Drones Over U.S. Gets OK by Congress.. 30,000 Of Them..

aRyan

TRUMP or BUST
Let me tell you right now, they will not be used to stop muds from invading this country via our 'border', if you can still call it that, with Mexico.

How much more before 'Joe Six Pack' and 'Sally Soccer Mom' finally wake the fuck up?

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/7/coming-to-a-sky-near-you/

By Shaun Waterman-The Washington Times Tuesday, February 7, 2012 U.S.

Look! Up in the sky! Is it a bird? Is it a plane? It’s … a drone, and it’s watching you. That’s what privacy advocates fear from a bill Congress passed this week to make it easier for the government to fly unmanned spy planes in U.S. airspace.

The FAA Reauthorization Act, which President Obama is expected to sign, also orders the Federal Aviation Administration to develop regulations for the testing and licensing of commercial drones by 2015.

Privacy advocates say the measure will lead to widespread use of drones for electronic surveillance by police agencies across the country and eventually by private companies as well.

“There are serious policy questions on the horizon about privacy and surveillance, by both government agencies and commercial entities,” said Steven Aftergood, who heads the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation also is “concerned about the implications for surveillance by government agencies,” said attorney Jennifer Lynch.

The provision in the legislation is the fruit of “a huge push by lawmakers and the defense sector to expand the use of drones” in American airspace, she added.

According to some estimates, the commercial drone market in the United States could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars once the FAA clears their use.

The agency projects that 30,000 drones could be in the nation’s skies by 2020.

The highest-profile use of drones by the United States has been in the CIA’s armed Predator-drone program, which targets al Qaeda terrorist leaders. But the vast majority of U.S. drone missions, even in war zones, are flown for surveillance. Some drones are as small as model aircraft, while others have the wingspan of a full-size jet.

In Afghanistan, the U.S. use of drone surveillance has grown so rapidly that it has created a glut of video material to be analyzed.

The legislation would order the FAA, before the end of the year, to expedite the process through which it authorizes the use of drones by federal, state and local police and other agencies. The FAA currently issues certificates, which can cover multiple flights by more than one aircraft in a particular area, on a case-by-case basis.

The Department of Homeland Security is the only federal agency to discuss openly its use of drones in domestic airspace.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection, an agency within the department, operates nine drones, variants of the CIA’s feared Predator. The aircraft, which are flown remotely by a team of 80 fully qualified pilots, are used principally for border and counternarcotics surveillance under four long-term FAA certificates.

The FAA has issued hundreds of certificates to police and other government agencies, and a handful to research institutions to allow them to fly drones of various kinds over the United States for particular missions.

The agency said it issued 313 certificates in 2011 and 295 of them were still active at the end of the year, but the FAA refuses to disclose which agencies have the certificates and what their purposes are.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation is suing the FAA to obtain records of the certifications.

“We need a list so we can ask [each agency], ‘What are your policies on drone use? How do you protect privacy? How do you ensure compliance with the Fourth Amendment?’ ” Ms. Lynch said.

“Currently, the only barrier to the routine use of drones for persistent surveillance are the procedural requirements imposed by the FAA for the issuance of certificates,” said Amie Stepanovich, national security counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a research center in Washington.

The Department of Transportation, the parent agency of the FAA, has announced plans to streamline the certification process for government drone flights this year, she said.

“We are looking at our options” to oppose that, she added.

Section 332 of the new FAA legislation also orders the agency to develop a system for licensing commercial drone flights as part of the nation’s air traffic control system by 2015.

The agency must establish six flight ranges across the country where drones can be test-flown to determine whether they are safe for travel in congested skies.

Representatives of the fast-growing unmanned aircraft systems industry say they worked hard to get the provisions into law.

“It sets deadlines for the integration of [the drones] into the national airspace,” said Gretchen West, executive vice president of the Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International, an industry group.

She said drone technology is new to the FAA.

The legislation, which provides several deadlines for the FAA to report progress to Congress, “will move the [drones] issue up their list of priorities,” Ms. West said.
 
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aRyan

aRyan

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why not have drones over america? it'd be a useful crime deterrent.

i, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
I'd rather not have unmanned drones spying on American citizens.

If they wanted to use them to help with patrolling the border, then that would be okay. To fly them around over towns/cities for who knows what kind of surveillance, no thank you.
 

noobishnubs

☼TheGoodLife☼
The NDAA Bill is even more fucked up. Now the US can legally round up, detain without trial, torture, and assassinate US citizens...people really need to open there eyes to what is happening. These drones are not for our protection. The US Government is over stepping there bounds.
 

mrln

silent ghost
as long as its for border usage only,i have no problem. even in certain areas where its a high alert for terror pressence im kinda ok with it. as long as im not harrassed when im buying my weed again i have no prob. but if i start seeing them flyn over my hood,ill buy a rifle purposley so i can shoot at it as moving target practice. or better yet use one of them red laser dots to follow it and really freak the person controlling it on the other end,out.
dont they have sattelite survelience anyway?
 
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aRyan

aRyan

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as long as its for border usage only,i have no problem. even in certain areas where its a high alert for terror pressence im kinda ok with it. as long as im not harrassed when im buying my weed again i have no prob. but if i start seeing them flyn over my hood,ill buy a rifle purposley so i can shoot at it as moving target practice. or better yet use one of them red laser dots to follow it and really freak the person controlling it on the other end,out.
dont they have sattelite survelience anyway?
As long as they aren't bothering me, I'm okay.
As long as they are only here for 'arab terrorism', I'm okay.
Now that I'm in some tiny cell in another country getting a towel pushed over my face and water poured through it, I'm not okay.
But all I was worried about was if I could still buy my weed and watch the game on TV.
 

mrln

silent ghost
As long as they aren't bothering me, I'm okay.
As long as they are only here for 'arab terrorism', I'm okay.
Now that I'm in some tiny cell in another country getting a towel pushed over my face and water poured through it, I'm not okay.
But all I was worried about was if I could still buy my weed and watch the game on TV.
listen bro. we as a people can hem and haw all we want. petition this and that. bottom like is,this fucking govt is going to do as it pleases anyway no matter what. they say what we,you,i want to hear for appeasment purposes. at the end of the day,theres really no change. its the harsh reality of it. think about it.....
 

noobishnubs

☼TheGoodLife☼
listen bro. we as a people can hem and haw all we want. petition this and that. bottom like is,this fucking govt is going to do as it pleases anyway no matter what. they say what we,you,i want to hear for appeasment purposes. at the end of the day,theres really no change. its the harsh reality of it. think about it.....
That is only because The Nation has become complacent. You see now people are starting to uprise. Research the Occupy movement. There are a lot of people who are sick of the gov shit, and who are starting to stand up...The movement is growing at a fast pace....more and more ppl are standing up. How long until you think there is enough of us to over through the corrupt elites? Its coming people, and you better be ready for it. Civil War or Civil Unrest which ever you want to call it...its coming...
 
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aRyan

aRyan

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since obama became pres,ammunition has been selling like hptcakes. yes,a revolution is comming.
Americans still have food in their fridge and a ball game to watch on their TalmudVision. No revolution yet. I think a major reason for most gun purchases is actually for self defense rather than revolution. Whites, even Whites that claim not to be racist see the changing demographics in the USA and they are getting a bit worried.

If revolution is near, it will be interesting to see how many people who have stockpiled assault rifles and the like will actually use them, and how many people will give them to the National Guard when they come knocking door to door confiscating them, saying it's 'for the homeowners safety' until the unrest eases.

Why do you think all branches of the military have been allowing more and more non-Whites in? Lowering their standards to get more non-Whites in? The Government and their Jew masters aren't stupid. They don't want a mostly White US Armed Forces.
They'd much rather have some angry people with AK's, MP5's & homemade explosives rather than have helicopter gunships launching missiles and high caliber bullets into the buildings on Madison Avenue, Hollywood, Washington DC and Manhattan while tanks surround the areas and machine gun any greasy hook nosed kike that tries to flee.
 
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