Serious I’m Against The Death Penalty. If You Are For It, Why Am I Wrong?

[Christopher Hitchens]

I’m from the USA and come from that perspective just fyi . I am against the death penalty for the following reasons:

A. It doesn’t deter, like its supporters sometimes say it does. States that execute more have higher murder rates. Also a lot of murder is passion or hatred based and the person isn’t think rationally about punishment they are just so in the moment. Or they are one of these psychopath husbands who kill there wives and think they are so smart they are never going to get caught. Deterrence doesn’t work if they don’t think they are gonna get caught is my point.

B. It doesn’t make the public any more safe. With life in prison they are still separated from the public. Public safety should be one of the main goals of the justices system and killing the perp doesn’t do that.

C. The only purpose it seems to serve is as a blood sacrifice. A revenge killing for that illusory thing called “closure”, that doesn’t come. If someone you love is murdered and horrible things done to them before their death. I don’t believe there is closure for something like that. If you love that person that wound will always be there. Death will be the closure for someone who has experience loss like that.

I don’t think a blood sacrifice is a sufficient reason for killing someone. We as a society, our justice system, should be better than that. Btw I’d feel the same if it was my mom or brother killed. I would of course have violent anger towards them and want to kill them and hurt them. But just because I feel something doesn’t mean I have to give into it. I would tell the prosecutor I don’t want the person excused. If you can’t stick to your principles when it’s extremely hard to, they arent really principles are they.

D. I should have done this reason first, because I think it is the most important. We have executed innocent people. People who were murdered by the state, by us, done in our name, killed and later found to be not guilty. You paid to have innocent people killed. This is outrageous and it totally negates any “justice” done by executing horrifically guilt men. Eliminating the death penalty eliminates the possibility of this outrageous injustice occurring.

E. This is my last reason, I think, unless something somebody says spurs me. Because of how long it takes and how the person that’s condemned, rightly so, has due process and a right to appeal. That it costs the state, costs the taxpayer, costs you and me, more in the long run to execute the person than just giving him life in prison with no parole. So the economics, which is secondary to me than the ethics and justice, favors the abolishment of this human sacrifice practice.

So those are my reasons my little pretties. What am I wrong? Why do you disagree? What do you think I’m missing? Why should it be legal? Fire away.

OR, Do you agree and do you have more reason to add to my list. I’d love to hear them too.

 

[lovestruck]

You kill people to get rid of them

 

[igotyour40acres]

The death penalty DOES deter IF it's done PUBLICLY.
Also, people that are sentenced to death aren't regular thugs, THEY DID SOME FUCKED UP SHIT, you don't want those fuckers released after they've had time to contemplate their next, even worse crime.

 

[ZeroK]

I'm for it. If I was a criminal sentenced to life in prison instead of death I would still get enjoyment out of living by reading, watching sports, witnessing historic events as they occur and following space exploration.

I shouldn't have that right. Criminals don't want to be put to death which is why they fight it. Their last possession is their life, it should be taken away from them

 

[WatchingDemise]

I prefer the concept of slow death by medical research; You see, medical research on rats, pigs or primates wastes too much time and resources.

 

[(G.O.A.T.) Tubemonkey]

I doubt I'm alone in my support of giving the death penalty to the op

 

[GuanoLoco]

Carlie Brucia... Say her name!

I will never forget this case!! Carlie Jane Brucia was horrifically Raped and Murdered by Joseph P. Smith after being kidnapped from a car wash near her home in Sarasota, Florida on February 1, 2004 which was caught on surveillance camera video. Smith had a long list of prior arrests for drug-related charges and one for kidnapping and false imprisonment...

Research the case for yourself. Once you do, there will be no way you can tell me that capitol punishment is not justified for these sick bastards!!!

 

[Str8shooter]

I am unequivocally for the death penalty. And if given the opportunity, I would have zero qualms about pulling the switch myself. I'm not going to debate it with you, OP. When you have not just seen but experienced some of the twisted shit in this world first hand, OP, you might change your mind. Me? I will never change mine.

 

[Str8shooter]

Carlie Brucia... Say her name!

I will never forget this case!! Carlie Jane Brucia was horrifically Raped and Murdered by Joseph P. Smith after being kidnapped from a car wash near her home in Sarasota, Florida on February 1, 2004 which was caught on surveillance camera video. Smith had a long list of prior arrests for drug-related charges and one for kidnapping and false imprisonment...

Research the case for yourself. Once you do, there will be no way you can tell me that capitol punishment is not justified for these sick bastards!!!

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Richard Allen Davis and Polly Klaas is another one. FUCK HIM!!!!

 

[Jay the Butcher]

Victims didn't get choice or a trial.

 

[Griffon56]

We are all going to die at some point, so a criminal sentenced to death gets to go to the front of the line. Why keep them alive if there is zero chance of getting out?

 

[BeHappy⚕️]

Basically point D, we execute innocents which shouldn't be.

But also... I always feel like the death penalty is getting off too easily, same with mass shooters who off themselves
I'd rather people who commit heinous acts have to actually suffer for a long time. Prison should be there as a fitting punishment, when people say "they took the cowards way out" why save them the job of even having to do it themselves. But them in a rough prison and have them live it out.

 

[Dr Deacon]

You're wrong because...
1 - Those criminals are a drain on public funds
2 - You cannot, CANNOT, rehabilitate a paedophile - ever.
3 - I firmly believe in an eye for an eye.
4 - You and your degenerate liberal ilk are the reason why offenders are allowed to serve a sentence and then get released, only to kill and rape again.
5 - End of discussion; I will also not be debating any of the above points with you as we have nothing in common.

 

[Choppy]

Anyone that takes someone’s life should automatically get theirs taken. You’re wrong because you’re a fucking idiot. That’s it. That’s all.

 

[Sabu]

I’m from the USA and come from that perspective just fyi . I am against the death penalty for the following reasons:

A. It doesn’t deter, like its supporters sometimes say it does. States that execute more have higher murder rates. Also a lot of murder is passion or hatred based and the person isn’t think rationally about punishment they are just so in the moment. Or they are one of these psychopath husbands who kill there wives and think they are so smart they are never going to get caught. Deterrence doesn’t work if they don’t think they are gonna get caught is my point.

B. It doesn’t make the public any more safe. With life in prison they are still separated from the public. Public safety should be one of the main goals of the justices system and killing the perp doesn’t do that.

C. The only purpose it seems to serve is as a blood sacrifice. A revenge killing for that illusory thing called “closure”, that doesn’t come. If someone you love is murdered and horrible things done to them before their death. I don’t believe there is closure for something like that. If you love that person that wound will always be there. Death will be the closure for someone who has experience loss like that.

I don’t think a blood sacrifice is a sufficient reason for killing someone. We as a society, our justice system, should be better than that. Btw I’d feel the same if it was my mom or brother killed. I would of course have violent anger towards them and want to kill them and hurt them. But just because I feel something doesn’t mean I have to give into it. I would tell the prosecutor I don’t want the person excused. If you can’t stick to your principles when it’s extremely hard to, they arent really principles are they.

D. I should have done this reason first, because I think it is the most important. We have executed innocent people. People who were murdered by the state, by us, done in our name, killed and later found to be not guilty. You paid to have innocent people killed. This is outrageous and it totally negates any “justice” done by executing horrifically guilt men. Eliminating the death penalty eliminates the possibility of this outrageous injustice occurring.

E. This is my last reason, I think, unless something somebody says spurs me. Because of how long it takes and how the person that’s condemned, rightly so, has due process and a right to appeal. That it costs the state, costs the taxpayer, costs you and me, more in the long run to execute the person than just giving him life in prison with no parole. So the economics, which is secondary to me than the ethics and justice, favors the abolishment of this human sacrifice practice.

So those are my reasons my little pretties. What am I wrong? Why do you disagree? What do you think I’m missing? Why should it be legal? Fire away.

OR, Do you agree and do you have more reason to add to my list. I’d love to hear them too.

Jesus H Christ. You're beyond fucking stupid Christopher Bitchens. You should get the death penalty for us having to read your nonsense you constantly post. So your progressive woke, liberal ass thinks someone that rapes kids or tortures a person should get to lead their life in jail rather than be wiped away? Let's let our tax dollars keep em alive right you woke faggot? I know you don't pay taxes so that doesn't apply to you. You're trully a mentally challenged shitstain if you're against useless scum being executed via the death penalty.

 

[Norme DePlume]

I once supported the death penalty but have since changed my stance after careful reflection. Below are my primary reasons for opposing it:

A. Irreversibility of Errors: The justice system is fallible. Advances in forensic techniques, such as DNA analysis, have exonerated thousands of wrongfully convicted individuals worldwide, including many who were executed. If an innocent person is imprisoned, they can be released and compensated, but if they are executed, no remedy exists. What can you do? Reinterring them in a "nicer grave" cannot undo the injustice.

B. Incentive for Escalating Crimes: The death penalty can create perverse incentives for criminals. When certain crimes carry a mandatory death sentence, perpetrators may feel they have nothing to lose, increasing the likelihood of further violence. For instance, a pedophile facing mandatory execution for raping a child might kill their victim to eliminate a witness, as the penalty remains the same. Similarly, a bank robber who kills a guard during a heist might murder additional witnesses to avoid identification, knowing the punishment cannot escalate further.

C. Lack of Deterrence: The death penalty does not effectively deter crime. Many murders are impulsive, driven by mental illness or overwhelming emotion, rendering the threat of future execution irrelevant. In premeditated cases such as a spouse killing for financial gain to prevent a divorce settlement or a drug dealer eliminating rivals, perpetrators act under the assumption they won’t be caught. If they believed detection was likely, they wouldn’t commit the crime in the first place.

D. Moral Inconsistency: If murder is inherently wrong, then how can the state justify executing a person, even for heinous crimes? For Christians, Jesus’ teachings emphasize forgiveness, as exemplified by his mercy toward his persecutors on the cross. For humanists, who champion the sanctity of life, endorsing execution contradicts the principle of preserving human life. Taking a life to punish the taking of a life undermines the moral foundation of justice.

 

[igotyour40acres]

Carlie Brucia... Say her name!

I will never forget this case!! Carlie Jane Brucia was horrifically Raped and Murdered by Joseph P. Smith after being kidnapped from a car wash near her home in Sarasota, Florida on February 1, 2004 which was caught on surveillance camera video. Smith had a long list of prior arrests for drug-related charges and one for kidnapping and false imprisonment...

Research the case for yourself. Once you do, there will be no way you can tell me that capitol punishment is not justified for these sick bastards!!!

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In cases like THIS, the previous DA and judge that allowed that cock sucking faggot to ever walk out of that jail should be held accountable for their god damn stupidly/activism.

Activists = Faggots

 

[Jenny]

There's nothing wrong with an eye for an eye when their crimes are that heinous and numberous. Even if it doesn't deter, some will never be successfully rehabilitated and why should the tax payers shoulder the burden to house, feed, entertain, these criminals as well as DOC personel risk their lives? It's a repugnant notion.
You have never been a victim of anything that heinous is my guess as to why you are against the death penalty.

 

[Fäthër Cörpsë]

Feels like the intent of the death penalty has been lost, if it was meant as a deterrent.

Maybe we should get back to the days of verdict, sentencing, and execution all the same day.

Get a rope.

 

[45cal1911]

I’m from the USA and come from that perspective just fyi . I am against the death penalty for the following reasons:

A. It doesn’t deter, like its supporters sometimes say it does. States that execute more have higher murder rates. Also a lot of murder is passion or hatred based and the person isn’t think rationally about punishment they are just so in the moment. Or they are one of these psychopath husbands who kill there wives and think they are so smart they are never going to get caught. Deterrence doesn’t work if they don’t think they are gonna get caught is my point.

B. It doesn’t make the public any more safe. With life in prison they are still separated from the public. Public safety should be one of the main goals of the justices system and killing the perp doesn’t do that.

C. The only purpose it seems to serve is as a blood sacrifice. A revenge killing for that illusory thing called “closure”, that doesn’t come. If someone you love is murdered and horrible things done to them before their death. I don’t believe there is closure for something like that. If you love that person that wound will always be there. Death will be the closure for someone who has experience loss like that.

I don’t think a blood sacrifice is a sufficient reason for killing someone. We as a society, our justice system, should be better than that. Btw I’d feel the same if it was my mom or brother killed. I would of course have violent anger towards them and want to kill them and hurt them. But just because I feel something doesn’t mean I have to give into it. I would tell the prosecutor I don’t want the person excused. If you can’t stick to your principles when it’s extremely hard to, they arent really principles are they.

D. I should have done this reason first, because I think it is the most important. We have executed innocent people. People who were murdered by the state, by us, done in our name, killed and later found to be not guilty. You paid to have innocent people killed. This is outrageous and it totally negates any “justice” done by executing horrifically guilt men. Eliminating the death penalty eliminates the possibility of this outrageous injustice occurring.

E. This is my last reason, I think, unless something somebody says spurs me. Because of how long it takes and how the person that’s condemned, rightly so, has due process and a right to appeal. That it costs the state, costs the taxpayer, costs you and me, more in the long run to execute the person than just giving him life in prison with no parole. So the economics, which is secondary to me than the ethics and justice, favors the abolishment of this human sacrifice practice.

So those are my reasons my little pretties. What am I wrong? Why do you disagree? What do you think I’m missing? Why should it be legal? Fire away.

OR, Do you agree and do you have more reason to add to my list. I’d love to hear them too.

You are a modern day hippy and completely detached from reality. Perhaps your prison time and drug abuse has influenced your reasoning.

Your "do-gooder activism" will bring you closer to hell and not the opposite.