Serious How important is the right to "Free Speech" in a modern society?

[Bad Hippo]

If you can, I suggest you watch this short clip of British actor, Rowan Atkinson, proclaiming his support for the right to have Free Speech, during a debate on reforming a British law designed to stifle Free Speech, and criminalise those who insult others.



Listen to his points carefully, and then answer this question:

 

[Fry_Swatter]

...Free Speech is NON NEGOTIABLE...

...Just like the 2nd...

...I reserve the right to shoot trespassers then have the freedom of speech to tell them WHY they are going to bleed out...

 

[Bruno Schulz]

"Free speech" is always limited in that we cannot say things that will endanger the welfare of another (e.g., Yelling "fire" in a crowded building, or making direct physical/terroristic threats to another). However, I think the semantic difficulties arise when people either mistakenly or intentionally conflate imminent physical danger with perceived danger (e.g., "harming" another's mental health by hurting their feelings with words like "Faggot"). I'm drawing that distinction here because I think it is lost on a lot of people; and I think it is almost certainly overlooked by overly-sensitive people who have not yet learned that hard distinction in real life through a verifiable ass-kicking. (Seriously, I'll choose a biting insult over an ass-kicking any day.) The blurring of this distinction has not only led to a slippery slope undergirding widespread social understanding of potentially injurious language (e.g. "Fire!" vs. "Faggot!"), but also blinds the younger generation to this semantic distinction as well for having been socialized in the current PC zeitgeist. [I hope this is intelligible - I wrote it quickly.]

My take: fuck people's feelings.......most of the time. For the sake of propriety in certain social situations, it serves us well to heed the feelings of others; but other situations exist in which hard truths and dissenting opinions are called for. The human social world will likely be doomed if ever there arises a true homogenization of thought, opinion, and belief.

 

[Bad Hippo]

"Free speech" is always limited in that we cannot say things that will endanger the welfare of another (e.g., Yelling "fire" in a crowded building, or making direct physical/terroristic threats to another). However, I think the semantic difficulties arise when people either mistakenly or intentionally conflate imminent physical danger with perceived danger (e.g., "harming" another's mental health by hurting their feelings with words like "Faggot"). I'm drawing that distinction here because I think it is lost on a lot of people; and I think it is almost certainly overlooked by overly-sensitive people who have not yet learned that hard distinction in real life through a verifiable ass-kicking. (Seriously, I'll choose a biting insult over an ass-kicking any day.) The blurring of this distinction has not only led to a slippery slope undergirding widespread social understanding of potentially injurious language (e.g. "Fire!" vs. "Faggot!"), but also blinds the younger generation to this semantic distinction as well for having been socialized in the current PC zeitgeist. [I hope this is intelligible - I wrote it quickly.]

My take: fuck people's feelings.......most of the time. For the sake of propriety in certain social situations, it serves us well to heed the feelings of others; but other situations exist in which hard truths and dissenting opinions are called for. The human social world will likely be doomed if ever there arises a true homogenization of thought, opinion, and belief.

So.... that's Option 2 for you, yes?

 

[Fäthër Cörpsë]

Ppl should say what they mean, and mean what they say. Talking out the side of their mouthes is beta.

 

[Bad Hippo]

Ppl should say what they mean, and mean what they say. Talking out the side of their mouthes is beta.

But talking out their arses is fair game?

 

[Bruno Schulz]

So.... that's Option 2 for you, yes?

Censorship bad; free speech good. 😔

 

[Dark_Voyeur]

Nobody wanted to vote to limit free speech ?

Loving me some Gg right now.

 

[RebelFX]

But talking out their arses is fair game?

No need to bring politicians into this

I only support free speech when it aligns with my beliefs.

 

[AmericanNtionalist]

Boy. You stupid-assed Europeons sure were quick to give up your civil liberties in exchange for a few welfare programs. Feel stupid yet?



Probably not.

 

[M4Operator101]

Boy. You stupid-assed Europeons sure were quick to give up your civil liberties in exchange for a few welfare programs. Feel stupid yet?



Probably not.

Most of us were born into it retard

 

[AmericanNtionalist]

Most of us were born into it retard

And brag to us how much better your little piss-ant countries are than ours because of your shitty welfare programs. Of course the only reason they exist is because you shitheads skip out on your defense budgets,and expect the US to do your bidding.

 

[Fäthër Cörpsë]

But talking out their arses is fair game?

Everyone talks out their ass

 

[Sauerkraut]

“Freedom of speech,
Is a muddafuckin bullshit,
say the wrong thing,
They’ll lock yo ass up quick!”
—Ice T

 

[M4Operator101]

And brag to us how much better your little piss-ant countries are than ours because of your shitty welfare programs. Of course the only reason they exist is because you shitheads skip out on your defense budgets,and expect the US to do your bidding.

I don't like my government and i don't like the us government as well. Don't confuse me with some meat riding, bootlicking pansy

 

[Bruno Schulz]

Read a good quote yesterday relative to this topic:
"I was brought up to believe that you should never give offence if you can avoid it; the new culture tells us that you should always take offence if you can." The taking of offence is often used as a kind of emotional blackmail, cowing kind-hearted opposition into silence.

 

[mrln]

i feel you can say whatever you like to whom ever you want to, or where ever you want. but be aware of being punched in the gob or slapped across the ear because of this. but as Bruno Puts Jones said,not yelling fire on a plane or in a crowded public place. there is also something called "discretion" and one should know when to use it. in other words,use common sense. theres also something called slander. be mindful of that as well. but i feel if you want to say something,then say it. this shouldnt be made to be limited speech because someone didnt like what you said or to avoid hurting someones feelings either. because fuck them too. theres enough kevins/karens in society as it is now. we dont need to add to it.
dont get upset when someone calls you an asshole. let it slide off your back! im called one almost every day. (and being called asshole is put lightly!)
i work in heavy construction. and sometimes we cause traffic because we need to divert the driving lanes from 3 to 2 and it causes traffic. but you want the bridge fixed/built,dont ya? just be patient. we're working as fast as we can. so no need to drive by and call me/us a fucking asshole or motherfuckers because you sat in slow moving traffic for a few mins. or throw something at us....

also if you dont say whats on your mind,it will create more tension between the parties. even cause resentment. say what you want to say and get on with things. i mean,people will walk around less angry once they get things "off their chest". problems and issues can also be resolved just the same.
because if not theres going to be more people walking around with anxiety or depressed. and before you know it,its going to be one giant shit eating society!

 

[SPHINCTERPUNCH]

If you can, I suggest you watch this short clip of British actor, Rowan Atkinson, proclaiming his support for the right to have Free Speech, during a debate on reforming a British law designed to stifle Free Speech, and criminalise those who insult others.



Listen to his points carefully, and then answer this question:

🤘🤟🤙...SP