(One Of?) The First Jazz Song Ever Recorded, from 1917

[Christopher Hitchens]

‘Original Dixieland Jass Band (ODJB) was founded in New Orleans in 1916. Their first jazz recording is
dated 1917. In late 1917 it changed the name's spelling to "Jazz."’
L'ODJB first members were: Larry Shields (clarinet), Eddie Edwards (trombone), Henry Ragas (piano), Tony Sbarbaro (drums) e Nick LaRocca (cornet)

 

[djdeeds]

Been a DJ since I left school in 12th grade .. did it for many years .. my own business evolved for a while into doing stage effects for weddings and such and I've had to take on board new technologies to stay in the game ... some of it has sucked.
A few years ago when my great Grandma died .. my Uncle invited me to help him (basically con job me into working for free) to clean up my old grandma's house for resale. When I arrived he had already thrown tons of stuff into a big skip to be dragged away and disposed of. I noticed a weirdy old wooden decorative box in among the pile of shit and quizzed him on what it was. He said abruptly .. it's all crap ... she was a fucking hoarder ... and continued to throw stuff onto the pile.
I curiously lifted that box and took it to my car and put it on the back seat. I then kept an eye out for possible other curiosities that might be linked to it (stuff like a weird handle ... a waterlogged bag of old shellac records under the house etc)
Cut a long story short .... I got that old machine working again after many youtube videos and tutorials and perseverance ... and I developed a love for old antique records. As a DJ for many years it was like discovering a new experience and I ended up buying from antique dealers two 1920's Gramophone players that wind up ...and I started being one of those annoying flea market cunts that haunt second hand junk tables and I started collecting a lot of really old crap 78's (they are heavy like dinner plates and crack like biscuits) and I collected and collected .
I got a weirdy idea (after doing twenty years of weddings) that maybe I could go out and set up an antique console and spin antique records and so I did .. It became a word of mouth thing and I never really got the idea properly off the ground ... but the few gigs I did raked in some decent money and I'm still thinking about maybe taking the idea to the next level and marketing myself as some kind of - I dunno - 1920's DJ and spin old shellacs (I had to retro fit a small microphone onto the inside of the platers to get the sound amplified) and keep those fuckers winding with a handle LOL but they were some of the greatest gigs I ever had in my entire DJ history.
I don't know a damn thing about old 1920's music but I'm learning - and my idea of setting myself up as an old 1920's DJ in a suit and top hat paid me tripple what I normally would get from a 21st birthday or similar .. AND the gigs are shorter maybe one hour or two then I pack up and fuck off.
Anyway that's my story relating to old shellac records - they whizz around at 78rpm and cracle like a bushfire .... but they are beautiful things .. I absolutely love'em ...and when I muck around with them I feel like my Nana is in the room with me.

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

Been a DJ since I left school in 12th grade .. did it for many years .. my own business evolved for a while into doing stage effects for weddings and such and I've had to take on board new technologies to stay in the game ... some of it has sucked.
A few years ago when my great Grandma died .. my Uncle invited me to help him (basically con job me into working for free) to clean up my old grandma's house for resale. When I arrived he had already thrown tons of stuff into a big skip to be dragged away and disposed of. I noticed a weirdy old wooden decorative box in among the pile of shit and quizzed him on what it was. He said abruptly .. it's all crap ... she was a fucking hoarder ... and continued to throw stuff onto the pile.
I curiously lifted that box and took it to my car and put it on the back seat. I then kept an eye out for possible other curiosities that might be linked to it (stuff like a weird handle ... a waterlogged bag of old shellac records under the house etc)
Cut a long story short .... I got that old machine working again after many youtube videos and tutorials and perseverance ... and I developed a love for old antique records. As a DJ for many years it was like discovering a new experience and I ended up buying from antique dealers two 1920's Gramophone players that wind up ...and I started being one of those annoying flea market cunts that haunt second hand junk tables and I started collecting a lot of really old crap 78's (they are heavy like dinner plates and crack like biscuits) and I collected and collected .
I got a weirdy idea (after doing twenty years of weddings) that maybe I could go out and set up an antique console and spin antique records and so I did .. It became a word of mouth thing and I never really got the idea properly off the ground ... but the few gigs I did raked in some decent money and I'm still thinking about maybe taking the idea to the next level and marketing myself as some kind of - I dunno - 1920's DJ and spin old shellacs (I had to retro fit a small microphone onto the inside of the platers to get the sound amplified) and keep those fuckers winding with a handle LOL but they were some of the greatest gigs I ever had in my entire DJ history.
I don't know a damn thing about old 1920's music but I'm learning - and my idea of setting myself up as an old 1920's DJ in a suit and top hat paid me tripple what I normally would get from a 21st birthday or similar .. AND the gigs are shorter maybe one hour or two then I pack up and fuck off.
Anyway that's my story relating to old shellac records - they whizz around at 78rpm and cracle like a bushfire .... but they are beautiful things .. I absolutely love'em ...and when I muck around with them I feel like my Nana is in the room with me.
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Wow that sounds fantastic! I love old records myself but you are going deeper than I ever have. I tip my hat to you.

 

[Cauntsniff]

So ain't the blacks supposed to be responsible for jazz ? Those guys dont look lole they is negro! (never once heard it referred to as jass tbh weird way to spell it)

 

[wiggins]

‘Original Dixieland Jass Band (ODJB) was founded in New Orleans in 1916. Their first jazz recording is
dated 1917. In late 1917 it changed the name's spelling to "Jazz."’
L'ODJB first members were: Larry Shields (clarinet), Eddie Edwards (trombone), Henry Ragas (piano), Tony Sbarbaro (drums) e Nick LaRocca (cornet)

Negermusik - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Andy.]

Been a DJ since I left school in 12th grade .. did it for many years .. my own business evolved for a while into doing stage effects for weddings and such and I've had to take on board new technologies to stay in the game ... some of it has sucked.
A few years ago when my great Grandma died .. my Uncle invited me to help him (basically con job me into working for free) to clean up my old grandma's house for resale. When I arrived he had already thrown tons of stuff into a big skip to be dragged away and disposed of. I noticed a weirdy old wooden decorative box in among the pile of shit and quizzed him on what it was. He said abruptly .. it's all crap ... she was a fucking hoarder ... and continued to throw stuff onto the pile.
I curiously lifted that box and took it to my car and put it on the back seat. I then kept an eye out for possible other curiosities that might be linked to it (stuff like a weird handle ... a waterlogged bag of old shellac records under the house etc)
Cut a long story short .... I got that old machine working again after many youtube videos and tutorials and perseverance ... and I developed a love for old antique records. As a DJ for many years it was like discovering a new experience and I ended up buying from antique dealers two 1920's Gramophone players that wind up ...and I started being one of those annoying flea market cunts that haunt second hand junk tables and I started collecting a lot of really old crap 78's (they are heavy like dinner plates and crack like biscuits) and I collected and collected .
I got a weirdy idea (after doing twenty years of weddings) that maybe I could go out and set up an antique console and spin antique records and so I did .. It became a word of mouth thing and I never really got the idea properly off the ground ... but the few gigs I did raked in some decent money and I'm still thinking about maybe taking the idea to the next level and marketing myself as some kind of - I dunno - 1920's DJ and spin old shellacs (I had to retro fit a small microphone onto the inside of the platers to get the sound amplified) and keep those fuckers winding with a handle LOL but they were some of the greatest gigs I ever had in my entire DJ history.
I don't know a damn thing about old 1920's music but I'm learning - and my idea of setting myself up as an old 1920's DJ in a suit and top hat paid me tripple what I normally would get from a 21st birthday or similar .. AND the gigs are shorter maybe one hour or two then I pack up and fuck off.
Anyway that's my story relating to old shellac records - they whizz around at 78rpm and cracle like a bushfire .... but they are beautiful things .. I absolutely love'em ...and when I muck around with them I feel like my Nana is in the room with me.
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Good on you DJ, vintage gear is the best! Everyone needs to be addicted to their obsession 😎

 

[dwdays]

Fine…but now I need some House of the Holy to clean my ears.

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

So ain't the blacks supposed to be responsible for jazz ? Those guys dont look lole they is negro! (never once heard it referred to as jass tbh weird way to spell it)

Whites played it too and idk if they are black or not hard to tell. Yea I didn’t know that either but apparently is was spelled like that. I read a wives tale of why they changed it. That if you covered up the j in posters or whatever it spelled “ass” so they put to Zs instead. But that’s not confirmed that’s just like a legend apparently, i read about this just googling stuff some months ago.

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

Fine…but now I need some House of the Holy to clean my ears.

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

Negermusik - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[hedgerow]

Henry Ford believed jazz music was unwholesome.
So to protect wholesome culture, he used his money to have square dancing taught in public schools.

remember jazz bad, square dance good

 

[wiggins]

Adolf called it 'Nigger boogaloo' and banned it.

Mind you, I quite like some jazz.

Fats Waller is my favourite. He was so good it's awsome. Died in the late '30's. Tragic loss.

'I really hate ya caus yer feets too big... '

 

[wiggins]

ANTIFA will be winning right up to the point where it's not.

I keep thinking about Weimar Germany in the '20's. All fun and wild parties and gay and lesbian clubs and pushing the boundaries of decency to bursting point.

Americans used to go over for sex tourism holidays the way people go to Thailand now. The Mark was worthless and women and men, boys and girls, ducks, what ever took your fancy, cocaine, heroin etc etc was available for virtually pennies.

And then, inevitably, the push back came and the NAZI's came to power.

The same thing is happening now.

In Australia one of the ways that CRT is manifesting is the almost obligatory Welcome To Country. This idea was thought up by a part aboriginal TV star called 'Ernie Dingo' in the late 1970's as an answer to the NZ Rugby team 'The All Blacks' Haka.

With CRT it has morphed into this nonsense with very pale abos dressed up in possum cloaks and dot painting T shirts with maybe a bit of ochre, calling themselves 'uncle' or 'aunty' (as a title of respect some how...) and then droning on about how the white man fucked them all over. Whilst they are doing that we are supposed to look all enchanted.

Here's a pic from our dawn ANZAC day parade. Note the abo style synthetic printed shirt, possum skin and hat with abo logo, also white skin.



We have an election next weekend and both our PM and opposition leader slammed the 'neo NAZI's' for booing when this idiot did his thing.

Of note, I subscribe to one of Aus' best newspapers, The Australian. They have a comments section after each article. Whilst the article said how terrible it was to denergrate the parade by booing, every single comment said that the Welcome To Country had no part in ANZAC and they supported those who booh'd.

And of course the guys who boohed were branded 'neo NAZI's'.

‘Neo-Nazi’ booing of welcome to country at Melbourne Anzac Day dawn service condemned

Small group booed and yelled at Bunurong elder Uncle Mark Brown’s welcome and Victorian governor’s acknowledgement of country

www.theguardian.com

So when we get neo NAZI's as the only ones who will say out loud what we all think, then the push back is comming. And it's going to hit hard and fast.

So I'm not sure that ANTIFA is winning and I think the 'progressive left' should moderate their mesaging before the bad guys come knocking...

 

[wiggins]

Here's some boohing. But check out the comments below:

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

ANTIFA will be winning right up to the point where it's not.

Yea I was being ironic I don’t really thing antifa is winning.

I keep thinking about Weimar Germany in the '20's. All fun and wild parties and gay and lesbian clubs and pushing the boundaries of decency to bursting point.

There were fun and wild parties in America too it was called e roaring 20s. Germany’s collapse into nazism wasn’t because of parties and gay people, it was the Great Depression.

Americans used to go over for sex tourism holidays the way people go to Thailand now. The Mark was worthless and women and men, boys and girls, ducks, what ever took your fancy, cocaine, heroin etc etc was available for virtually pennies.

The dollar isn’t worthless though and drugs have been available for thousands of years, that doesn’t mean they are why the Nazis came to power.

And then, inevitably, the push back came and the NAZI's came to power.

Again it was because of the Great Depression and related matters like fear among the middle and upper classes about a Bolshevik style revolution happening in Germany.

The same thing is happening now.

No it’s not. Weimar Germany and the USA or the west is not the same thing at all. The Weimar Republic wasn’t even a function democracy by the end, it was ruling by decree before Hitler came to power. I just don’t see parralels and all you said could be said about the 1960s but yet we survived and are still here.

In Australia one of the ways that CRT is manifesting is the almost obligatory Welcome To Country. This idea was thought up by a part aboriginal TV star called 'Ernie Dingo' in the late 1970's as an answer to the NZ Rugby team 'The All Blacks' Haka.

I don’t know really anything about Australian politics. What is this “Welcome to Country” thing? Can you link something about it?

With CRT it has morphed into this nonsense with very pale abos dressed up in possum cloaks and dot painting T shirts with maybe a bit of ochre, calling themselves 'uncle' or 'aunty' (as a title of respect some how...) and then droning on about how the white man fucked them all over. Whilst they are doing that we are supposed to look all enchanted.

Well the white man did fuck the aboriginal Australian over so. Although I know what you are trying to say, just dwelling in their history won’t do them much go. That doesn’t do any people much good to just anguish over past injustices, think. But it’s ok to talk about.

Here's a pic from our dawn ANZAC day parade. Note the abo style synthetic printed shirt, possum skin and hat with abo logo, also white skin.

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We have an election next weekend and both our PM and opposition leader slammed the 'neo NAZI's' for booing when this idiot did his thing.

Of note, I subscribe to one of Aus' best newspapers, The Australian. They have a comments section after each article. Whilst the article said how terrible it was to denergrate the parade by booing, every single comment said that the Welcome To Country had no part in ANZAC and they supported those who booh'd.

And of course the guys who boohed were branded 'neo NAZI's'.

‘Neo-Nazi’ booing of welcome to country at Melbourne Anzac Day dawn service condemned

Small group booed and yelled at Bunurong elder Uncle Mark Brown’s welcome and Victorian governor’s acknowledgement of country

www.theguardian.com

I don’t know anything about this so I’ll read the article.

So when we get neo NAZI's as the only ones who will say out loud what we all think, then the push back is comming. And it's going to hit hard and fast.

What is it in Australia that everyone thinks but can’t say out loud?

So I'm not sure that ANTIFA is winning and I think the 'progressive left' should moderate their mesaging before the bad guys come knocking...

As I said I wasn’t serious.

 

[Htos1av]

Been a DJ since I left school in 12th grade .. did it for many years .. my own business evolved for a while into doing stage effects for weddings and such and I've had to take on board new technologies to stay in the game ... some of it has sucked.
A few years ago when my great Grandma died .. my Uncle invited me to help him (basically con job me into working for free) to clean up my old grandma's house for resale. When I arrived he had already thrown tons of stuff into a big skip to be dragged away and disposed of. I noticed a weirdy old wooden decorative box in among the pile of shit and quizzed him on what it was. He said abruptly .. it's all crap ... she was a fucking hoarder ... and continued to throw stuff onto the pile.
I curiously lifted that box and took it to my car and put it on the back seat. I then kept an eye out for possible other curiosities that might be linked to it (stuff like a weird handle ... a waterlogged bag of old shellac records under the house etc)
Cut a long story short .... I got that old machine working again after many youtube videos and tutorials and perseverance ... and I developed a love for old antique records. As a DJ for many years it was like discovering a new experience and I ended up buying from antique dealers two 1920's Gramophone players that wind up ...and I started being one of those annoying flea market cunts that haunt second hand junk tables and I started collecting a lot of really old crap 78's (they are heavy like dinner plates and crack like biscuits) and I collected and collected .
I got a weirdy idea (after doing twenty years of weddings) that maybe I could go out and set up an antique console and spin antique records and so I did .. It became a word of mouth thing and I never really got the idea properly off the ground ... but the few gigs I did raked in some decent money and I'm still thinking about maybe taking the idea to the next level and marketing myself as some kind of - I dunno - 1920's DJ and spin old shellacs (I had to retro fit a small microphone onto the inside of the platers to get the sound amplified) and keep those fuckers winding with a handle LOL but they were some of the greatest gigs I ever had in my entire DJ history.
I don't know a damn thing about old 1920's music but I'm learning - and my idea of setting myself up as an old 1920's DJ in a suit and top hat paid me tripple what I normally would get from a 21st birthday or similar .. AND the gigs are shorter maybe one hour or two then I pack up and fuck off.
Anyway that's my story relating to old shellac records - they whizz around at 78rpm and cracle like a bushfire .... but they are beautiful things .. I absolutely love'em ...and when I muck around with them I feel like my Nana is in the room with me.
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A/V and sound engineer daily since 1974....(the digital portfolio-I'd need a WAREHOUSE for the analog media)