Serious Emotion V intelligence

[bigbopper]

Hello all, I do hope that you’re all well.
When I consider this community, I think of how each of us may view the world - I don’t mean the transient visitors who watch someone shit their spine and then never return;
I’m talking to you who are somewhat or totally resident here.

a recent conversation that I was involved in had led me to describe how emotion tends to take a back seat as intelligence increases in a person.

I would ask each of you then:

Are you an emotional person?
What causes the greatest emotional outpouring in you?
How important is it to heed your emotions over logic?

(Comedic break)
- JFK was shot by tuskon raiders; don’t believe me?
Here’s proof.

 

[Deleted User 201666]

Emotions are for the snowflakes on here buckle up or fuck off

 

[bigbopper]

Emotions are for the snowflakes on here buckle up or fuck

I wondered if you’d show up!
You sir, are a fellow British banter man?
Do contribute beyond your facade though eh?
Your input might be for the greater good.
I’ll just say - I personally love this place; logic is supreme; fuck these pussy woke-tards with a rusty pipe.

 

[Deleted User 201666]

Yorkshire born n bred old too but wise n grumpy. The policitians around the world have created woke loony left immigration problems high prices fake diseaes. And still continue. We have a Indian PM with no thought for the English people he left the d day anniversary for a TV show. No respect

 

[bigbopper]

Yorkshire born n bred old too but wise n grumpy. The policitians around the world have created woke loony left immigration problems high prices fake diseaes. And still continue. We have an Indian PM with no thought for the English people he left the d day anniversary for a TV show. No respect

Right on, man - i lament that mankind is losing honour, truth and moral justice - England is fucked, so is the world…
But I think that sharing wisdom and talking straight with each other can maybe help those who seek to find their way back to a better way of living.

Thank you also marmite, you got my respect for replying candidly 👌
- from one Englishman to another: guy Fawkes never seemed so sane before eh? (A joke)

 

[Deleted User 201666]

Enoch Powell was right shame no rivers of blood tho

 

[Flatus Tube]

We are all emotional beings, as are many other animal species. Unfortunately, societies tend to subconsciously teach certain emotions out of us. “Boys should not cry” is a classic example.

Losing touch with our emotions leads to many so called ‘mental health problems’. We do this consciously (suppression) or subconsciously (repression), the latter being more harmful as we then lose touch with our true self. We often use the term ‘recovery’ for getting better from mental illness, and to recover something is to find something that was lost.

I’m sure many of the regulars here use gore as a tool to spark and feel lost emotions again to some degree. There is a high level of past trauma, addictions and neurodivergent (ADHD, Autism etc) brain types in our members, including myself, and this leads more a more complex relationship with emotions.

For our logical human brains (frontal lobes) to function properly, we need to allow all emotions and learn to sit with them again. Negative emotions may feel uncomfortable but they are meant to be there. If we repress them we become depressed. If we deflect away from them with a behaviour or substance we risk addiction or anxiety. All emotions are normal and supposed to be there.

So it’s not a case of logic vs emotions. It should be a functional relationship between the two at all times.

 

[Russellmark11]

Hello all, I do hope that you’re all well.
When I consider this community, I think of how each of us may view the world - I don’t mean the transient visitors who watch someone shit their spine and then never return;
I’m talking to you who are somewhat or totally resident here.

a recent conversation that I was involved in had led me to describe how emotion tends to take a back seat as intelligence increases in a person.

I would ask each of you then:

Are you an emotional person?
What causes the greatest emotional outpouring in you?
How important is it to heed your emotions over logic?

(Comedic break)
- JFK was shot by tuskon raiders; don’t believe me?
Here’s proof.

Social media has been shown to inhibit a persons emotional regulation which causes mental health problems. Or maybe the mentally ill are drawn to social media. People with high intelligence are able to control negative emotions because they are able to understand when someone's negativity is directed at you, your negative reaction will be counter-productive. You are able to understand to not waste your energy unless it's for a positive experience. Like if you were able to choose between having a good day or bad day you would never choose the bad so why get involved in negative situations with people. The good thing about emotions is you decide how you are going to feel.

We are all emotional beings, as are many other animal species. Unfortunately, societies tend to subconsciously teach certain emotions out of us. “Boys should not cry” is a classic example.

Losing touch with our emotions leads to many so called ‘mental health problems’. We do this consciously (suppression) or subconsciously (repression), the latter being more harmful as we then lose touch with our true self. We often use the term ‘recovery’ for getting better from mental illness, and to recover something is to find something that was lost.

I’m sure many of the regulars here use gore as a tool to spark and feel lost emotions again to some degree. There is a high level of past trauma, addictions and neurodivergent (ADHD, Autism etc) brain types in our members, including myself, and this leads more a more complex relationship with emotions.

For our logical human brains (frontal lobes) to function properly, we need to allow all emotions and learn to sit with them again. Negative emotions may feel uncomfortable but they are meant to be there. If we repress them we become depressed. If we deflect away from them with a behaviour or substance we risk addiction or anxiety. All emotions are normal and supposed to be there.

So it’s not a case of logic vs emotions. It should be a functional relationship between the two at all times.

Society doesn't teach emotions out of people. Society teaches men to not show emotions because the showing of emotions is perceived by others as weakness. It shows that the person doesn't have self control which is a disadvantage because we live in an environment where it's survival of the fittest. The physical and mentally strong have the highest survival rate which is what is desired.

Yorkshire born n bred old too but wise n grumpy. The policitians around the world have created woke loony left immigration problems high prices fake diseaes. And still continue. We have a Indian PM with no thought for the English people he left the d day anniversary for a TV show. No respect

The politicians have only created a society that believes whatever the news tells them to believe. All of those things you mentioned have had no effect on my life at all because I'm not caught up in the narratives they are projecting.

 

[Nobbler]

I mostly show my emotions when loved ones are around me, otherwise most of the time I like to use logic, just keep calm and think logically it stops me doing stupid shit .

 

[bigbopper]

We are all emotional beings, as are many other animal species. Unfortunately, societies tend to subconsciously teach certain emotions out of us. “Boys should not cry” is a classic example.

Losing touch with our emotions leads to many so called ‘mental health problems’. We do this consciously (suppression) or subconsciously (repression), the latter being more harmful as we then lose touch with our true self. We often use the term ‘recovery’ for getting better from mental illness, and to recover something is to find something that was lost.

I’m sure many of the regulars here use gore as a tool to spark and feel lost emotions again to some degree. There is a high level of past trauma, addictions and neurodivergent (ADHD, Autism etc) brain types in our members, including myself, and this leads more a more complex relationship with emotions.

For our logical human brains (frontal lobes) to function properly, we need to allow all emotions and learn to sit with them again. Negative emotions may feel uncomfortable but they are meant to be there. If we repress them we become depressed. If we deflect away from them with a behaviour or substance we risk addiction or anxiety. All emotions are normal and supposed to be there.

So it’s not a case of logic vs emotions. It should be a functional relationship between the two at all times.

This a flawless case which you make!
I really like that.
Balance - you couldn’t be more on the money, sir!

And so then to you personally:
How do you maintain balance?
Of course you’ve identified that gore can sometimes aid in recovering that balance for the more residential members here;
What about you?

Social media has been shown to inhibit a persons emotional regulation which causes mental health problems. Or maybe the mentally ill are drawn to social media. People with high intelligence are able to control negative emotions because they are able to understand when someone's negativity is directed at you, your negative reaction will be counter-productive. You are able to understand to not waste your energy unless it's for a positive experience. Like if you were able to choose between having a good day or bad day you would never choose the bad so why get involved in negative situations with people. The good thing about emotions is you decide how you are going to feel.


Society doesn't teach emotions out of people. Society teaches men to not show emotions because the showing of emotions is perceived by others as weakness. It shows that the person doesn't have self control which is a disadvantage because we live in an environment where it's survival of the fittest. The physical and mentally strong have the highest survival rate which is what is desired.


The politicians have only created a society that believes whatever the news tells them to believe. All of those things you mentioned have had no effect on my life at all because I'm not caught up in the narratives they are projecting.

I can see that you express a very well defined theory that centres on social engineering and it’s current direction of flow (pardon the pun)
I do agree to a certain extent; the media are fucking animals, and opinion is never fact.
Thing is, I’d really rather that society didn’t get spunked up the wall - this world and the things we’ve achieved are so special; it’s just that ideologies are steering us wrong.

Put simply:
All of the west now overdoses on dirty false freedoms.

I mostly show my emotions when loved ones are around me, otherwise most of the time I like to use logic, just keep calm and think logically it stops me doing stupid shit.

Very practical, I get what you mean - like having various guards and walls
And then, letting them down relative to your relationship with the person you’re interacting with

 

[Flatus Tube]

It’s hard to put all the ways I balance my emotions in a post. I’ve thrown myself into learning about the mind and body in ways I was never taught as a doctor in order to maintain recovery from opiate addiction, over almost 4 years now.

I’ve done a lot of modern ‘spiritual’ learning and put this into daily practice. I pause myself after emotions arise and think about it after allowing myself to sit with the feeling. This allows me to feel and be comfortable with any emotion, and then engage my frontal lobe’s logical processes shortly after. As with any type of training, the benefits only come from continued effort.

Useful books for this sort of learning are The Untethered Soul by Michael A Singer, A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle and Gabor Maté’s books.

I include meditation into my day. Focusing on breathing or ‘body scanning’ meditations are great ways to reconnect with your body and the feeling of emotions. I often choose the longest queue at the supermarket so I can meditate while waiting. Or when walking my dog, direct my focus to my feet hitting the ground, or trying to find a detail in the surroundings I’ve not seen before. Making little changes like this are quite easy, rather than devoting an hour to sit cross legged.

I also ensure my brain is physically cared for to allow it to run optimally. I got diagnosed with ADHD during my recovery so see my brain like a racing car. It needs a trained driver (ie learning about it and spiritual work) and better quality fuel. So I keep fit, eat well and supplement with a few helpful vitamins and aminos to boost my brain function. I’ve been sober nearly 4 years so the only mind altering substance my brain gets is caffeine.

And being a member here helps. I get a huge amount of positivity from you lot 😂.

 

[tricksterspirit]

a lot of people get the impression emotions are for the weak. i think that's a very strange approach to it. as it has been stated here before, repressing emotions leads to mental health issues because repressing anything will only hide it from you. everyone else can see what you're repressing and it's really a huge embarrassment. you end up looking like a child, or worse - an emo teenager who thinks he is an anime protagonist.

that out of the way, i'd like to point out that emotions are also a valuable type of tool to us, as humans are social animals who use emotions to connect to one another, which is important to our well being. it's a chore, i get it. exercising is a chore too, but you do it to be healthy. or you don't, in which case you only hurt yourself...

you mentioned that "emotions take a back seat as intelligence increases in a person." the crux of the issue here is that the broad concept of "intelligence" gets boiled down to "rational thinking", which yes, is one ability we can develop, but there are many other ways to be intelligent. emotional intelligence, dexterous intelligence, social intelligence, etc. being intelligent, in the broader sense, also means learning to understand your emotions and control your reactions, it doesn't mean ignoring emotional responses completely, because they exist whether you like it or not.

 

[bigbopper]

It’s hard to put all the ways I balance my emotions in a post. I’ve thrown myself into learning about the mind and body in ways I was never taught as a doctor in order to maintain recovery from opiate addiction, over almost 4 years now.

I’ve done a lot of modern ‘spiritual’ learning and put this into daily practice. I pause myself after emotions arise and think about it after allowing myself to sit with the feeling. This allows me to feel and be comfortable with any emotion, and then engage my frontal lobe’s logical processes shortly after. As with any type of training, the benefits only come from continued effort.

Useful books for this sort of learning are The Untethered Soul by Michael A Singer, A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle and Gabor Maté’s books.

I include meditation into my day. Focusing on breathing or ‘body scanning’ meditations are great ways to reconnect with your body and the feeling of emotions. I often choose the longest queue at the supermarket so I can meditate while waiting. Or when walking my dog, direct my focus to my feet hitting the ground, or trying to find a detail in the surroundings I’ve not seen before. Making little changes like this are quite easy, rather than devoting an hour to sit cross legged.

I also ensure my brain is physically cared for to allow it to run optimally. I got diagnosed with ADHD during my recovery so see my brain like a racing car. It needs a trained driver (ie learning about it and spiritual work) and better quality fuel. So I keep fit, eat well and supplement with a few helpful vitamins and aminos to boost my brain function. I’ve been sober nearly 4 years so the only mind altering substance my brain gets is caffeine.

And being a member here helps. I get a huge amount of positivity from you lot 😂.

Max props to you for overcoming your addiction man!

You describe control over one’s emotions as the way; I do agree with this.
It’s key to feel and to process what acts as the root for said feelings.
As for spiritualism, I am 100% on the same page as you,
Call me a dirty pagan cause I have my own distilled spiritual code!
Within that code is a discipline which focuses on mediation and obtaining a balance between feelings and actions.

I’ve encountered Gabor matè before; not the other two.
Will look into them!

Man is but a machine with added systems… makes sense to want to maintain it and excel it through the years.
My mantra is that “a person is always at school as they live; individual mastery is an illusion”

Coffee is an amazing thing;
Some of the comments I see here really do make me chuckle - sometimes more than the videos themselves!

a lot of people get the impression emotions are for the weak. i think that's a very strange approach to it. as it has been stated here before, repressing emotions leads to mental health issues because repressing anything will only hide it from you. everyone else can see what you're repressing and it's really a huge embarrassment. you end up looking like a child, or worse - an emo teenager who thinks he is an anime protagonist.

that out of the way, i'd like to point out that emotions are also a valuable type of tool to us, as humans are social animals who use emotions to connect to one another, which is important to our well being. it's a chore, i get it. exercising is a chore too, but you do it to be healthy. or you don't, in which case you only hurt yourself...

you mentioned that "emotions take a back seat as intelligence increases in a person." the crux of the issue here is that the broad concept of "intelligence" gets boiled down to "rational thinking", which yes, is one ability we can develop, but there are many other ways to be intelligent. emotional intelligence, dexterous intelligence, social intelligence, etc. being intelligent, in the broader sense, also means learning to understand your emotions and control your reactions, it doesn't mean ignoring emotional responses completely, because they exist whether you like it or not.

That is an interesting way to come at it, spoken like a die-hard passion-man!
I like it… and, I agree in fact -
Regulation of the two is a key to balance and healthy mental function.
To hide or to distort is indeed to embarrass oneself - these are ILLNESSES; they need treating, not leaning into because of some retard attached ascetic.

I propose to your second point that actually this period of post-modernity which we are confronting seems to be drawing people further apart on a real social level; yes, maybe the virtual social function of society is healthy… but the emotional gap between reality and virtuality is wider than the psyche will show…
I wonder how we reconcile the two…

And yes… indeed!
We have a scope to intelligences which are nuanced and varied; I speak more to these people who are piloting mankind’s path right now,
The computing and communications industries, scientific research, medical research etc - the disciplines which advance us.

 

[Chief Queef]

You gotta be careful with emotions. They invoke the absolute worst in individuals. The proof is all over this site...

 

[bigbopper]

You gotta be careful with emotions. They invoke the absolute worst in individuals. The proof is all over this site...

On this site I tend to see banter (like the good sir; marmite, there above.)
And then actual butt hurt… though the real ones with an axe to grind tend to get booted out after a while due to their massively annoying natures.
Thank fuck this is the case, imagine if the uninitiated were to come here en mass?
Probably get this place shut down if enough of them slipped through!

I agree fully relative to real life - emotions can cause other actions to flower in a person’s mind.