North Korea says new nuclear test will be part of fight against U.S.

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Seoul, South Korea (CNN) -- North Korea said Thursday that it plans to carry out a new nuclear test and more long-range rocket launches, all of which it said are a part of a new phase of confrontation with the United States.

The North's National Defense Commission said the moves would feed into an "upcoming all-out action" that would target the United States, "the sworn enemy of the Korean people."

Carried by the state media, the comments are the latest defiant flourish from the reclusive North Korean regime, whose young leader, Kim Jong Un, has upheld his father's policy of pursuing a military deterrent and shrugging off international pressure.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said Thursday there are no "outward indications" that North Korea is about to conduct a nuclear test, but he admitted it would be hard to determine that in advance.

"They have the capability, frankly, to conduct these tests in a way that makes it very difficult to determine whether or not they are doing it," he said in a Pentagon press conference.

"We are very concerned with North Korea's continuing provocative behavior," Panetta said, but he added that the United States is "fully prepared" to deal with any provocations.

Read more: U.N. Security Council slams North Korea, expands sanctions

North Korea's statement followed a U.N. Security Council resolution submitted by the United States and approved Tuesday that condemned a recent rocket launch by the North and expanded existing sanctions.

Pyongyang's threatening statement "should have been the expected outcome" from the U.N. decision, said Daniel Pinkston, senior analyst for the International Crisis Group covering Northeast Asia.

"I think they are completely outraged and insulted by it," he said.

North Korea's statement prompted France and Great Britain to express exasperation with the secretive regime.

Britain's mission to the United Nations called on North Korean leaders to "refrain from further provocation." France said it "deplores" North Korea's statement, telling its leaders that they need not to threaten, but instead to work toward dismantling their nuclear and missile programs.
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In addition to Panetta's statement, the United States added sanctions against more North Korean bank officials and a business linked to the regime's nuclear weapons program.

The Treasury Department announcement targets two Beijing-based representatives of Tanchon Commercial Bank and a company -- Leader (Hong Kong) International Trading Limited -- that the U.S. government says shipped machinery and equipment in support of North Korea's nuclear program.

The organizations are "part of the web of banks, front companies and government agencies that support North Korea's continued proliferation activities," said Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence David S. Cohen.

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"By continuing to expose these entities, and the individuals who assist them, we degrade North Korea's ability to use the international financial system for its illicit purposes," he said.

North Korea, which often issues bellicose statements in its state media, said Thursday that it rejects all Security Council resolutions concerning it, describing the most recent resolution as "the most dangerous phase of the hostile policy" toward it.

Read more: U.S. official: North Korea likely deceived U.S., allies before launching rocket

Analyst: Threat meant as a deterrence

The threats toward the United States, a constant theme in the North's propaganda, have more to do with deterrence than a desire for full conflict, Pinkston said.

"I don't believe they have the capability, the intention or the will to invade or destroy the United States," he said. "They wish to deter interference from the U.S. or any outside powers."

Read more: North Korea's rocket launches cost $1.3 billion

North Korea's successful rocket launch last month nonetheless changed the strategic calculations for the United States, showing that the North's missile program is advancing despite an array of heavy sanctions imposed on it.

Analysts say it still has a lot of work to do to master the technology necessary to mount a nuclear warhead on a missile or accurately target it.

At the same time, Pyongyang has been hinting for a while that a new nuclear test could be in the cards.

Read more: South Korean officials: North Korean rocket could hit U.S. mainland

Just before the North sent out its latest hostile statement Thursday, a U.S. State Department official was telling reporters in Seoul that Washington hoped Pyongyang wouldn't go ahead.

"We think that that would be a mistake, obviously," said Glyn Davies, the U.S. special envoy on North Korea. "We call on North Korea, as does the entire international community, not to engage in any further provocations."

North Korea has carried out two previous nuclear tests, in 2006 and 2009, both of which were condemned by the United Nations.

Read more: Huge crowds gather in North Korean capital to celebrate rocket launch

Pyongyang didn't say Thursday when exactly it would carry out a third test, but it could happen "at any time," according to Pinkston.

He said it is hard for anybody outside the North Korean nuclear sector to know whether the country is technically ready to carry out the test, but that politically, "it seems an appropriate time."

Demands unlikely to sway North

South Korean defense officials said last year that they believed the North was in a position to carry out a new test whenever leaders in Pyongyang gave the green light.

North Korea's nuclear program is "an element of threat to peace not only for Northeast Asia but also for the world," Park Soo-jin, deputy spokeswoman for the South Korean Unification Ministry, said Thursday.

"North Korea should immediately stop its nuclear test and other provocation and should choose a different path by cooperating with the international community," Park said.

That appears unlikely at this stage, though.

After a failed long-range rocket launch in April, North Korea ignored international condemnation and carried out a second attempt last month. That one succeeded in putting a satellite in orbit, Pyongyang's stated objective.

But the launch was widely considered to be a test of ballistic missile technology. And it remains unclear whether the satellite, which the North insists is for peaceful purposes, is functional.

Both North Korea's previous nuclear tests took place weeks or months after long-range rocket launches.

Those tests were carried out under the rule Kim Jong Il, the deceased father of the current leader, and the man who channeled huge amounts of money into North Korea's nuclear and missile development programs.

Kim Jong Il died in December 2011 after 17 years in power, during which the North Korean people became increasingly impoverished and malnourished.

Economically, the country relies heavily on trade with its major ally, China.

China, which voted in favor of the U.N. Security Council resolution this week, appealed for calm on Thursday.

Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hong Lei urged North Korea and the West to "keep calm, remain cautious and refrain from any action that might escalate the situation in the region."

The office of the South Korean president-elect, Park Geun-hye, said Friday that she would soon send a delegation to visit the United States.

"Issues of common interest will be discussed," said Yoon Chang-jung, a spokesman for Park, without specifying whether that included North Korea.

Read more: For the U.N. and North Korea: Game on
source --cnn.com

while we get a lot of shit from our goverment.. they want you to be misinformed and say they cant reach us heres the hint they slapped a satellite into space once in space they could reach any part of the u.s. so you figure it out....... kim stated to a reporter which was on fox news that he was planning to hit the continental u.s. with a nuke by the end of the year........
 
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They are balls out with hate.
no shit i never saw anyone hate on us so much even with our people going there to try and calm things down and china threatening to cut them off they still stick to there guns about nuking us... i can say one thing i admire his guts and the balls he has to put it right out there at least he aint a pussy talking out of the side of his mouth hes straight up about his plans and when he would like to do it never saw a leader being so honest about war .........

p.s. if a nuke comes do you think our goverment would warn us ??? the truth is no they wouldn't they wouldn't want to cause panic you would have no idea until you were hit .....
 

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Seems totally illogical to me for a dictatorship to focus so much on the country's defence and not on actually making the country a better place for their people. Political dissidents are put into cruel concentration camps in North Korea, and as the article noted, during Kim Jon Il's rule many became malnourished. The nuclear bomb should never have been invented.
 
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So they should work towards dismantling their nuclear and missile programs? so why don't WE lead by example and do it first?
 

aRyan

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lol at least they dont hide behind a curtain. They are balls out with hate.

So, that leaves India, Israel and UK that truly support US.

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:-_^: That same Israel that steals highly classified secrets from us and then sells them to North Korea's only powerful ally, China?

South Korea is our best ally in far East Asia.

We don't need to worry about North Korea trying to launch a nuclear attack on us anytime soon. It's all propaganda. A way to get more concessions out of everyone opposed to them. North Korea might try to flex their muscles but they aren't stupid. They might try to provoke South Korea, but they will not try to engage in any sort of war with us, especially a nuclear one.

If it was a regular war though, I think we'd all be a bit surprised at the North Koreans. A homogeneous population with an armed forces that still believes in all the things we have forgotten about since around WW2. Without our superior technology, our multicultural, feel good, occupying imperialist US Armed Forces that lets male Marines fuck each other now and allows women on the front line taking direct fire from the enemy would get sorted out in short order.

If you want to really worry about a country run by religious extremists in the highest sense, that are all raving mad and think that the rest of the world should only being their servants, that have violated UN resolution after UN resolution, a country that stole nuclear secrets and has hidden, illegal nuclear, biological & chemical weapons facilities, a country that blackmails other countries, a country that has committed more state sponsored terrorism than all other countries in the world in the last 50 years put together, then be afraid of that shitty little country Israel.

I can't wait. They take care of California for us, then we go in and bulldoze the entire country in 30 minutes or so. Win/win.
Sounds good.

Mexifornia can go. By 'the big one' on the San Andreas fault or by a giant fucking bomb. I'll be glad to see it slide off into the ocean or turn into a self illuminating parking lot.
 

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North Korea has fired a big rocket into the sky, put a satellite in orbit and then splashed the rocket into the sea. How much should I care? Not much. How much should we all care? The answer is not much.
The diet of global horror served up each day by the world's media demands we compare, reason and ration, or the collective eye will run dry of tears. North Korea's spending on rocketry is tragic for its hungry people and a nuisance for its neighbours. But it is essentially a political stunt, as pointed out this week by such sober heads as Stockholm's peace research institute. With a conventional warhead a missile might cause a big bang somewhere. A nuclear warhead is so far off as to be fanciful. It would make a terrible mess but not conquer territory. The prospect of North Korea using its missiles to topple a foreign regime is absurd.
That has not stopped the usual hysteria. North Korea "rattles Asia and the US", hollers the International Herald Tribune. Analysts declare that the rocket "could ultimately be used as a nuclear missile". Its "hidden purpose" is said to be a "nuclear warhead capable of striking the US west coast". The UN's Ban Ki-moon calls the rocket "a clear violation" of UN resolutions. Britain's William Hague "strongly condemns it", which I suppose makes him feel better.
The same response greets every new weapon announced by a proto-nuclear state. Irans ambition drives the so-called international community to distraction. Any sign of instability in the internal politics of Pakistan is received with a global shudder. A missile of any type is assumed to be a harbinger of some unique horror, like Thursday's news of the Syrian regime using "Scud-type" missiles against rebel targets.
This is mostly nonsense. David Edgerton of Imperial College London remarked (in his book The Shock of the Old) on the "paradox of lethality", with conflicts becoming less lethal even as weapons ostensibly become more so. The reason is that those on which most money is spent – hi-tech, high-profile airborne ones – are fundamentally inaccurate, and are anyway useless at taking territory. Missiles, which now include drones, seduce generals into an illusion of power, when in reality they are little more than weapons of terror. War is about holding land, not blowing up people and things.
As for nuclear weapons, Edgerton points out, they are simply too lethal to use. The craziest and most paranoid owners have not dared even to threaten them. They were no help in Vietnam or the Falklands, in Chechnya or Iraq or Afghanistan. The Chinese communists were right to call them "paper tigers", though that did not stop the Chinese army wanting them as prestige objects.
The trouble is that no one ever sold a book or won a defence contract by downplaying nuclear holocaust. The cold war was dominated by pro- and anti-nuclear hysterics, giving no purchase to anyone accusing both sides of exaggeration. Yet every discussion of nuclear proliferation is awash in such qualifiers of doom as possible, potential, escalating towards, capable of and, most seductive of all, tipping point.
Alarmism has always been the stock in trade of power. Rulers have a vested interest in heightening threats, however implausible, egged on by their armies and arms manufacturers. The cold war has thus been followed by the "war on terror", chiefly as manifest by jihadism. But jihadists, like North Koreans, pose no state threat to Europe, the US or Japan. They can only topple regimes, possibly in Egypt and Syria, by force of conventional arms. The Taliban have no need for missiles. They are defeating Nato with Kalashnikovs and mines.
An intercontinental missile can cause widespread terror, as the Iraqi Scuds did in Israel in 1991. But it is no different militarily from a suitcase or car bomb, or from the German V1s and V2s of the second world war. As for blood-curdling talk of bacteriological or chemical weapons, like nuclear ones they have curiously failed to materialise. They lack the symbolic virility, and thus the terrorist appeal, of a missile.
The greatest menace posed by terrorist regimes is not military but political. It is their effect on the psychology of victim states. Terrorism relies for its impact on the multiplier of publicity and politics. Most nations can survive physical disasters, whether from bombs or natural catastrophes. Their freedoms wane and their cultures fall apart only when their leaders lose confidence in themselves or seek strength from exaggerating a threat.
The threat of terrorism to the British lies in the overreaction to it of British governments. Each one in turn clicks up the ratchet of surveillance, intrusion and security. Each one diminishes liberty. David Cameron insists that his latest communications data bill is "vital to counter terrorism". Yet terror is mayhem. It is no threat to freedom. That threat is from counter-terror, from ministers capitulating to securocrats.
Only land armies threaten the integrity and security of states. No land army has threatened Britain since 1940. Nuclear missiles are, I am sure, nasty things but it is barely conceivable that anyone will ever explode one. Even if used, they cannot bring about the downfall of a state. The claimed "effectiveness" of the 1945 atom bombs on Japan came after a long, conventional engagement that had sapped Japan's will to fight.
More to the point, it is clear that the only practical way of halting the dribble of nuclear proliferation is by the use of force. Yet all the fantasies of neoconservatives and liberal interventionists will not bring to pass a new global "empire of freedom", least of all one in which only "we" have nuclear weapons. Smaller states such as North Korea do not seek nuclear arsenals to attack their enemies but as machismo. They are expensive toys for boys.
Those who worry about these things would do best to worry about the boys, not the toys. Sanctioning and ostracising nuclear states is so clearly counter-productive that it is astonishing people still propose it. Reducing regimes such as North Korea and Iran to penury does not make their rulers less paranoid but more so. Humiliating Pakistan with drones, or Iraq or Afghanistan with invasion, does not make them proof against extremism but the opposite. Everyone knows this. The trouble is it makes a boring story.
 
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Hezbollah!
YOU MEAN SISSYBULLA THE FAGGOTS THAT HIDE BEHIND WOMEN AND CHILDREN TO FIGHT EVEN HIDE ROCKETS IN SCHOOLS MAKING THE CHILDREN STAY WHILE THEY FIRE THE ROCKETS PATHITIC.....
 

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Hezbollah!
YOU MEAN SISSYBULLA THE FAGGOTS THAT HIDE BEHIND WOMEN AND CHILDREN TO FIGHT EVEN HIDE ROCKETS IN SCHOOLS MAKING THE CHILDREN STAY WHILE THEY FIRE THE ROCKETS PATHITIC.....
Israel murders Palestinian children on a scale that could be called genocide. It's just that since Jews stick together whether they are religious or not, and it just so happens Jews own almost all the mainstream media, and the media they don't own, they will boycott the stations and all the ads will be pulled in short order if the owners don't go along with them and their demands.

Demands like "Don't report badly on Israel. Do this and we will pull the Six Million (c) card on you. We'll shut you down and have you on Oprah in less than a month crying about how terribly sorry you are, and that sucking Abe Foxman's cock sure wasn't enough to show that you aren't really an anti-semite Nazi that want's to see Israel blown to bits."

That is why you hear Arabs = Terrorists, Jews = Innocent and inoffensive.
 
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So they should work towards dismantling their nuclear and missile programs? so why don't WE lead by example and do it first?
this i can agree with we have well over 3000 + nukes why the fuck do we need so many


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Israel murders Palestinian children on a scale that could be called genocide.

well if hamas didn't hide in schools and launch rockets from them while holding the kids in the building or using them as shields which they have been caught on tape several times doing or use them as bombs which they have maybe if they did like the jews and stuck them in shelters to protect them this wouldn't be a problem but no they use them as tools not as kids.......

Demands like "Don't report badly on Israel.
fuck them..... report the truth either way there both assholes and wrong in how they handle there shit...
 
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