Dancing' star's weird, spirograph orbit proves Einstein right (1 Viewer)

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Einstein's theory of general relativity has been proven right (again!), thanks to the wobbly dance of a high-speed star swirling around the monster black hole at the center of our galaxy.

Astronomers with the European Southern Observatory (ESO) have been watching that star — named S2 — orbit our local supermassive black hole for 27 years, taking precise measurements of the star's position and velocity as it swoops around the galactic center, roughly 26,000 light-years from Earth. After watching the star complete nearly two full orbits (each complete orbit takes about 16 years), the researchers concluded that the star does not have a fixed elliptical orbit as predicted by Isaac Newton's theory of gravity, but rather "dances" around the black hole in a pattern that resembles a rosette drawn using a spirograph.

This sort of orbit, where the star's point of closest approach moves subtly around the black hole with each orbit, is known as Schwarzschild precession. This wonky sort of precession (or forward movement) was predicted by Einstein more than 100 years ago to describe the effects of an infinitesimally small object orbiting an extraordinarily massive one, the researchers wrote in their new study, published online today (April 16) in the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

Einstein's general relativity predicts that bound orbits of one object around another are not closed, as in Newtonian gravity, but precess forward in the plane of motion," study co-author Reinhard Genzel, director of the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Germany, said in a statement. "This famous effect — first seen in the orbit of the planet Mercury around the sun — was the first evidence in favor of general relativity. One hundred years later, we have now detected the same effect in the motion of a star orbiting the [black hole] at the center of the Milky Way."
This is the first time that Schwarzschild precession has been confirmed in a star orbiting a black hole, the researchers wrote in their study. The team identified the loop-de-loops of S2 after making more than 300 observations of the star using several instruments on the ESO's Very Large Telescope in Chile.

Beyond adding one more log to the proverbial fire of Einstein's legacy, the new finding could also help researchers make more exact calculations of the types and quantities of matter located at the center of the galaxy, the researchers said.

"Because the S2 measurements follow general relativity so well, we can set stringent limits on how much invisible material, such as distributed dark matter or possible smaller black holes, is present," study co-authors Guy Perrin of the Paris Observatory and Karine Perraut of France's University of Grenoble said in the statement. "This is of great interest for understanding the formation and evolution of supermassive black holes.



 

Brainfart

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What a load of crap...telescopes don't have the resolving power to see that far...
Look it up...
 

Vwj

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Hubble has seen 10-15 billion light years, and the VLT has found stuff at 13 billion light years so I’d say 26k they get a good view
 
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Brainfart

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Hubble has seen 10-15 billion light years, and the VLT has found stuff at 13 billion light years so I’d say 26k they get a good view
That's bullshit too. Look up how a telescope works before you spin that shit...lenses have to be bigger and bigger to see longer distances... That is why humans have only a short distance sight till the vanishing point. The distance between your eyes is the reckoning power of your eyes...All star distances are measured using parallax. Parallax cannot be observed in stars so that is why astronomers like Kepler had to come up with these huge distances. we are meant to be moving through space at a vast speed, yet, Tutankhamun saw the stars and constellations in the same place you do. Einstein could not even prove whether the earth moved or not with his gay theory of relativity. Look it up...even the distance to the sun could be wrong. Sun's distance was worked out using transit of Venus but viewed from earth using parallax. And distances in space are measured using this distance(astronomical unit=au).But because of a phenomena known as atmospheric lensing, the sun is not even where you see it. That is why the sun changes its size over the course of the day. The way to explain this is the way a beam of light changes it's angle through water. That is why a straw in a drink when you look at it does what it does. So the sun you look at in its position is not even in that position. So how can you use that to measure distance...instead of just regurgitating shit off the internet like you always do, try using your brain and looking at all info that is available and not just the accepted view. Cause in one hundred years from now what is looked at as right will be wrong...it has happened over and over again...
 
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Vwj

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Wow, I suppose you think the earth is flat too, and the planetary system revolves around us, but I presume you think that “that’s bullshit” out proves hundreds of years and thousands of clever peoples science and maths, cool argument from a race that fully hasn’t evolve to the modern era yet 🤦‍♂️
 

Brainfart

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Wow, I suppose you think the earth is flat too, and the planetary system revolves around us, but I presume you think that “that’s bullshit” out proves hundreds of years and thousands of clever peoples science and maths, cool argument from a race that fully hasn’t evolve to the modern era yet 🤦‍♂️
Did you even read what I wrote emoji tool...
There are plenty of scientists who are smart people who have theories and evidence contrary to the excepted view...when I was young, I was taught that people had only been in America for 3000 years. now the view is at least 30000 years...I can find thousands of scientific papers that have been peer reviewed that contradict the accepted view on just about anything...if a scientist doesn't go along with the accepted view their careers are over...
 

Brainfart

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@High-Grade disagree all you want, I just like giving you shit cause you are a total wanker...you talk on here to your root like it is face book...you are a total joke...
 

Brainfart

Don't take what I say seriously...
Wow, I suppose you think the earth is flat too, and the planetary system revolves around us, but I presume you think that “that’s bullshit” out proves hundreds of years and thousands of clever peoples science and maths, cool argument from a race that fully hasn’t evolve to the modern era yet 🤦‍♂️
Watch a doco called the principle...it says we are the centre of the universe... doesn't mean it's right either, but that goes for all the other info you seem to take as gospel...
 
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