The nhs.

mrln

fuck the govt...
100% keep it, I see posts from Americans saying they're in severe debt from having an accident, or people having to sell off belongings to pay for life saving medication
yes BS,thats happening here. you know what else is happening here too? hospital closures. yep,you read right! illegals go to hospitals and rack up a crazy bill and never pay it. people like myself wind up getting stuck up the ass with a higher than supposed to be bill,because they need to make up for lost revenue. and because that,people only pay so much and then stop paying. the hospital i was born in,is no longer. its closed because of this. and others in the surrounding area are under threat of that. 5usd for an asprin. ok.... how much does a bottle of asprin cost? and thats just asprin! a set of crutches are a few hundred usd. sure the insurance company pays,but n the end,were the ones who really pay. due to higher deductables and the costs of monthly payments. just some BASIC insurance can cost 700 usd a month! and thats with a 5000 usd deductable. meaning the first 5000 usd you pay for then the insurance company "takes care" of the rest. yeaok...... :rolleyes:
 

King-Rory

Forum Veteran
yes BS,thats happening here. you know what else is happening here too? hospital closures. yep,you read right! illegals go to hospitals and rack up a crazy bill and never pay it. people like myself wind up getting stuck up the ass with a higher than supposed to be bill,because they need to make up for lost revenue. and because that,people only pay so much and then stop paying. the hospital i was born in,is no longer. its closed because of this. and others in the surrounding area are under threat of that. 5usd for an asprin. ok.... how much does a bottle of asprin cost? and thats just asprin! a set of crutches are a few hundred usd. sure the insurance company pays,but n the end,were the ones who really pay. due to higher deductables and the costs of monthly payments. just some BASIC insurance can cost 700 usd a month! and thats with a 5000 usd deductable. meaning the first 5000 usd you pay for then the insurance company "takes care" of the rest. yeaok...... :rolleyes:
That really fucking sucks! Every single Country should have free basic Health and Dental care as a Human Right.
 

King-Rory

Forum Veteran
yea bro. they consider it a privledge,not a right. greedy government,bought and paid for by "big pharma"
What happens in the US if you are really ill and you have no money? are you just left to die on your own with no help from anybody?
 

mrln

fuck the govt...
What happens in the US if you are really ill and you have no money? are you just left to die on your own with no help from anybody?
they have to treat you,once you step foot into the hospital. but! they will bill you. and if you work,they will put you on a payment plan. maybe even put you into a collection agency,and ruin your credit. and again,people who go and pay,are the ones who get stuck paying the bill with higher insurance rates. its a vicious circle. im not in health care to know ALL the details,but i do know the ones who pay are the ones who get screwed!
 

Alice Ayres

Rascal Slut
yes BS,thats happening here. you know what else is happening here too? hospital closures. yep,you read right! illegals go to hospitals and rack up a crazy bill and never pay it. people like myself wind up getting stuck up the ass with a higher than supposed to be bill,because they need to make up for lost revenue. and because that,people only pay so much and then stop paying. the hospital i was born in,is no longer. its closed because of this. and others in the surrounding area are under threat of that. 5usd for an asprin. ok.... how much does a bottle of asprin cost? and thats just asprin! a set of crutches are a few hundred usd. sure the insurance company pays,but n the end,were the ones who really pay. due to higher deductables and the costs of monthly payments. just some BASIC insurance can cost 700 usd a month! and thats with a 5000 usd deductable. meaning the first 5000 usd you pay for then the insurance company "takes care" of the rest. yeaok...... :rolleyes:
understanding health insurance is exactly like learning a new complex language. i swear it's intentional. it leaves the consumer confused so they will accept whatever is dished out.

like your example, many folks believe that a $10 aspirin or $800 set of crutches is the amount insurance companies are reimbursing to the clinic/hospitals but they're not. whenever you receive services at a clinic/hospital the patient will later receive an EOB (explanation of benefits). that's where the insurance companies generate a statement and you'll see the list of services rendered with all the enormous fees.

however, that's what the clinic/hospital charges and NOT the allowable from the insurance company. therefore, a $10 aspirin is charged but the reimbursement would be $1.50. and most major medical follow medicare guidelines so reimbursement is similar.

medicare/major medical insurance is a nightmare to understand. i hate dealing with it.

edit: unnecessary services and procedures are driving up the cost of insurance, imo. that, and giving patients, as an example, DME (durable medical equipment) as a standard for an initial office visit, when they really don't need it.
 
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Yep we should keep the NHS.
Yes. But it should get rid of Health Tourism like that African woman who came here just to have her litter of niglets and then at least she did the decent thing and fucked off back to Africa after costing the UK Taxpayers so many hundreds of thousands of pounds.
^This.

You can't support the trash of Europe, Africa and the Middle East and expect not to have your taxes rise and your services fall, from welfare to healthcare, these socialist health systems we take for granted won't be able to cope eventually. If you can't hold a job down and pay taxes or be a functional member of your new home get the fuck out, end of story. There are enough of this freeloading type home grown, so we need to stop importing foreign freeloaders who breed like rabbits and contribute nothing.

I propose adding this procedure to immigration/border checks.

 

PinkEye

His Sunflower
American Here; if we had an NHS; I could have a boat or a Mercedes or a pony. I could get a boob job, but instead I pay for some shit brown whore to crawl over the border and that 4 ungrateful brown poops out of her worn out twat. She never learns English, her husband gets me hooked on heroine and those fuckers are set for life. I fucking can't. We need border control. God my brain will explode with the raging anger inside of it. I fucking can't even
 

mrln

fuck the govt...
and her husband is also working for dirt cheap for a contractor for cash, all the while taking a job from me or people like myself.
getting hooked on heroin, is on you.
 
Well.. yes, only in the case of accidents or unpreventable disease. If you make a suicide attempt and fail, you should be charged. If you have a fight, you should be charged. If you're morbidly obese despite years of your doctor telling you what to do, and no proven genetic disposition.. you should be charged. If you are on holiday, you should be charged.
Essentially unless it's truly for accidental, unforeseeable or unpreventable reasons.. or a life or death emergency, no.. we shouldn't have a free healthcare system. It's exploited massively, underfunded and barely functioning. Admittedly we do have private healthcare practitioners. However honestly I think we wetnurse our population far, far too much as it is.. if you caused your own problems knowingly and willingly (cancer through smoking for example) then fuck you, fuck you substantially and pay for your damn mistakes.
And if you're the sort to go hospital because youv grazed a knee, fuck you too. And if you go out on a Friday night, punch some shitbag in a club and then get glassed.. you know what, fuck you.. pay for your own mistakes, weak and miserable modern day brits, fuck em.
And the obese? The fucking obese? Piss off
 
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ASU-85

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Well.. yes, only in the case of accidents or unpreventable disease. If you make a suicide attempt and fail, you should be charged. If you have a fight, you should be charged. If you're morbidly obese despite years of your doctor telling you what to do, and no proven genetic disposition.. you should be charged. If you are on holiday, you should be charged.
Essentially unless it's truly for accidental, unforeseeable or unpreventable reasons.. or a life or death emergency, no.. we shouldn't have a free healthcare system. It's exploited massively, underfunded and barely functioning. Admittedly we do have private healthcare practitioners. However honestly I think we wetnurse our population far, far too much as it is.. if you caused your own problems knowingly and willingly (cancer through smoking for example) then fuck you, fuck you substantially and pay for your damn mistakes.
And if you're the sort to go hospital because youv grazed a knee, fuck you too. And if you go out on a Friday night, punch some shitbag in a club and then get glassed.. you know what, fuck you.. pay for your own mistakes, weak and miserable modern day brits, fuck em.
And the obese? The fucking obese? Piss off
Calm down dude .
 

Yabaw

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Administrator
Two things, give Scotland independence and sell them the hospitals as that’ll save a fortune, then make everybody who hasn’t been living here for 2-5 years have health insurance,


Also Jeremy hunt started to fuck up the NHS to sell to his mates and now the cunt is running for pm saying no-deal brexit is political suicide, how the fuck would anyone know that!
Couple of problems there.

1. Scottish independence (hopefully this year or next) will leave a large hole in the UK revenue as a whole.

2. Scotland and their tax contributions already paid for their hospitals so we don't have to buy shit. That shit is already ours.

3. What you gonna do when your medical insurance company denies your payment because you need to claim for a pre-existing condition? Go look at how much some of the more 'simple' treatments are gonna cost you then.
 

Yabaw

Banned
Administrator
Do you really think the greedy cunts at Westminster would give sturgeons mob the oil fields? Or let them off paying their share of the national debt?
Won't matter what Westminster want. They won't have a leg to stand on with any assets in Scottish territory. Britannia likes to think it rules the waves, but it doesn't. Why do you think Westminster fought so hard against independence last time if Scotland is really such a drain?
 
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