'll say is Alex Jones was the most exciting thing on shortwave radio. When they kicked him off, shortwave radio was truly dead.
What made you like Alex Jones? Was it how he told truth with a scripted WWE type of way? Entertainment with a hint of truth. Did he really predict things or was he one of them like Jordan Maxwell? IMO, Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, and those Rogan put on have been compromised.
 
You should download the attached PDF and print it, give it to people, or scrap it like 'they' want to do with the constitution of this great country.


My friend, and with respect, how can we judge a dead guy without listening to anything he talked about on why he didn't want to pay something fraudulent to begin with?


What made you like Alex Jones? Was it how he told truth with a scripted WWE type of way? Entertainment with a hint of truth. Did he really predict things or was he one of them like Jordan Maxwell? IMO, Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, and those Rogan put on have been compromised.
It's simple really. We can judge the individual by his works and in the deceased case, his legacy. And if his "works" prove to be wrong or in error, then that's a hint and a half. Alex Jones is on record making some very, very eerie and specific predictions that turned out to be 100% true. This is on video. As far as Billy's predictions? Well, even a broken clock is right two times a day...
 
Never said I liked Alex Jones. I said he was the most exciting thing on shortwave radio.

You probably need to try to listen to shortwave radio to get it. Lol

Notice I said try.
Apologies sir. Hard to find his early work in full format, yeah I listened to the podcasts on early JRE days and you're right, he is very entertaining. I remember him saying how Atrazine induces complete feminization and chemical castration in male African clawed frogs. I wonder why Rogan doesn't bring him on any more.

 
Apologies sir. Hard to find his early work in full format, yeah I listened to the podcasts on early JRE days and you're right, he is very entertaining. I remember him saying how Atrazine induces complete feminization and chemical castration in male African clawed frogs. I wonder why Rogan doesn't bring him on any more.

You can buy that book on Amazon I'm pretty sure.

Yup. There are numerous retailers on Amazon with that book.
 
It's simple really. We can judge the individual by his works and in the deceased case, his legacy. And if his "works" prove to be wrong or in error, then that's a hint and a half. Alex Jones is on record making some very, very eerie and specific predictions that turned out to be 100% true. This is on video. As far as Billy's predictions? Well, even a broken clock is right two times a day...
With respect, what predictions was Bill wrong about? We can go into this in detail if that's ok with you. He covered why he didn't pay income taxes on one of his early 90s talkshows. Can find it on the HOTT page I attached
 
With respect, what predictions was Bill wrong about? We can go into this in detail if that's ok with you. He covered why he didn't pay income taxes on one of his early 90s talkshows. Can find it on the HOTT page I attached
Well one thing he said was that in the year 2000 I think it was , satellite Galieo was gonna jettison its plutonium battery into Jupiter causing it to explode, and become a second sun. All as a display of the power of secret societies. If I remember correctly. I can tell you for sure the prediction date is way past due for that. Yes Galieo did jettison it's battery I belive, but with no fanfare. Obviously.
 
Well one thing he said was that in the year 2000 I think it was , satellite Galieo was gonna jettison its plutonium battery into Jupiter causing it to explode, and become a second sun. All as a display of the power of secret societies. If I remember correctly. I can tell you for sure the prediction date is way past due for that. Yes Galieo did jettison it's battery I belive, but with no fanfare. Obviously.
"Sometime around December 1999, according to NASA's own calculations, satellite Galileo's orbit will plunge into the planet Jupiter, igniting 4x lbs of plutonium, resulting in a second Sun. Several things happened to confirm my hypothesis, after the movie 2001: a Space Odyssey there was a movie 2010 which played out this exact scenario only it was blamed upon some extraterrestrial force represented by a monolith. A black stone monolith.."

If you listen to the first 20 minutes of HoTT recording #322 he explains on how he came to that conclusion.

".. Now, I'm not sure what any of this means, I'm not sure if it will happen but I do know this, some men in this world believe that they are God and they may he playing God right this moment."

What other predictions was he wrong about?
 
"Sometime around December 1999, according to NASA's own calculations, satellite Galileo's orbit will plunge into the planet Jupiter, igniting 4x lbs of plutonium, resulting in a second Sun. Several things happened to confirm my hypothesis, after the movie 2001: a Space Odyssey there was a movie 2010 which played out this exact scenario only it was blamed upon some extraterrestrial force represented by a monolith. A black stone monolith.."

If you listen to the first 20 minutes of HoTT recording #322 he explains on how he came to that conclusion.

".. Now, I'm not sure what any of this means, I'm not sure if it will happen but I do know this, some men in this world believe that they are God and they may he playing God right this moment."

What other predictions was he wrong about?
That's the one I remember. Because I've been quoting it ever since probably. Lol there are others, but I forget what they were.
 
That's the one I remember. Because I've been quoting it ever since probably. Lol there are others, but I forget what they were.
If you remember of any others share them here good sir. And I appreciate you sharing

Here's one by ol Cooper for those who consider themselves 'communists' on this forum.

"It was their world they understood it perfectly, I doubt seriously any midevil man would have much difficulty in feeling a sense of overwhelming foreboding in the face of Soviet hammer and sickle symbol, yet most modern literate people obviously don't know a thing what that symbol actually represents except on the most profane level as the implements of the farmer and worker.. you really believe that? The sickle symbolizes Saturn also know as Kronos Saturn, or as Greeks called it Demiurges, the operating engineer of the universe as opposed to the creator of that universe, lucifer. In the reign of Saturn we see exorbitant building and modeling activities and this is reflected in the Masonic reference to their God as the big builder or Architect and their nickname, the Builders, who erected the tower of Babel. All this sounds reasonably attractive, many of us can appreciate magnificent buildings and splendid projects along those lines but as usual there is much more to it than this. This is all the exoteric interpretation underneath is the truth. How many of you drive Saturn's? How many of you drive Mazdas? How many of you know the origins of those names and what they stand for?"
 
It was clear from the start that Eric Dubay was controlled opposition and flat earth a psyop and a convenient means to discredit voices on the fringe of the far-right spectrum.
 
It was clear from the start that Eric Dubay was controlled opposition and flat earth a psyop and a convenient means to discredit voices on the fringe of the far-right spectrum.
I very much agree with that statement, similar if not the same works with chem trails vs cloud seeding, those who shout chemtrails are real looks like psyop to discredit those who spout cloud seeding (some may say I'm crazy but this one is real).

In this article BBC openly admits UAE cloud seeds the atmosphere, 'is cloud seeding real or a tinfoil hat conspiracy' 'climate change' 'cloud seeding planes were deployed on Sunday and Monday, but not on Tuesday, when the flooding occurred.'


I'm on a side quest with this post, pardon me quoting Katt, all lies will be exposed
 
I very much agree with that statement, similar if not the same works with chem trails vs cloud seeding, those who shout chemtrails are real looks like psyop to discredit those who spout cloud seeding (some may say I'm crazy but this one is real).

In this article BBC openly admits UAE cloud seeds the atmosphere, 'is cloud seeding real or a tinfoil hat conspiracy' 'climate change' 'cloud seeding planes were deployed on Sunday and Monday, but not on Tuesday, when the flooding occurred.'


I'm on a side quest with this post, pardon me quoting Katt, all lies will be exposed
To read BBC BS is a form of self-harm, MilDra. Check out Renegade Tribune:

 
To read BBC BS is a form of self-harm, MilDra. Check out Renegade Tribune:

You're right, but it wasn't aimed at you my friend, it was at those who want to discredit what I'm saying by giving them a well known source.
 
To read BBC BS is a form of self-harm, MilDra. Check out Renegade Tribune:

Since you're a big fan of Elon, sarcastically speaking, I have an interesting bit to share with you. I think it could be added to one of Cooper's predictions. Letter X with letter I inside of it it, the new Twitter logo. He was explaining the symbology inside the Luxor hotel in Vegas. An hour long if you want to listen to all of it otherwise it's at minute 49:xx to the end.

"The X in the mysteries is the symbol of man, the symbol of the illumined man an X with an I through the center of it, letter I.."

It gives a whole new meaning to the X Men movies..



didnt alex jones say something that theres gay frogs and they will make you gay? or something like that?
i forget.
and that the newtown school shooting was fake as well.
Yes sir if you scroll a little further up I attached a link to what Jones was talking about.
 
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