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Apple and Google block apps that crowdsource ICE sightings. Some warn of chilling effects

Apple and Google blocked downloads of phone apps that flag sightings of U.S. immigration agents, just hours after the Trump administration demanded that one particularly popular iPhone app be taken down.

U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said such tracking puts Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers at risk. But users and developers of the apps say it’s their First Amendment right to capture what ICE is doing in their neighborhoods — and maintain that most users turn to these platforms in an effort to protect their own safety as President Donald Trump steps up aggressive immigration enforcement across the country.

ICEBlock, the most widely used of the ICE-tracking apps in Apple’s app store, is among the apps that have been taken down. Bondi said her office reached out to Apple on Thursday “demanding that they remove ICEBlock” and claiming that it “is designed to put ICE agents at risk just for doing their jobs.”

Apple soon complied, sending an email Thursday to the app’s creator, Joshua Aaron, that said it would block further downloads of the app because new information “provided to Apple by law enforcement” showed the app broke the app store rules.

According to the email, which Aaron shared with The Associated Press, Apple said the app violated the company’s policies “because its purpose is to provide location information about law enforcement officers that can be used to harm such officers individually or as a group.”

In a Friday interview, Aaron decried the company for bending to what he described as “an authoritarian regime.” And immigration rights advocates like Kica Matos, president of the National Immigration Law Center, added that these actions marked “a disturbing example of how tech companies are capitulating to Trump.”

“These apps are a lifeline for communities living in uncertainty and fear of when ICE might show up to tear their families apart,” Matos said in a statement. Downloads of apps like ICEBlock have surged since Trump took office for his second term earlier this year. Aaron said he launched the app in April as a way to help immigrant communities protect themselves from surprise raids or potential harassment. It had more than 1 million users, he said.

While not specifying details on the total number of platforms removed, Apple confirmed to the AP on Friday that they removed “similar apps” due to potential safety risks that were raised by law enforcement. Google followed their move, saying that several similar apps violated their policies for Android platforms.

While some advocates don’t find all of these apps particularly useful — pointing to potential misinformation and false alarms — they echoed criticism of moves to suppress them.

“What really worries me is the kind of precedent that this sets” where the government can “basically dictate what kinds of apps people have on their phones,” said civil rights attorney Alejandra Caraballo, who works at Harvard University’s Cyberlaw Clinic.

Caraballo said outside the U.S., government pressure to block apps has been “kind of a hallmark of an authoritarian regime,” such as when Chinese pressure in 2019 led Apple to remove an app that enabled Hong Kong protesters to track police.

Bondi warned over the summer against apps that allow people to communicate about the location of law enforcement officers and specifically called out ICEBlock’s Aaron.

“We are looking at him and he better watch out because that’s not a protected speech,” Bondi said in a July interview on Fox News.

Those warnings escalated last month after a gunman opened fire on an ICE facility in Dallas. Officials including FBI Director Kash Patel said the gunman had searched for apps that tracked the presence of ICE agents, though they haven’t said if he actually used one of the apps or whether any of them played a role in the attack.

Aaron said tying the gunman to the apps made little sense because the app only works if somebody else is reporting ICE activity within a 5-mile radius of another iPhone user. “You don’t need an app to know that ICE agents are at an ICE detention facility,” he said. “This is just an easy excuse for them to use their power and leverage to take down something that was exposing what they are doing — and that is the terror that they are invoking on the people of this nation every single day.”

He also said the app worked similarly to popular navigation apps like Waze, Google Maps and Apple’s own Maps app, which allow users to report police speed traps.

It’s “not illegal in any way, shape or form, nor does it dox anybody,” he said, adding that ICEBlock is similarly “an early warning system for people.”

Those who use the apps or other online methods to monitor ICE activity say most people who use them do so for their own safety or out of concern for their loved ones.

“People are extremely scared right now,” said Sherman Austin, who founded Stop ICE Raids Alert Network in February. He pointed to rising fears around racial profiling and violent arrests impacting families.

“They want to know what’s going on in their neighborhood and what’s going on in their community,” Austin said, describing people getting violently thrown to the ground by ICE agents in broad daylight.

Also known as StopICE.Net, Austin’s platform similarly uses crowdsourcing, but instead allows its users to track ICE activity more broadly online or through text alerts, without the need to download a separate app. Austin says the platform has reached more than 500,000 subscribers as of Friday.

The group has similarly criticized the Trump administration for what it says are retaliatory attacks targeting those who are exercising their First Amendment rights. Last month, the platform said it learned that the Department of Homeland Security has subpoenaed Meta for data on StopICE.Net’s Instagram account.

Austin said StopICE.Net immediately challenged the action, adding on Friday that the subpoena is now temporarily blocked and pending a hearing with a judge.

Meta declined comment Friday. DHS did not directly respond to a request for comment about the subpoena on Friday, instead directing the AP to a statement from Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin, who reiterated that “ICE tracking apps put the lives of the men and women of law enforcement in danger” and criticized media outlets for framing Apple’s “correct decision” to remove apps like ICEBlock as “caving to pressure instead of preventing further bloodshed.”

Developers like Austin, meanwhile, say removals of these apps and other federal threats should alarm everyone.

“We’re up against a regime, an administration that’s going to operate any way it wants to — and threatens whoever it wants in order to get its way, in order to control information and in order to control a narrative,” he said. “We have to challenge this and fight this any way we can.”
 
In additional to electrical engineering, I a limited background in US law (fuck it, I'm a bar exam away from being an attorney). It is totally constitutional for someone to tell others where law enforcement is operating. SCOTUS ruled a long time ago that flashing your car light to alert drivers of radar checks is protected speech. HOWever, Google and Apple know that the Trump DOJ will find a way, bless the good Lord, to put their boot up your ass so they made the right decision, in the interest of self-preservation. IMHO.
 
Only Illegals should be concerned and those who support them.

Why would any LAC download an app to track ICE?
Hey, I just copy/paste the news. I'm not here to debate it.

Here's my take: Regardless of for whom an app is designed or for what purpose it serves, this is still America and you and I should have to right to communicate between ourselves any information regarding the activities of the civil servants that work for us. ICE agents and your local law enforcement/judicial staff are no different in that their employment information is PUBLIC RECORD. From the magistrates to the clerks of court to the treasurers, to the lowly meter-maid.

This app is not much different from other apps that provide the ability to actively report DUI checkpoints, speed traps and accidents but that's not really the point. There's a much bigger picture here that some don't see: This is just another "brick in the wall" of censorship and the erosion of our constitutionally-protected rights.

What's stopping them from removing those apps I mentioned earlier that warn you of speed traps? Nothing. Yet, you have every right to know they're there.
 
Hey, I just copy/paste the news. I'm not here to debate it.

Here's my take: Regardless of for whom an app is designed or for what purpose it serves, this is still America and you and I should have to right to communicate between ourselves any information regarding the activities of the civil servants that work for us. ICE agents and your local law enforcement/judicial staff are no different in that their employment information is PUBLIC RECORD. From the magistrates to the clerks of court to the treasurers, to the lowly meter-maid.

This app is not much different from other apps that provide the ability to actively report DUI checkpoints, speed traps and accidents but that's not really the point. There's a much bigger picture here that some don't see: This is just another "brick in the wall" of censorship and the erosion of our constitutionally-protected rights.

What's stopping them from removing those apps I mentioned earlier that warn you of speed traps? Nothing. Yet, you have every right to know they're there.
What about undercover agents, do you feel the same way about them?
 
Those apps are only as good as the users. Ie waze has been missing a ton of cops sightings, bc users are not inputting it
Agreed, but I'm not concerned with the app's use or disuse or reliability or validity. What I AM concerned about is my government telling me what I can or cannot install on my own phone.
What about undercover agents, do you feel the same way about them?
Their undercover identities aren't a matter of public record to begin with. Nor should they be.
 
I download Telegram from the creator's site. The version of Telegram available in Apple's and Google's app store installs a version with access limited by the US government.
Exactly. People are generally unaware that there are all kinds of apps out there that can't be found in their digital stores. However, one does need to know how to enable the option to install apps from "unsigned sources", usually found in the developer/technician menu.

In Andoid, navigate to Settings, then About Phone, then tap repeatedly on "Software Information" until a message pops up and confirms you've enabled the developer options.
 
Hope Trump decalres the USA an empire soon, that'll be cool. This is what the money will look like, it's already being designed by the US Mint for the 250th anniversary next year, this is real btw:
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Hope Trump decalres the USA an empire soon, that'll be cool. This is what the money will look like, it's already being designed by the US Mint for the 250th anniversary next year, this is real btw:
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That's just a commemorative coin, right?
 
That's just a commemorative coin, right?
It's going to be a legal tender dollar coin. Trump will be the second living US president on a US coin since Calvin Coolidge in 1926 to celebrate the 150th aniversary. This is the precedent Trump is useing to depict his living image on a US coin - because Coolidge did it 100 years ago for the 150th Aniversary, so now Trump wants to do it too for the 250th Aniversary.
 
Apple and Google blocked downloads of phone apps that flag sightings of U.S. immigration agents, just hours after the Trump administration demanded that one particularly popular iPhone app be taken down.

U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said such tracking puts Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers at risk. But users and developers of the apps say it’s their First Amendment right to capture what ICE is doing in their neighborhoods — and maintain that most users turn to these platforms in an effort to protect their own safety as President Donald Trump steps up aggressive immigration enforcement across the country.

ICEBlock, the most widely used of the ICE-tracking apps in Apple’s app store, is among the apps that have been taken down. Bondi said her office reached out to Apple on Thursday “demanding that they remove ICEBlock” and claiming that it “is designed to put ICE agents at risk just for doing their jobs.”

Apple soon complied, sending an email Thursday to the app’s creator, Joshua Aaron, that said it would block further downloads of the app because new information “provided to Apple by law enforcement” showed the app broke the app store rules.

According to the email, which Aaron shared with The Associated Press, Apple said the app violated the company’s policies “because its purpose is to provide location information about law enforcement officers that can be used to harm such officers individually or as a group.”

In a Friday interview, Aaron decried the company for bending to what he described as “an authoritarian regime.” And immigration rights advocates like Kica Matos, president of the National Immigration Law Center, added that these actions marked “a disturbing example of how tech companies are capitulating to Trump.”

“These apps are a lifeline for communities living in uncertainty and fear of when ICE might show up to tear their families apart,” Matos said in a statement. Downloads of apps like ICEBlock have surged since Trump took office for his second term earlier this year. Aaron said he launched the app in April as a way to help immigrant communities protect themselves from surprise raids or potential harassment. It had more than 1 million users, he said.

While not specifying details on the total number of platforms removed, Apple confirmed to the AP on Friday that they removed “similar apps” due to potential safety risks that were raised by law enforcement. Google followed their move, saying that several similar apps violated their policies for Android platforms.

While some advocates don’t find all of these apps particularly useful — pointing to potential misinformation and false alarms — they echoed criticism of moves to suppress them.

“What really worries me is the kind of precedent that this sets” where the government can “basically dictate what kinds of apps people have on their phones,” said civil rights attorney Alejandra Caraballo, who works at Harvard University’s Cyberlaw Clinic.

Caraballo said outside the U.S., government pressure to block apps has been “kind of a hallmark of an authoritarian regime,” such as when Chinese pressure in 2019 led Apple to remove an app that enabled Hong Kong protesters to track police.

Bondi warned over the summer against apps that allow people to communicate about the location of law enforcement officers and specifically called out ICEBlock’s Aaron.

“We are looking at him and he better watch out because that’s not a protected speech,” Bondi said in a July interview on Fox News.

Those warnings escalated last month after a gunman opened fire on an ICE facility in Dallas. Officials including FBI Director Kash Patel said the gunman had searched for apps that tracked the presence of ICE agents, though they haven’t said if he actually used one of the apps or whether any of them played a role in the attack.

Aaron said tying the gunman to the apps made little sense because the app only works if somebody else is reporting ICE activity within a 5-mile radius of another iPhone user. “You don’t need an app to know that ICE agents are at an ICE detention facility,” he said. “This is just an easy excuse for them to use their power and leverage to take down something that was exposing what they are doing — and that is the terror that they are invoking on the people of this nation every single day.”

He also said the app worked similarly to popular navigation apps like Waze, Google Maps and Apple’s own Maps app, which allow users to report police speed traps.

It’s “not illegal in any way, shape or form, nor does it dox anybody,” he said, adding that ICEBlock is similarly “an early warning system for people.”

Those who use the apps or other online methods to monitor ICE activity say most people who use them do so for their own safety or out of concern for their loved ones.

“People are extremely scared right now,” said Sherman Austin, who founded Stop ICE Raids Alert Network in February. He pointed to rising fears around racial profiling and violent arrests impacting families.

“They want to know what’s going on in their neighborhood and what’s going on in their community,” Austin said, describing people getting violently thrown to the ground by ICE agents in broad daylight.

Also known as StopICE.Net, Austin’s platform similarly uses crowdsourcing, but instead allows its users to track ICE activity more broadly online or through text alerts, without the need to download a separate app. Austin says the platform has reached more than 500,000 subscribers as of Friday.

The group has similarly criticized the Trump administration for what it says are retaliatory attacks targeting those who are exercising their First Amendment rights. Last month, the platform said it learned that the Department of Homeland Security has subpoenaed Meta for data on StopICE.Net’s Instagram account.

Austin said StopICE.Net immediately challenged the action, adding on Friday that the subpoena is now temporarily blocked and pending a hearing with a judge.

Meta declined comment Friday. DHS did not directly respond to a request for comment about the subpoena on Friday, instead directing the AP to a statement from Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin, who reiterated that “ICE tracking apps put the lives of the men and women of law enforcement in danger” and criticized media outlets for framing Apple’s “correct decision” to remove apps like ICEBlock as “caving to pressure instead of preventing further bloodshed.”

Developers like Austin, meanwhile, say removals of these apps and other federal threats should alarm everyone.

“We’re up against a regime, an administration that’s going to operate any way it wants to — and threatens whoever it wants in order to get its way, in order to control information and in order to control a narrative,” he said. “We have to challenge this and fight this any way we can.”
Can't tell if based or cringe.

On one hand, fuck warning illegals, on the other, if I download this app and report ice everywhere I'm going in the day I'd never have to see another illegal again. And I'd false report Super Mercado and home depot all fucking day and laugh about it.
 
Who does this app serve to begin with? If there is an app that can track anybody you choose, an app where pedos can put public schools wth no securiy, an app for secret communications for gangs etc etc would you not want it to be removed ? I agree with your point of being able to choose the apps you want, want but if you go to the extreme why having laws in the first place then ? If i want to kill someone why should the government decide if I have the right or not to do this? For me it all comes down to who does it serve.
 
Tails side looks like someones wet dream. I could see the heads side being minted. I actually got some trump coins yrs ago they look prety much like that as is. Nice shiny silver but not legal tender. Just keep sake coins
 
Ok. I don't like illegals in my country and I want them all gone, HOWEVER, I also REALLY hate the idea of free speech being curbed. That's a very slippery slope. And once they take rights away, you rarely get them back. I have to support the app developers on this one, as much as that pains me.
 
Can't tell if based or cringe.

On one hand, fuck warning illegals, on the other, if I download this app and report ice everywhere I'm going in the day I'd never have to see another illegal again. And I'd false report Super Mercado and home depot all fucking day and laugh about it.
Again, you're missing the fucking point. I'm all for ridding the country of illegals. I'm not concerned about what the app does or what it's used for.

I'm concerned about the US government dictating which apps I can or can't install.

(By the way: Nobody says "based" or "cringe" anymore... Are you twelve or just pretending to be?)
 
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Who does this app serve to begin with? If there is an app that can track anybody you choose, an app where pedos can put public schools wth no securiy, an app for secret communications for gangs etc etc would you not want it to be removed ? I agree with your point of being able to choose the apps you want, want but if you go to the extreme why having laws in the first place then ? If i want to kill someone why should the government decide if I have the right or not to do this? For me it all comes down to who does it serve.
It doesn't matter who the app serves. What if this app told you which stores sold the cheapest vapes? What if the government (for their own reasons) ordered Apple and Google to remove the app from the stores? I created this thread not because I'm in support of the app or the people that want to use it. I created it because I'm 100% against the US government telling me what I can't do with my own personal property.
 
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