FYI, fossil fuel is a LIE!

[john5]

yo dude,i saw mommy kissing santa clause underneath the mistletoe. plus every christmas eve theres a santa tacker. so dont gimme any shit.
and yes the tooth fairy always left me a few coins under my pillow. and i grew up poor. so explain that one!
stop lying.

Not all tooth fairies are equal, obviously. And Santa needs some reward for working hard, must be hard going up and down chimnies all night, so a kiss from Mam is fair.

 

[Joker1981]

You didn't understand my point. Read it again. (Also, I'd advise you to not understand it. This'll go on forever and you won't get past this point, just like the OP.)

To be clear, in your understanding remains of carbon based biological life can be the only source of carbon compounds which can be turned into long chained hydrocarbons, in the Earth's mantel?
And if so, then there is no point in further discussing this matter between us!

 

[DrGoodEvil]

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Now, with the Thunderstorm Generator, they've gotta a lock on the next couple centuries. The Generator makes the only thing to come out of your exhaust pipe be PURE OXYGEN! FUCKIN BUMMER IMO. I WAS HOPING TO SEE THEIR DEMISE AND GREAT ENERGY CREATIONS that had nothing to do with oil or petroleum.

 

[Deleted member 42069lol]

To be clear, in your understanding remains of carbon based biological life can be the only source of carbon compounds which can be turned into long chained hydrocarbons, in the Earth's mantel?
And if so, then there is no point in further discussing this matter between us!

Your question is defective, and you're still evading my main argument. But here's a little FYI:

The current scientific consensus is that an overwhelming amount of the crude oil we have comes from biological sources in the crust (not the mantle).

The abiogenic theory is a minority view. It says some hydrocarbons can form in the earth's mantle. But the mantle's a lot hotter and the pressure is enormous. Most of the hydrocarbons that do form are methane and maybe ethane, a bit of propane. The mantle simply doesn't have the conditions to allow the formation of much longer hydrocarbons, like 8 carbon atoms long found in crude oil.

The contribution of abiogenic sources to the global hydrocarbon reserve is negligible.

But that's not the issue. And I've said this multiple times here (and it's getting slightly annoying now as you folks seem to ignore it) that if you want your theory to be the right one, you'll have to falsify the established, dominant theory. Show that it doesn't explain everything, it's philosophically erroneous, etc. Then, you'll have to propose your own theory that outperforms the current science. Do that, and the entire scientific community will agree with you.

 

[Htos1av]

Just so we're clear:
Since we know that the Titan moon of Saturn has essentially flowing rivers and rains, and lakes, of what is essentially Zippo lighter fluid (methanated hydrocarbons) and Everclear (>190 proof ethanol), just what types of sub-zero dinosaurs and plants OBVIOUSLY created all that?
Oh, I'll be here ALL year....

 

[Deleted member 42069lol]

Just so we're clear:
Since we know that the Titan moon of Saturn has essentially flowing rivers and rains, and lakes, of what is essentially Zippo lighter fluid (methanated hydrocarbons) and Everclear (>190 proof ethanol), just what types of sub-zero dinosaurs and plants OBVIOUSLY created all that?
Oh, I'll be here ALL year....

The analogy is false. Titan and Earth are two very different astronomical bodies with their own unique geological history (this needn't pointed out). Also, titan has lower molecular weight hydrocarbons, not the long chain ones found in our crude oil. You apparently didn't read the message I posted above yours.

 

[Joker1981]

Your question is defective, and you're still evading my main argument. But here's a little FYI:

The current scientific consensus is that an overwhelming amount of the crude oil we have comes from biological sources in the crust (not the mantle).

The abiogenic theory is a minority view. It says some hydrocarbons can form in the earth's mantle. But the mantle's a lot hotter and the pressure is enormous. Most of the hydrocarbons that do form are methane and maybe ethane, a bit of propane. The mantle simply doesn't have the conditions to allow the formation of much longer hydrocarbons, like 8 carbon atoms long found in crude oil.

The contribution of abiogenic sources to the global hydrocarbon reserve is negligible.

But that's not the issue. And I've said this multiple times here (and it's getting slightly annoying now as you folks seem to ignore it) that if you want your theory to be the right one, you'll have to falsify the established, dominant theory. Show that it doesn't explain everything, it's philosophically erroneous, etc. Then, you'll have to propose your own theory that outperforms the current science. Do that, and the entire scientific community will agree with you.

The abiogenic origin of crude oil is a minority view, but it is a view worth delving into.
Read this article: Hydrocarbons in the deep earth

 

[Joker1981]

The analogy is false. Titan and Earth are two very different astronomical bodies with their own unique geological history (this needn't pointed out). Also, titan has lower molecular weight hydrocarbons, not the long chain ones found in our crude oil. You apparently didn't read the message I posted above yours.

Yes, their geological history differ, but the physics in our part of the Universe remains the same!

 

[Deleted member 42069lol]

Yes, their geological history differ, but the physics in our part of the Universe remains the same!

 

[Deleted member 42069lol]

The abiogenic origin of crude oil is a minority view, but it is a view worth delving into.
Read this article: Hydrocarbons in the deep earth

From  the article you linked:

Geologists and geochemists believe that nearly all (more than 99 percent) of the hydrocarbons in commercially produced crude oil and natural gas are formed by the decomposition of the remains of living organisms, which were buried under layers of sediments in the Earth's crust, a region approximately 5-10 miles below the Earth's surface.
But hydrocarbons of purely chemical deep crustal or mantle origin (abiogenic) could occur in some geologic settings, such as rifts or subduction zones said Galli, a senior author on the study.

"Our simulation study shows that methane molecules fuse to form larger hydrocarbon molecules when exposed to the very high temperatures and pressures of the Earth's upper mantle," Galli said. "We don't say that higher hydrocarbons actually occur under the realistic 'dirty' Earth mantle conditions, but we say that the pressures and temperatures alone are right for it to happen."

The research does not address whether hydrocarbons formed deep in the Earth could migrate closer to the surface and contribute to oil or gas deposits.

 

[diagnosticguy]

Chemically, petroleum is not like water. It's a mixture of hydrocarbons.

And yes it is a "fossil fuel", but that doesn't mean it came from the bones of the T rex. In fact, most of the crude oil we extract today comes from oceanic microbes that over millions of years got deposited deep in the earth's crust.

incorrect, crude oil is water and various carbons cooked in the depths of the earth that, over time, percolates to the surface,its so funny, no one ever seems to notice that crude oil varies from thick black sludge to light and transparent (or different color) oil that sometimes smells like paint thinner

 

[Joker1981]

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Do not hurt your pritty head, on my behalf, my lady!

 

[Deleted member 42069lol]

incorrect, crude oil is water and various carbons cooked in the depths of the earth that, over time, percolates to the surface,its so funny, no one ever seems to notice that crude oil varies from thick black sludge to light and transparent (or different color) oil that sometimes smells like paint thinner

Wow, that's genius

 

[Lovinight]

The abiogenic origin of crude oil is a minority view, but it is a view worth delving into.
Read this article: Hydrocarbons in the deep earth

A minority view might only be due to the lack of funding backing the spread of the information, or it may just appear minority, due to the over funding the spread of the opposing theory (the mainstream one).

 

[Lovinight]

Maybe I should look at who is funding which studies?

 

[MuslimHater]

Chemically, petroleum is not like water. It's a mixture of hydrocarbons.

And yes it is a "fossil fuel", but that doesn't mean it came from the bones of the T rex. In fact, most of the crude oil we extract today comes from oceanic microbes that over millions of years got deposited deep in the earth's crust.

My god you're one BORING cunt.....this is a gore site, think you've stumbled into the wrong arena "Ross Geller"

 

[Deleted member 42069lol]

My god you're one BORING cunt.....this is a gore site, think you've stumbled into the wrong arena "Ross Geller"

This is a discussion forum, blockhead.

 

[MuslimHater]

This is a discussion forum, blockhead.

Shut it Fannybawz!
Ohhh how the level of intellectual glitterati has fallen off a cliff!
YOU'RE STILL A BORING CUNT!