Ian Brady and Myra Hindley

During the years 1963 through 1965, a series of five abductions and murders took place in Manchester, England, with the bodies of four of the five victims being dumped on Saddleworth Moor in Lancashire. These killings became known as the Moors Murders and the killers were later found to be Ian Brady and Myra Hindley: partners in both crime and romance. The savage nature of the abuses suffered by the victims would cause Brady and Hindley to become the most hated people in Britain. It all began with the abduction, rape and murder of 16 year old Pauline Reade during July 1963. 12 year old John Kilbride was next and, in November 1963, he was kidnapped and dispatched in the same way as Reade. The murders of Keith Bennett, also 12 years old, and Leslie Downey, 10 years old, followed in quick succession. What was different about Bennett was that his body was never found. And what was different about Downey, was that the killers made an audiotape of their assault on her. This was very similar to the actions of Bernardo and Homolka thirty years later when they videotaped their torture and rape of young Leslie Mahaffy. It can only be surmised how long Brady and Hindley would have continued their grisly work if they had not been apprehended after their murder of 17 year old Edward Evans in October 1965. For reasons known only to themselves, they had asked Hindley’s brother in law, Dave Smith, to help them kill Evans. Afraid for his own life, Smith helped. Then Smith left. Then Smith went straight to the police. The police arrived early on the morning of October 7th, discovered Evans’s body and immediately took both Hindley and Brady into custody. They also discovered something else: a baggage claim ticket that led them to two suitcases stored at the Manchester Central Station luggage depot. It was their lucky day because these suitcases contained evidence - including the Downey audiotape - that linked Brady and Hindley to the murders of Kilbride and Downey.
The death penalty for murder had been abolished by the time Brady and Hindley went to trial. Under the new law, if you were found guilty, you were sentenced to life in prison and this literally meant you would spend the rest of your natural life in jail. The only way you would get out was if you were judged no longer a risk to society and released in terms of a ‘life license’ and, all things considered, it was unlikely that this would happen to the Moors Murderers. The upshot of the trial was that Brady was found guilty of all three murders while Hindley was found guilty of only the murders of Evans and Downey. Both were sentenced to life in prison. Twenty years later, in November 1986, Brady finally confessed to the murders of Reade and Bennett and he and Hindley helped the police find Reade’s body. They also tried to find Bennett’s body but had, unfortunately, forgotten exactly where they had buried him… Brady met The Teacup Poisoner, Graham Young, while they were both serving their sentences at Parkhurst Prison and they found they had in common a long standing and abiding interest in the Nazi regime. Brady was also a lifelong fan of the Marquis de Sade and it has been presumed that it was this, combined with the Germanic influence, which pushed him over the edge. He is also accredited with having a Svengali-like hold over Hindley as it later came to be believed that Hindley - a former babysitter - would never have been involved in such heinous crimes if she had not been under Brady’s influence. Hindley has passed away, dying in 2002 at the age of 60 after becoming the longest detained female prisoner in Britain. Given all the atrocious crimes that have been committed since they were jailed, Brady and Hindley no longer seem to deserve being called the “most hated couple”.

Transcript of the murder of Lesley Ann Downey (shown in the 4th picture).
It’s worth pointing out that they are urging her to put a scarf gag in her mouth, nothing sexual as many assume.
Man - This is track four.
Man - Get out of the fucking road.
Man - Get in the fucking basket.
(sound of door banging) (crackling noise) (footsteps-heavy) (steps across the room and then a recording noise followed by blowing sound into the microphone)(Footsteps)
Woman - (Voice quiet, unreadable)
(footsteps, light, walking across room; whispered conversation at the same time)
(footsteps) (speech, distant, containing word ‘upstairs’; then two footsteps)
Child - (screaming) Don’t. Mum—Ah.
Woman - (whispering) Come on.
(footsteps)
Woman - (whispering) Shut up.
Child - (pleading) Oh, please.
Child - Oh. (then faintly Help - oh.
Child - Help. (followed by gurgling noise)
Woman - Sh. Sh.
Woman - Shut up. Shut UP.
(Screams and gurgles)
Child - Oh. Oh. Oh. (child crying)
Woman - (whispering) Keep - and you’ll be all right.
Woman - (whispering) Go on.
(Quick footsteps mounting stairs, then entering room) (Child crying, muffled)
Man - (whispering) Here.
Woman - Hush, hush. Go on.
(woman speaking, unreadable) (Child crying)
Woman - You are all right. Hush, hush. Put it in your mouth - hush and shift that hand.
(child crying)
Woman- Put it in your mouth and keep it in and you’ll be all right.
Woman - Put it in, stop it.
Woman- If you don’t—shh.
(child crying)
Woman - In your mouth. Hush, hush. Shut up or I’ll forget myself and hit you one. Keep it in.
(Child whimpering)
Man - Put it in.
Woman- (Spoken quickly) Put it in.
Man - (speaks, but words unreadable except for the word ‘hand’) (footsteps)
Man - Put it in. Keep it in. Stop it now. Stop it now.
Woman - I’m only doing this and you’ll be all right.
Woman - Put it in your mouth. Put it in—in.
(further words spoken by the woman which are unreadable except for ‘put it in’)
Woman - Will you stop it, stop it.
(womans voice unreadable) (Child whimpering)
Woman - Shut—
Man - Quick. Put it in now.
(Child whimpering) (retching noise)
Man - Just put it in now, love. Put it in now.
(retching noise)
Child - (muffled) What’s this in for?
Man - Put it in.
Child - Can I just tell you summat? I must tell you summat. Please, take your hands off me a minute, please, please— Mummy—please.
Child- I can’t tell you.
(Grunting)
Child - (in quick sequence) I can’t tell you, I can’t breathe. Oh.
Child - I can’t—Dad-Will you take your hands off me?
(man whispering)
Man - No. Tell me.
Child - Please God.
Man - Tell me.
Child - I can’t while you’ve got your hands on me.
(mumbling sound)
Man - Why don’t you keep it in?
Child - Why? What are you going to do with me?
Man - I want some photographs, that’s all.
Man - Put it in.
Child - Don’t undress me, will you?
Woman - That’s right, don’t —
Child - It hurts me. I want to see Mummy, honest to God.
Man - Put it in.
Child - I’ll swear on the Bible.
Man - Put it in, and hurry up now. The quicker you do this, the quicker you’ll get home.
Child - I’ve got to go, because I’m going out with my Mamma. Leave me, please. Help me, will you?
Man - Put it in your mouth and you’ll be all right.
Child - Will you let me go when this is out?
Man - Yes. the longer it takes you to do this, the longer it takes you to get home.
Child - What are you going to do with me first?
Man - I’m going to take some photographs. Put it in your mouth.
Child - What for?
Man - Put it in your mouth. (pause) Right in.
Child - I’m not going to do owt.
Man - Put it in. If you don’t keep that hand down, I’ll slit your neck. (pause) Put it in.
Child - Won’t you let me go? Please.
Man - No, no. Put it in, stop talking.
Man - What’s your name?
Child - Lesley.
Man - Lesley what?
Child - Ann.
Man - What’s your second name?
Child - Westford. Westford.
Man - Westford?
Child - I have to get home before 8 o’clock. I got to get —(pause) Or I’ll get killed if I don’t. Honest to God.
Man - Yes.
(Quick footsteps of woman leaving room and going downstairs; then a click; then woman’s footsteps coming upstairs; then eight longer strides)
Man - What is it?
Woman - I’ve left the light on.
Man - You ‘ave?
Woman - So that — (remainder of sentence unreadable)
(Child starts crying)
Child - It hurts me neck.
Man - Hush, put it in your mouth and you’ll be all right.
Woman - Now listen, shurrup crying.
Child - (crying) It hurts on me —
Woman - (interrupting) Hush! Shut up. Now, put it in. Pull that hand away and don’t dally and just keep your mouth shut, please.
Woman - Wait a bit, I’ll put this on again. D’you get me?
Child - (whining) No, I — (remainder of sentence unreadable)
Woman - Sh. Hush. Put that in your mouth. And again, packed more solid.
(whispered sentences, unreadable)
Child - I want to go home. Honest to god. I’ll (further speech muffled but uninterrupted) — before eight o’clock.
Woman - No, it’s all right.
Man - Eh!
(Music commences, country-style tune followed by ‘Jolly St Nicholas’, during which various non-vocal noises can be heard; then tune ‘The Little Drummer Boy’ during which a voice speaks -unreadable) (Three loud cracks, systematic, even-timed) (Music- ‘The Little Drummer Boy’ — goes fainter) (Footsteps) (Sounds on tape cease)
 

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Clockwork

British Cunt.
The transcript is so chilling. I've always been very interested I'm the moors case. Best book written on it is "one of your own". Really fascinating read.
 
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DECADENCE

Guest
Yesterday there was a glimmer of hope that Ian Brady was going to reveal where Keith Bennetts body was buried in a letter he sent to a woman that was only to be opened on his death, it allegedly hinted on the front that he wanted to put young Keith Bennetts moms mind to rest, Keith's mom was suffering from cancer and sadly she lost her life today a day after the glimmer of hope came to light, RIP WINNIE JOHNSON.
The ultimate irony right there I think. :(:(:( 18/08/2012.
 

Airbornemama

Something Ironic...
Yesterday there was a glimmer of hope that Ian Brady was going to reveal where Keith Bennetts body was buried in a letter he sent to a woman that was only to be opened on his death, it allegedly hinted on the front that he wanted to put young Keith Bennetts moms mind to rest, Keith's mom was suffering from cancer and sadly she lost her life today a day after the glimmer of hope came to light, RIP WINNIE JOHNSON.
The ultimate irony right there I think. :(:(:(
Wow D, that is truly SAD!! That just break's my heart for her. Yes may she R.I.P:(
 
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DECADENCE

Guest
I saw it on the news ten minutes ago I was a little shocked to be honest, and that scumbag lives on, I hope they keep the fucker alive as long as possible it must be so degrading to be force fed.
Wow D, that is truly SAD!! That just break's my heart for her. Yes may she R.I.P:(
 

NightMare

My gift to you, a Nightmare of terror
This is one that breaks my heart. This is the first time I have ever read these transcripts, they are chilling and make my stomach turn. Poor little ones that had to endure that torture. This is one example of why I do not believe in God. People don't understand why I think this way but until you have interviewed a child who has been raped or molested, you can not know the true heart break. No god would allow this to happen to a child if he was real. Fucking old woman survives a tornado and say's "Gods hand just came down and protected me from the tornado!" Well were the fuck was he when this young child was calling his name as these freaks rape and torture her? Fuck god, fuck him and his angles. Fucking day dreams of the rich and famous!
 
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DECADENCE

Guest
I don't believe in God in the slightest either if by chance he does exist then he has a serious fucking attitude problem and a fucked up sense of humor. :suicide:
 

Carnivalee

Ass is phat. Titties, bologna.
This is one that breaks my heart. This is the first time I have ever read these transcripts, they are chilling and make my stomach turn. Poor little ones that had to endure that torture. This is one example of why I do not believe in God. People don't understand why I think this way but until you have interviewed a child who has been raped or molested, you can not know the true heart break. No god would allow this to happen to a child if he was real. Fucking old woman survives a tornado and say's "Gods hand just came down and protected me from the tornado!" Well were the fuck was he when this young child was calling his name as these freaks rape and torture her? Fuck god, fuck him and his angles. Fucking day dreams of the rich and famous!
:beer: Exactly why I will never ever believe in God. Gods Will is a disgrace.
 

blueyedevil

Lurker
This is one that breaks my heart. This is the first time I have ever read these transcripts, they are chilling and make my stomach turn. Poor little ones that had to endure that torture. This is one example of why I do not believe in God. People don't understand why I think this way but until you have interviewed a child who has been raped or molested, you can not know the true heart break. No god would allow this to happen to a child if he was real. Fucking old woman survives a tornado and say's "Gods hand just came down and protected me from the tornado!" Well were the fuck was he when this young child was calling his name as these freaks rape and torture her? Fuck god, fuck him and his angles. Fucking day dreams of the rich and famous!
The reason things like this DO happen is because there IS a God, don't you get it? If life were perfect there would be no need for faith...Jesus don't people ever think?

Furthermore IF there is God...don't you think that poor kid is better off where he(it) is rather than stuck here? People seem to forget the whole Heaven is WAY better than here type shit...THINK people.
 

NightMare

My gift to you, a Nightmare of terror
The reason things like this DO happen is because there IS a God, don't you get it? If life were perfect there would be no need for faith...Jesus don't people ever think?

Furthermore IF there is God...don't you think that poor kid is better off where he(it) is rather than stuck here? People seem to forget the whole Heaven is WAY better than here type shit...THINK people.
As I must admit I have never seen it put quite like this, but it still does not prove there is or was ever a god. God is a myth, there never has been and never will be any prof, whether it be phyisical evidence or factual evidence, he is still just a myth. I can not even entertain the idea that any god would want anything he created to suffer so much before being worthy to go to his home. Fuck that, besides that, this christian god is going the way of the old greek gods and the like. Soon he will be a myth wrote only about in books of history that children will study in the forth grade.
 

KG

stalking
The reason things like this DO happen is because there IS a God, don't you get it? If life were perfect there would be no need for faith...Jesus don't people ever think?

Furthermore IF there is God...don't you think that poor kid is better off where he(it) is rather than stuck here? People seem to forget the whole Heaven is WAY better than here type shit...THINK people.
Not wanting to turn this into a religious thing but my only question is. Why would God allow the children to suffer the way this little did? Everyone says he has powers and stuff then why does he allow the children to suffer so much?
 
Not wanting to turn this into a religious thing but my only question is. Why would God allow the children to suffer the way this little did? Everyone says he has powers and stuff then why does he allow the children to suffer so much?
Okay devils advocate defending god here LOL
If there is a god why does he/she allow this type of suffering? seems to be the universal question and pre-decided judgement for disbelief that so many people use...or paraphrased, ' You really really piss me off god so now I'm going to cancel my belief in you!"

God says Mmmkay...whatever! And means it, because god knows this, "There is only me! You are all ME being expressed as individual shards of myself! You are Me feeling and experiencing myself as an infinite number of individual manifestations of myself! You are my nerve endings! You are the entire spectrum of experience for me...Pleasure and pain! Ecstasy and suffering beyond belief! You are me being cycled around in an infinite procession of varieties! Why do I allow you to suffer and yet others to feel such rapture? Because you are me! It is me feeling all of this THROUGH YOU! Separate and yet one! The ultimate dichotomy...wrap your head gear around it! You can't know heat without knowing cold! There cannot be a perfect state of eternal bliss, for this would become an eternal state of absolute oblivion! everything requires constant flux and change....it's a universe of relativity! Your moment of terror and pain is but an almost imperceptible blip in the endlessness of your existence a bee sting in a life of great adventure! You don't end because I don't end! For every single experience, there is an equal and opposite one! You choose to feel it all! Because you have the wisdom of the one who created it all! Enjoy the wild ride! Shit gets deeper, whether you believe in it/me or not!! This is true freedom within the eternal spectrum of experience!!"

Then you go, "uh...whut?"
 

KG

stalking
Okay devils advocate defending god here LOL
If there is a god why does he/she allow this type of suffering? seems to be the universal question and pre-decided judgement for disbelief that so many people use...or paraphrased, ' You really really piss me off god so now I'm going to cancel my belief in you!"

God says Mmmkay...whatever! And means it, because god knows this, "There is only me! You are all ME being expressed as individual shards of myself! You are Me feeling and experiencing myself as an infinite number of individual manifestations of myself! You are my nerve endings! You are the entire spectrum of experience for me...Pleasure and pain! Ecstasy and suffering beyond belief! You are me being cycled around in an infinite procession of varieties! Why do I allow you to suffer and yet others to feel such rapture? Because you are me! It is me feeling all of this THROUGH YOU! Separate and yet one! The ultimate dichotomy...wrap your head gear around it! You can't know heat without knowing cold! There cannot be a perfect state of eternal bliss, for this would become an eternal state of absolute oblivion! everything requires constant flux and change....it's a universe of relativity! Your moment of terror and pain is but an almost imperceptible blip in the endlessness of your existence a bee sting in a life of great adventure! You don't end because I don't end! For every single experience, there is an equal and opposite one! You choose to feel it all! Because you have the wisdom of the one who created it all! Enjoy the wild ride! Shit gets deeper, whether you believe in it/me or not!! This is true freedom within the eternal spectrum of experience!!"

Then you go, "uh...whut?"
I never said I didn't believe. I asked why. Thank you for that though.
 
I'd like to continue with a question of my own

"If you knew you were god..and understood that in being god, you had all the qualities of god! You understood that you were endless, indestructible, infinitely creative, omniscient, badass and hardcore ! You understood this and knew it, but needed the experience of it .....in a physical form....as say, a human...and since you are infinite; as an infinite number of human experiences -would you choose a soft life? A safe life? A life that avoided all pain and danger...or being the totally indestructible badass you knew yourself to be-would you choose to experience it ALL? The maximum extremes of everything imaginable in your unlimited capacity to imagine??
 

KG

stalking
I'd like to continue with a question of my own

"If you knew you were god..and understood that in being god, you had all the qualities of god! You understood that you were endless, indestructible, infinitely creative and omniscient, badass and hardcore ! You understood this and knew it, but needed the experience of it .....in a physical form....as say, a human...and since you are infinite; as an infinite number of human experiences -would you choose a soft life? A safe life? A life that avoided all pain and danger...or being the totally indestructible badass you knew yourself to be-would you choose to experience it ALL? The maximum extremes of everything imaginable in your unlimited capacity to imagine??

I would choose to be a bad ass and take all the pain of the children so they wouldn't have to be scared and abused. I'd spare the children.
 
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