All for the death penalty, even if they didn't do anything wrong.
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they need to be locked in a 10x10 or less cublicle with constant white led lights buzzing and have no outside contact.I'm for it. If I was a criminal sentenced to life in prison instead of death I would still get enjoyment out of living by reading, watching sports, witnessing historic events as they occur and following space exploration.
I shouldn't have that right. Criminals don't want to be put to death which is why they fight it. Their last possession is their life, it should be taken away from them
based.All for the death penalty, even if they didn't do anything wrong.
That would be a great idea. if the person is gonna be a sack of shit might as make him worth something before, he dies. then maybe the convict victims would be at peaceI prefer the concept of slow death by medical research; You see, medical research on rats, pigs or primates wastes too much time and resources.
I’m from the USA and come from that perspective just fyi . I am against the death penalty for the following reasons:
A. It doesn’t deter, like its supporters sometimes say it does. States that execute more have higher murder rates. Also a lot of murder is passion or hatred based and the person isn’t think rationally about punishment they are just so in the moment. Or they are one of these psychopath husbands who kill there wives and think they are so smart they are never going to get caught. Deterrence doesn’t work if they don’t think they are gonna get caught is my point.
B. It doesn’t make the public any more safe. With life in prison they are still separated from the public. Public safety should be one of the main goals of the justices system and killing the perp doesn’t do that.
C. The only purpose it seems to serve is as a blood sacrifice. A revenge killing for that illusory thing called “closure”, that doesn’t come. If someone you love is murdered and horrible things done to them before their death. I don’t believe there is closure for something like that. If you love that person that wound will always be there. Death will be the closure for someone who has experience loss like that.
I don’t think a blood sacrifice is a sufficient reason for killing someone. We as a society, our justice system, should be better than that. Btw I’d feel the same if it was my mom or brother killed. I would of course have violent anger towards them and want to kill them and hurt them. But just because I feel something doesn’t mean I have to give into it. I would tell the prosecutor I don’t want the person excused. If you can’t stick to your principles when it’s extremely hard to, they arent really principles are they.
D. I should have done this reason first, because I think it is the most important. We have executed innocent people. People who were murdered by the state, by us, done in our name, killed and later found to be not guilty. You paid to have innocent people killed. This is outrageous and it totally negates any “justice” done by executing horrifically guilt men. Eliminating the death penalty eliminates the possibility of this outrageous injustice occurring.
E. This is my last reason, I think, unless something somebody says spurs me. Because of how long it takes and how the person that’s condemned, rightly so, has due process and a right to appeal. That it costs the state, costs the taxpayer, costs you and me, more in the long run to execute the person than just giving him life in prison with no parole. So the economics, which is secondary to me than the ethics and justice, favors the abolishment of this human sacrifice practice.
So those are my reasons my little pretties. What am I wrong? Why do you disagree? What do you think I’m missing? Why should it be legal? Fire away.
OR, Do you agree and do you have more reason to add to my list. I’d love to hear them too.
II prefer the concept of slow death by medical research; You see, medical research on rats, pigs or primates wastes too much time and resources.
I’m from the USA and come from that perspective just fyi . I am against the death penalty for the following reasons:
A. It doesn’t deter, like its supporters sometimes say it does. States that execute more have higher murder rates. Also a lot of murder is passion or hatred based and the person isn’t think rationally about punishment they are just so in the moment. Or they are one of these psychopath husbands who kill there wives and think they are so smart they are never going to get caught. Deterrence doesn’t work if they don’t think they are gonna get caught is my point.
B. It doesn’t make the public any more safe. With life in prison they are still separated from the public. Public safety should be one of the main goals of the justices system and killing the perp doesn’t do that.
C. The only purpose it seems to serve is as a blood sacrifice. A revenge killing for that illusory thing called “closure”, that doesn’t come. If someone you love is murdered and horrible things done to them before their death. I don’t believe there is closure for something like that. If you love that person that wound will always be there. Death will be the closure for someone who has experience loss like that.
I don’t think a blood sacrifice is a sufficient reason for killing someone. We as a society, our justice system, should be better than that. Btw I’d feel the same if it was my mom or brother killed. I would of course have violent anger towards them and want to kill them and hurt them. But just because I feel something doesn’t mean I have to give into it. I would tell the prosecutor I don’t want the person excused. If you can’t stick to your principles when it’s extremely hard to, they arent really principles are they.
D. I should have done this reason first, because I think it is the most important. We have executed innocent people. People who were murdered by the state, by us, done in our name, killed and later found to be not guilty. You paid to have innocent people killed. This is outrageous and it totally negates any “justice” done by executing horrifically guilt men. Eliminating the death penalty eliminates the possibility of this outrageous injustice occurring.
E. This is my last reason, I think, unless something somebody says spurs me. Because of how long it takes and how the person that’s condemned, rightly so, has due process and a right to appeal. That it costs the state, costs the taxpayer, costs you and me, more in the long run to execute the person than just giving him life in prison with no parole. So the economics, which is secondary to me than the ethics and justice, favors the abolishment of this human sacrifice practice.
So those are my reasons my little pretties. What am I wrong? Why do you disagree? What do you think I’m missing? Why should it be legal? Fire away.
OR, Do you agree and do you have more reason to add to my list. I’d love to hear them too.
The US justice system is what is the real problem. Appeals are fine and are a criminals right. There have been many people exonerated years later. It goes back to nobody fearing the consequences. I always feared my father would beat the shit out of me if I got out of line too much. He never had to really kick my ass, just a couple well deserved significant strikes.The death penalty should be used MORE. Why drain everyone to keep a POS in prison for life? They are NEVER leaving, just kill them. That's more humane for EVERYONE. Then we need to execute to send an example, they just don't do it right. Public executions are the way to go. Swift and brutal. People don't care because they know they will sit on death row for 20 years, at which point they overturn a lot of execution orders. We start executing people an hour after sentence, and publicly? It will work as a deterrent very fast. Yes, execution as a punishment is called for! Imagine for a moment you have a little girl, and some animal does something unimaginable to her, you would want them dead. Pedophiles should be flayed on prime time TV! Make it the super bowl halftime show! Execution works if it's done correctly, we dont do it correct in the USA.
Speaking facts. I'm guessing @Christopher Hitchens won't come back spewing bullshit in his gay thread as too many people here spoke the truth and made him look like the useless, jobless clown he truly is.First off you're gay had to get that out of the way.
Secondly, the death penalty works because it eliminates the repeat offenders, or those who have done something to deserve to lose their life or be in prison forever.
As you said, they are in prison for the rest of their lives right? No reason to keep them alive then, if they cannot and won't be rehabilitated they should be executed to reduce tax spending, a nigger that murdered 2 white children should be executed, no need to pay for his ass to get 3 hot meals and a bed to sleep on every night, they deserve to be sent straight to Hell, not postpone the natural order.
If we did have a system that executed violent offenders first offense depending on severity or repeat violent offenders instead of letting them stay in prison that would be ideal, for convicted murder should be immediate execution, for convicted rape should be immediate execution, there are mother fuckers out there that have been arrested 50 times for violent crimes and they still get released, their asses wouldn't even be on the street if they were executed.
The reason people don't give a damn about consequences anymore is because there is no god damn consequences anymore, the prison system is a revolving door as is the "justice system" where violent offenders can and will be released the same day they are arrested without even posting bail only to go out and kill more people, rob more banks and elderly people.
It's funny that there's people like you that actually side with criminals, but the fact remains if you execute violent offenders and repeat violent offenders you completely eliminate them from having the opportunity to strike again and statistically they do, they always go back to their same old shit.
An illegal alien in Central Texas went on a mass shooting shot 5 people and a little girl was shot in the head, his ass is only serving 7 years, why the fuck is he serving 7 years, he's a fucking spic terrorist mass shooter, but people like his ass get to walk after barely any time because of people like you who believe dangerous criminals should be dealt with lightly, if it were up to me he'd be skinned alive and I hope that's what is in store for him when he's released.
Death penalty for people like you Sabu, tires and flames babySpeaking facts. I'm guessing @Christopher Hitchens won't come back spewing bullshit in his gay thread as too many people here spoke the truth and made him look like the useless, jobless clown he truly is.
I’m from the USA and come from that perspective just fyi . I am against the death penalty for the following reasons:
A. It doesn’t deter, like its supporters sometimes say it does. States that execute more have higher murder rates. Also a lot of murder is passion or hatred based and the person isn’t think rationally about punishment they are just so in the moment. Or they are one of these psychopath husbands who kill there wives and think they are so smart they are never going to get caught. Deterrence doesn’t work if they don’t think they are gonna get caught is my point.
B. It doesn’t make the public any more safe. With life in prison they are still separated from the public. Public safety should be one of the main goals of the justices system and killing the perp doesn’t do that.
C. The only purpose it seems to serve is as a blood sacrifice. A revenge killing for that illusory thing called “closure”, that doesn’t come. If someone you love is murdered and horrible things done to them before their death. I don’t believe there is closure for something like that. If you love that person that wound will always be there. Death will be the closure for someone who has experience loss like that.
I don’t think a blood sacrifice is a sufficient reason for killing someone. We as a society, our justice system, should be better than that. Btw I’d feel the same if it was my mom or brother killed. I would of course have violent anger towards them and want to kill them and hurt them. But just because I feel something doesn’t mean I have to give into it. I would tell the prosecutor I don’t want the person excused. If you can’t stick to your principles when it’s extremely hard to, they arent really principles are they.
D. I should have done this reason first, because I think it is the most important. We have executed innocent people. People who were murdered by the state, by us, done in our name, killed and later found to be not guilty. You paid to have innocent people killed. This is outrageous and it totally negates any “justice” done by executing horrifically guilt men. Eliminating the death penalty eliminates the possibility of this outrageous injustice occurring.
E. This is my last reason, I think, unless something somebody says spurs me. Because of how long it takes and how the person that’s condemned, rightly so, has due process and a right to appeal. That it costs the state, costs the taxpayer, costs you and me, more in the long run to execute the person than just giving him life in prison with no parole. So the economics, which is secondary to me than the ethics and justice, favors the abolishment of this human sacrifice practice.
So those are my reasons my little pretties. What am I wrong? Why do you disagree? What do you think I’m missing? Why should it be legal? Fire away.
OR, Do you agree and do you have more reason to add to my list. I’d love to hear them too.
That kind of thinking never enters #chrissies head, trust. Full blown one she isI'm for it. If I was a criminal sentenced to life in prison instead of death I would still get enjoyment out of living by reading, watching sports, witnessing historic events as they occur and following space exploration.
I shouldn't have that right. Criminals don't want to be put to death which is why they fight it. Their last possession is their life, it should be taken away from them