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DeathHand

Let It All Bleed Out
This news topic was originally posted HERE - lots of video (which I'm not posting in this thread) and discussion. Rather than clutter up a video thread I'm posting a brief story on the crash along with relevant images (non-gore) available at this time.

Dallas, Texas, USA, Nov. 12, 2022:

"A Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and crashed to the ground at the Wings Over Dallas Airshow around 1:20 p.m. Saturday, according to the FAA. Both planes were owned and operated by American Airpower Heritage Flying Museum.

A total of six people were killed, according to the Dallas County Medical Examiner. Judge Clay Jenkins tweeted that authorities will continue working on the investigation and identification of the victims.

NTSB Member, Michael Graham, confirmed that amongst those killed were five crew members and a pilot. No ground injuries were reported."

Source

Images Set 1.

1. The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress "Texas Raiders" that was struck during the air show.
Dallas Air show crash 000 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


2.
Dallas Air show crash 00 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


3.
Dallas Air show crash 0 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


4.
Dallas Air show crash 02 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


5. The Bell P-63 Kingcobra that struck the B-17. Note the call number on the rudder.
Dallas Air show crash 6 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


6. Same ^.
Dallas Air show crash 6b - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


7. Planes flying at the air show: the B-17 is the bomber plane in the foreground, the King Cobra hasn't come into view (from the right) yet.
Dallas Air show crash 11 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


8. First contact between the two planes.
Dallas Air show crash 12 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


9. Both planes destroyed on impact. The pilot of the King Cobra probably killed instantly along with any crew of the B17 who were aft of the cockpit. The pilots of the B17 were probably still alive in this shot unless they were hit by debris: the fuselage can be seen torn away just aft of the cockpit, most of the canopy still intact.
Dallas Air show crash 13 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


10.
Dallas Air show crash 14 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


11. The remaining planes in the air veer away from the explosion caused by the crash.
Dallas Air show crash 15 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


12. Those red boxes are probably the focal-point indicators on the camera's viewfinder that was used to take this photo.
Dallas Air show crash 5 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


"The B-17 was part of the collection of the Commemorative Air Force, nicknamed “Texas Raiders,” and had been hangered in Conroe, Texas near Houston. It was one of about 45 complete surviving examples of the model, only nine of which were airworthy."

The P-63 was even rarer. Some 14 examples are known to survive, four of which in the United States were airworthy, including one owned by the Commemorative Air Force."

Source

Images Set 2.

13.
Dallas Air show crash 1 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


14. Another of the fighter planes involved in the air show can be seen in upper left side as the B17 explodes on the ground.
Dallas Air show crash 2 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


15.
Dallas Air show crash 3 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


16. Wreckage of the B17 (looks like the tail section).
Dallas Air show crash 4 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


17. Wreckage of the tail section of the King Cobra (note the call # on the rudder).
Dallas Air show crash 7 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


18. Tail section of the B17.
Dallas Air show crash 8 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


18. Wreckage of the B17 - left wing, tires, propellers, and possible a panel of fuselage.
Dallas Air show crash 9 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


19. Same.
Dallas Air show crash 9a - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


20. Same.
Dallas Air show crash 9b - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


21. Same.
Dallas Air show crash 9c - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


22. Same B17 wing from forward angle.
Dallas Air show crash 10 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


23. Airport fire crews hosing down the flames of the crash.
Dallas Air show crash 16 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


24. Might be a body bag...?
Dallas Air show crash 17 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg


25. More wreckage of the B17.
Dallas Air show crash 18 - Nov 14 2022 - DH.jpg
 
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McM

ARSELING
I guess these shows are necessary to earn money to maintain the whole thing.
A real original plane in flying condition with original motors/equipment should stay inside a museum's hall in my old fuck's opinion. Keep it safe for the future.
But most flying WW2 planes I know (in Europe) are just partly original, the engines are often similar, more modern versions. Propellers and security/navigation equipment have to be state-of-the-art to get permission to fly above populated areas.
 

Trarock

Rookie
This news topic was originally posted HERE - lots of video (which I'm not posting in this thread) and discussion. Rather than clutter up a video thread I'm posting a brief story on the crash along with relevant images (non-gore) available at this time.

Dallas, Texas, USA, Nov. 12, 2022:

"A Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and crashed to the ground at the Wings Over Dallas Airshow around 1:20 p.m. Saturday, according to the FAA. Both planes were owned and operated by American Airpower Heritage Flying Museum.

A total of six people were killed, according to the Dallas County Medical Examiner. Judge Clay Jenkins tweeted that authorities will continue working on the investigation and identification of the victims.

NTSB Member, Michael Graham, confirmed that amongst those killed were five crew members and a pilot. No ground injuries were reported."

Source

Images Set 1.

1. The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress "Texas Raiders" that was struck during the air show.
View attachment 632005

2.
View attachment 632006

3.
View attachment 632007

4.
View attachment 632009

5. The Bell P-63 Kingcobra that struck the B-17. Note the call number on the rudder.
View attachment 632014

6. Same ^.
View attachment 632015

7. Planes flying at the air show: the B-17 is the bomber plane in the foreground, the King Cobra hasn't come into view (from the right) yet.
View attachment 632016

8. First contact between the two planes.
View attachment 632017

9. Both planes destroyed on impact. The pilot of the King Cobra probably killed instantly along with any crew of the B17 who were aft of the cockpit. The pilots of the B17 were probably still alive in this shot unless they were hit by debris: the fuselage can be seen torn away just aft of the cockpit, most of the canopy still intact.
View attachment 632018

10.
View attachment 632019

11. The remaining planes in the air veer away from the explosion caused by the crash.
View attachment 632020

12. Those red boxes are probably the focal-point indicators on the camera's viewfinder that was used to take this photo.
View attachment 632021

"The B-17 was part of the collection of the Commemorative Air Force, nicknamed “Texas Raiders,” and had been hangered in Conroe, Texas near Houston. It was one of about 45 complete surviving examples of the model, only nine of which were airworthy."

The P-63 was even rarer. Some 14 examples are known to survive, four of which in the United States were airworthy, including one owned by the Commemorative Air Force."

Source

Images Set 2.

13.
View attachment 632025

14. Another of the fighter planes involved in the air show can be seen in upper left side as the B17 explodes on the ground.
View attachment 632026

15.
View attachment 632027

16. Wreckage of the B17 (looks like the tail section).
View attachment 632028

17. Wreckage of the tail section of the King Cobra (note the call # on the rudder).
View attachment 632029

18. Tail section of the B17.
View attachment 632030

18. Wreckage of the B17 - left wing, tires, propellers, and possible a panel of fuselage.
View attachment 632031

19. Same.
View attachment 632032

20. Same.
View attachment 632033

21. Same.
View attachment 632034

22. Same B17 wing from forward angle.
View attachment 632035

23. Airport fire crews hosing down the flames of the crash.
View attachment 632038

24. Might be a body bag...?
View attachment 632039

25. More wreckage of the B17.
View attachment 632040
Just curious, anyone know why they keep saying, notice the number on the rudder. I kept looking for it to be a superstitious # like 666 or 131313 but it's just random #s! 🤔
 

DeathHand

Let It All Bleed Out
Just curious, anyone know why they keep saying, notice the number on the rudder. I kept looking for it to be a superstitious # like 666 or 131313 but it's just random #s! 🤔
Nothing strange, lol, just so folks can see that's it's the same as the plane that crashed :)
 

spycosis

This user was banned
That pic titled "might be a body bag." I don't think it is, if you zoom into the left side of it you can see jagged torn edges. Possibly something on the ground that was hit by the planes when they crashed.
 

Cowboy71

NewbieX
This news topic was originally posted HERE - lots of video (which I'm not posting in this thread) and discussion. Rather than clutter up a video thread I'm posting a brief story on the crash along with relevant images (non-gore) available at this time.

Dallas, Texas, USA, Nov. 12, 2022:

"A Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and crashed to the ground at the Wings Over Dallas Airshow around 1:20 p.m. Saturday, according to the FAA. Both planes were owned and operated by American Airpower Heritage Flying Museum.

A total of six people were killed, according to the Dallas County Medical Examiner. Judge Clay Jenkins tweeted that authorities will continue working on the investigation and identification of the victims.

NTSB Member, Michael Graham, confirmed that amongst those killed were five crew members and a pilot. No ground injuries were reported."

Source

Images Set 1.

1. The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress "Texas Raiders" that was struck during the air show.
View attachment 632005

2.
View attachment 632006

3.
View attachment 632007

4.
View attachment 632009

5. The Bell P-63 Kingcobra that struck the B-17. Note the call number on the rudder.
View attachment 632014

6. Same ^.
View attachment 632015

7. Planes flying at the air show: the B-17 is the bomber plane in the foreground, the King Cobra hasn't come into view (from the right) yet.
View attachment 632016

8. First contact between the two planes.
View attachment 632017

9. Both planes destroyed on impact. The pilot of the King Cobra probably killed instantly along with any crew of the B17 who were aft of the cockpit. The pilots of the B17 were probably still alive in this shot unless they were hit by debris: the fuselage can be seen torn away just aft of the cockpit, most of the canopy still intact.
View attachment 632018

10.
View attachment 632019

11. The remaining planes in the air veer away from the explosion caused by the crash.
View attachment 632020

12. Those red boxes are probably the focal-point indicators on the camera's viewfinder that was used to take this photo.
View attachment 632021

"The B-17 was part of the collection of the Commemorative Air Force, nicknamed “Texas Raiders,” and had been hangered in Conroe, Texas near Houston. It was one of about 45 complete surviving examples of the model, only nine of which were airworthy."

The P-63 was even rarer. Some 14 examples are known to survive, four of which in the United States were airworthy, including one owned by the Commemorative Air Force."

Source

Images Set 2.

13.
View attachment 632025

14. Another of the fighter planes involved in the air show can be seen in upper left side as the B17 explodes on the ground.
View attachment 632026

15.
View attachment 632027

16. Wreckage of the B17 (looks like the tail section).
View attachment 632028

17. Wreckage of the tail section of the King Cobra (note the call # on the rudder).
View attachment 632029

18. Tail section of the B17.
View attachment 632030

18. Wreckage of the B17 - left wing, tires, propellers, and possible a panel of fuselage.
View attachment 632031

19. Same.
View attachment 632032

20. Same.
View attachment 632033

21. Same.
View attachment 632034

22. Same B17 wing from forward angle.
View attachment 632035

23. Airport fire crews hosing down the flames of the crash.
View attachment 632038

24. Might be a body bag...?
View attachment 632039

25. More wreckage of the B17.
View attachment 632040
That's what happens when you let grandpas fly.
 

wiggins

Forum Veteran
Sad loss of a beautiful plane (the B-17)
There will come a time when the last one is grounded.

For my historical preservative tastes this cannot come soon enough. I despair at the risks taken everytime one of these beautiful old historically important aircraft is risked in the air. I have seen them flying when I lived near the Imperial War Museum Duxford for a couple of years when I was 16 and they make the heart beat louder.

But their rarity precludes their being used for crowd thrills.

In my opinion...
 

Ben doverr

Lurker
This news topic was originally posted HERE - lots of video (which I'm not posting in this thread) and discussion. Rather than clutter up a video thread I'm posting a brief story on the crash along with relevant images (non-gore) available at this time.

Dallas, Texas, USA, Nov. 12, 2022:

"A Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and crashed to the ground at the Wings Over Dallas Airshow around 1:20 p.m. Saturday, according to the FAA. Both planes were owned and operated by American Airpower Heritage Flying Museum.

A total of six people were killed, according to the Dallas County Medical Examiner. Judge Clay Jenkins tweeted that authorities will continue working on the investigation and identification of the victims.

NTSB Member, Michael Graham, confirmed that amongst those killed were five crew members and a pilot. No ground injuries were reported."

Source

Images Set 1.

1. The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress "Texas Raiders" that was struck during the air show.
View attachment 632005

2.
View attachment 632006

3.
View attachment 632007

4.
View attachment 632009

5. The Bell P-63 Kingcobra that struck the B-17. Note the call number on the rudder.
View attachment 632014

6. Same ^.
View attachment 632015

7. Planes flying at the air show: the B-17 is the bomber plane in the foreground, the King Cobra hasn't come into view (from the right) yet.
View attachment 632016

8. First contact between the two planes.
View attachment 632017

9. Both planes destroyed on impact. The pilot of the King Cobra probably killed instantly along with any crew of the B17 who were aft of the cockpit. The pilots of the B17 were probably still alive in this shot unless they were hit by debris: the fuselage can be seen torn away just aft of the cockpit, most of the canopy still intact.
View attachment 632018

10.
View attachment 632019

11. The remaining planes in the air veer away from the explosion caused by the crash.
View attachment 632020

12. Those red boxes are probably the focal-point indicators on the camera's viewfinder that was used to take this photo.
View attachment 632021

"The B-17 was part of the collection of the Commemorative Air Force, nicknamed “Texas Raiders,” and had been hangered in Conroe, Texas near Houston. It was one of about 45 complete surviving examples of the model, only nine of which were airworthy."

The P-63 was even rarer. Some 14 examples are known to survive, four of which in the United States were airworthy, including one owned by the Commemorative Air Force."

Source

Images Set 2.

13.
View attachment 632025

14. Another of the fighter planes involved in the air show can be seen in upper left side as the B17 explodes on the ground.
View attachment 632026

15.
View attachment 632027

16. Wreckage of the B17 (looks like the tail section).
View attachment 632028

17. Wreckage of the tail section of the King Cobra (note the call # on the rudder).
View attachment 632029

18. Tail section of the B17.
View attachment 632030

18. Wreckage of the B17 - left wing, tires, propellers, and possible a panel of fuselage.
View attachment 632031

19. Same.
View attachment 632032

20. Same.
View attachment 632033

21. Same.
View attachment 632034

22. Same B17 wing from forward angle.
View attachment 632035

23. Airport fire crews hosing down the flames of the crash.
View attachment 632038

24. Might be a body bag...?
View attachment 632039

25. More wreckage of the B17.
View attachment 632040
Damg
 

ShartCart

Crusty piss fenders
This user was banned
If you zoom in on picture #9 and look just to the left and aft of the windscreen, you can see the flight engineers arm reaching upward to brace himself…
 

happy-golucky

White is right. Keep the white race pure🫡
It’s funny how people expect us to feel sorry when the “professional” was too retarted to complete the stunt
 
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