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Paleontologists in South Africa said they have found the oldest known burial site in the world, containing remains of a small-brained distant relative of humans previously thought incapable of complex behavior.

Led by renowned paleoanthropologist Lee Berger, researchers said in June they had discovered several specimens of Homo naledi – a tree-climbing, Stone Age hominid – buried about 30 meters (100 feet) underground in a cave system within the Cradle of Humankind, a UNESCO world heritage site near Johannesburg.


"These are the most ancient interments yet recorded in the hominin record, earlier than evidence of Homo sapiens interments by at least 100,000 years," the scientists wrote in a series of preprint papers published in eLife.


The findings challenge the current understanding of human evolution, as it is normally held that the development of bigger brains allowed for the performing of complex, "meaning-making" activities such as burying the dead.

The oldest burials previously unearthed, found in the Middle East and Africa, contained the remains of Homo sapiens – and were around 100,000 years old.


Those found in South Africa by Berger, whose previous announcements have been controversial, and his fellow researchers, date back to at least 200,000 BC.


Critically, they also belong to Homo naledi, a primitive species at the crossroads between apes and modern humans, which had brains about the size of oranges and stood about 1.5 meters (five feet) tall.

With curved fingers and toes, tool-wielding hands and feet made for walking, the species discovered by Berger had already upended the notion that our evolutionary path was a straight line.


Homo naledi is named after the "Rising Star" cave system where the first bones were found in 2013.

The oval-shaped interments at the center of the new studies were also found there during excavations started in 2018.

The holes, which researchers say evidence suggests were deliberately dug and then filled in to cover the bodies, contain at least five individuals.


"These discoveries show that mortuary practices were not limited to H. sapiens or other hominins with large brain sizes," the researchers said.


The burial site is not the only sign that Homo naledi was capable of complex emotional and cognitive behavior, they added.


Brain size​

Engravings forming geometrical shapes, including a "rough hashtag figure", were also found on the apparently purposely smoothed surfaces of a cave pillar nearby.

That would mean not only are humans not unique in the development of symbolic practices, but may not have even invented such behaviors," Berger told AFP in an interview.


Such statements are likely to ruffle some feathers in the world of paleontology, where the 57-year-old has previously faced accusations of lacking scientific rigor and rushing to conclusions.


Many balked when in 2015 Berger, whose earlier discoveries won support from National Geographic, first aired the idea that Homo naledi was capable of more than the size of its head suggested.

That was too much for scientists to take at that time. We think it's all tied up with this big brain," he said.


"We're about to tell the world that's not true."

While requiring further analysis, the discoveries "alter our understandings of human evolution", the researchers wrote.

Burial, meaning-making, even 'art' could have a much more complicated, dynamic, non-human history than we previously thought," said Agustín Fuentes, a professor of anthropology at Princeton University, who co-authored the studies.


Carol Ward, an anthropologist at the University of Missouri not involved in the research, said that "these findings, if confirmed, would be of considerable potential importance".


"I look forward to learning how the disposition of remains precludes other possible explanations than intentional burial, and to seeing the results once they have been vetted by peer review," she told AFP.

Ward also pointed out that the paper acknowledged that it could not rule out that markings on the walls could have been made by later hominins.

 

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Tourists in India witnessed monkeys burying one of their dead recently, and not only that they left fruit in the grave before covering it with dirt. The monkey grave wasn't marked but the other monkeys would occasionally stop and put their noses to the soil above it, so they still knew one of their own was under there. I'm just bullshitting by the way.
 

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Paleontologists in South Africa said they have found the oldest known burial site in the world, containing remains of a small-brained distant relative of humans previously thought incapable of complex behavior......
I read that and thought the story was about niggers....
 

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Tourists in India witnessed monkeys burying one of their dead recently, and not only that they left fruit in the grave before covering it with dirt. The monkey grave wasn't marked but the other monkeys would occasionally stop and put their noses to the soil above it, so they still knew one of their own was under there. I'm just bullshitting by the way.
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Paleontologists in South Africa said they have found the oldest known burial site in the world, containing remains of a small-brained distant relative of humans previously thought incapable of complex behavior.

Led by renowned paleoanthropologist Lee Berger, researchers said in June they had discovered several specimens of Homo naledi – a tree-climbing, Stone Age hominid – buried about 30 meters (100 feet) underground in a cave system within the Cradle of Humankind, a UNESCO world heritage site near Johannesburg.


"These are the most ancient interments yet recorded in the hominin record, earlier than evidence of Homo sapiens interments by at least 100,000 years," the scientists wrote in a series of preprint papers published in eLife.


The findings challenge the current understanding of human evolution, as it is normally held that the development of bigger brains allowed for the performing of complex, "meaning-making" activities such as burying the dead.

The oldest burials previously unearthed, found in the Middle East and Africa, contained the remains of Homo sapiens – and were around 100,000 years old.


Those found in South Africa by Berger, whose previous announcements have been controversial, and his fellow researchers, date back to at least 200,000 BC.


Critically, they also belong to Homo naledi, a primitive species at the crossroads between apes and modern humans, which had brains about the size of oranges and stood about 1.5 meters (five feet) tall.

With curved fingers and toes, tool-wielding hands and feet made for walking, the species discovered by Berger had already upended the notion that our evolutionary path was a straight line.


Homo naledi is named after the "Rising Star" cave system where the first bones were found in 2013.

The oval-shaped interments at the center of the new studies were also found there during excavations started in 2018.

The holes, which researchers say evidence suggests were deliberately dug and then filled in to cover the bodies, contain at least five individuals.


"These discoveries show that mortuary practices were not limited to H. sapiens or other hominins with large brain sizes," the researchers said.


The burial site is not the only sign that Homo naledi was capable of complex emotional and cognitive behavior, they added.


Brain size​

Engravings forming geometrical shapes, including a "rough hashtag figure", were also found on the apparently purposely smoothed surfaces of a cave pillar nearby.

That would mean not only are humans not unique in the development of symbolic practices, but may not have even invented such behaviors," Berger told AFP in an interview.


Such statements are likely to ruffle some feathers in the world of paleontology, where the 57-year-old has previously faced accusations of lacking scientific rigor and rushing to conclusions.


Many balked when in 2015 Berger, whose earlier discoveries won support from National Geographic, first aired the idea that Homo naledi was capable of more than the size of its head suggested.

That was too much for scientists to take at that time. We think it's all tied up with this big brain," he said.


"We're about to tell the world that's not true."

While requiring further analysis, the discoveries "alter our understandings of human evolution", the researchers wrote.

Burial, meaning-making, even 'art' could have a much more complicated, dynamic, non-human history than we previously thought," said Agustín Fuentes, a professor of anthropology at Princeton University, who co-authored the studies.


Carol Ward, an anthropologist at the University of Missouri not involved in the research, said that "these findings, if confirmed, would be of considerable potential importance".


"I look forward to learning how the disposition of remains precludes other possible explanations than intentional burial, and to seeing the results once they have been vetted by peer review," she told AFP.

Ward also pointed out that the paper acknowledged that it could not rule out that markings on the walls could have been made by later hominins.

We've been around for 200 000 years so it could be one of us has buried the little orange head creature to stop it's odour corrupting the air in the cave...

And Neanderthals have been around a lot longer than us...
 

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This is so relevant to Ghost People. Its shows whatever doesn't like us because when we bury our dead with valuables we imply an afterlife has been around for a while.

Implying an afterlife means implying ghosts.

But since this burial is done by non-species members, it also brings questions like.

Do all mammals on this planet become spirits when they die?

Do all living creatures on the planet become spirits when they die?

Is this just because we are in a certain orbit in the universe and thus when we die physically something happens.?

Is the planet just a ghost nursery and a living person is just a ghost in its infancy stage?

No one would ever bury a corpse in the ground with valuables unless they knew there was an afterlife as a collective species. It would be a total waste of resources.

The grim question is, since it looks like earth is like a ghost making nursery, there might be an intelligence that want's to stop that.

A ghost racist type intelligence finds our nursery, and sets out to destroy it. Like a hornet's nest.

So they buried the dead 70000 years ago, but science and education ( math) arrived 6000 years ago and it's agreed this science is why we "progress" and that is why the earth is being harmed from science progression.

Destroying the ghost making nursery with Math.
 

GhostSight

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The lesbian that owns this site married another lesbian so they are like a couple. I think you asked them if they are lesbians because math discriminates against the females strong point right brain, they would not list that as a reason they are lesbians.
Because we are a ghost person species, some do things and they consciously have no idea why relative to the core reason why.
 

GhostSight

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Fact 1: Cemetaries where humans bury their dead exist.

Fact 2: Relatives tend to include valuables with the corpse when they bury it.


Theory 1: Because burying a corpse with valuables implies the corpse is not dead creates a major ambiguity.

Theory 2: The Ghost Person Sigmund Frued suggested Ambiguity is a "tell".

Fact 3: "Neurosis is the inability to tolerate ambiguity." - Freud

The plan of just making everyone ghost people at a young age is a sound plan.

Theory 3: If they are made GP's at 5 when they are afraid of everything it is easier to get death signal and thus easier to make GP's.

Theory 4: The demotic education won't harm a ghost person child because the "state" of being a ghost means not so many things can harm you, cause your dead.

I only put things in bold because you can't reason.

Tourists in India witnessed monkeys burying one of their dead recently, and not only that they left fruit in the grave before covering it with dirt. The monkey grave wasn't marked but the other monkeys would occasionally stop and put their noses to the soil above it, so they still knew one of their own was under there. I'm just bullshitting by the way.
They also found the elephants also bury their dead, or have like funerals for them.

This indicates this planet might just be one where the creatures on it when they physically die, something happens, and perhaps might just be due to "earths location in the universe."

There is no logical reason we would expose females to something that wipes them out mentally and could "cripple"" them forever, for no reason.

Roger Sperry said modern society discriminates against right hemisphere because math favors left and society is economic system that needs math to function at all.

So in theory other creatures physically die and also have an afterlife, because this is a "ghost nursery planet".

Thus the only species that is harming their females using math, is the dominate species oon the planet. Relative to "if you take out the strongest everything else is easy."

Thus the theory that something doesn't like this Ghost making nursery and its slowly and not obviously wiping it out.

You have to say you are in a pretty cool species once you understand, not holy spirits, and we never do bad, just ghosts.

You can't make it so when you physically die nothing happens and maybe lots of species are just like that, so your eventuality is always the same, ghost.
Once a person accepts that, sometimes it gets really funny.

Curt Cobain has a song and the lyrics go "It's okay to eat fish cause they dont have any feelings." This may be indicating maybe fish dont become ghosts when they physically die.

Feelings in that line would be translated in paranormal as empathic.

Ghost are super empaths to the degree you could destroy one by putting it in a room by itself and put in rooms all around very mean angry "people".
That happens and has happened that's why I know about it. This thing that doesn't like us, it is a skilled general.
Its inhabits and those are the ones "who don't know", because they are like spy's and what you to teach them and tell them what you know.

This situation is not a knowledge war.
 
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GhostSight

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There was a female in the US and she had a child.

She decided she was not going to allow her child to get "educated".

They kicked her out of the US and she moved to Europe.

She went to like Belgium and Switzerland and a few other place's and they all kicked her out because she still refused to let her child get educated.

When a female by herself stands up on a world stage trying to defend her offspring, from the education, after Sperry won a noble prize for discovering education does fuck up your mind, then I must pull up all the slack. The males in the species got math so they are super left brain, logical and counting numbers but dumb as shit and can be sent into a rage with one or two sentences, and they love wars cayuse it's based on logic "Get to the high ground."

We need to find out who that woman was and send her shit loads of money and help her, and wipe out any fucking thing that looks at her the wrong way.

I don't know what happened to her.

She may have been teaching what I topic of the sentence is.

Once you learn math you have to become a ghost person or you are inhabited.

She perhaps decided perhaps that is perhaps was best perhaps not to temp fate and expose her offspring to math, and she wasn't kidding.

Males not inhabited, ghost people males have to support things based on the reality of the situation.

I am going to quote "Saving Private Ryan", "We are going to find her and we are going to get her the hell out of there."

Since you cannot reason, I will pull up the slack, and find her.

"The wisest man I ever knew in my whole life could not read or write." - Jose Saramago


Why?

He didn't get his right brain telepathic aspect turned off in the process of learning math as a child, so he was just normal, mentally.

Why would something turn off a ghost person species telepathic aspect?

Because ghost people can detect it presence when it inhabits people and thus we would easily be able "cleanse is from our blood stream."

In theory, if a human didn't get education they might be able to detect the thing that inhabits the species, maybe not a accurately as a ghost person.

Blind the males and females with math, then they will blind their offspring, and its lights out.

This is a reverse thing.

It is considered neglect to not blind a male and females with education(math).

It is important to note that parents who refuse to educate their children may be at risk of committing educational neglect, which is illegal in many states. In fact, 24 states have statutes that list educational neglect as a type of child abuse1. If you suspect that a child is being neglected or abused, it is important to report it to the appropriate authorities.

This is an example of an intelligence that doesn't like us and it's using TACTICS.

A ghost person child is not going to be affected by education.

Making ghost people is bad.
Not educating children is bad.

Ghost People don't even officially exist at all, anywhere.

The thing that hates us because we are a ghost person species is intelligent and shows no signs of being inept.

War plan: Takew out Ghost Person Species.

1. Blind them take out their radar.

How?

Find out what side of the brain their radar is on and turn it off.

2. Educate the species with science math and attach rewards to it like money and fame.

3. Make it a crime or a horrible thing to not educate the children.

4. Destroy the environment by making terrible environmental decisions, this would be part of extermination plan.

5. Confuse the species and make it so they are so splintered they cannot form any resistance.

"I must've dreamed a thousand dreams.
Been haunted by a million screams." Lyrics from Genisis song Land of Confusion

He is saying he is haunted by a million screams, and that is another scream unto itself.

Theory: Most Rock music, alternative music and others are screams for help, nothing else.

GENEVA (23 January 2023) – 130 million girls are denied the human right to education around the world, UN experts* said today, calling on States to step up efforts for the realisation of this fundamental human right. Ahead of the International Day of Education, the experts issued the following statement:" - UN
"Each hemisphere is specialized for some behaviors and controls different types of thinking. The left brain is believed to be more logical, analytical, and objective. The right brain is said to be more intuitive, creative, emotional, and subjective."- Anatomy
That things is very clever but it sometimes does things that are totally reverse.
The UN is factually saying 130 million females aren't having their radar turned off and it's a human right to turn it off.
intuitive = telepathy

creative = Using telepathic information to formulate
emotional = Able to tell who is inhabited and who is not instantly.

Those three are the radar.

Non-crippled ghost people have these traits but they are greatly magnified.

Crippled ghost people "usually" aren't aware they are even ghosts, they are on some quest that goes no where. Like a poltergeist that throws stuff around but you can't make any sense of what they are trying to say. They appear lost or aimless.


Generally all the living got math and thus all are inhabited.

Generally, there are Ghost People and crippled ghost people as a result of the math education.

Thats is the only three types of humans excluding indigenous tribes still in the wild.

It's like the Clint Eastwood movie "The Crippled, the inhabited and the Ghosts."

The good the bad and the ugly. The crippled are good cause they are "done", they are blind and that's forever.
The bad are the inhabited, The thing uses the inhabited to do its bidding in its quest to wipe us out.
The Ghosts are ugly, we have to pull up all the slack, and it we don't succeed we can only blame ourselves.

Perhaps you are perhaps finding it more difficult to convince yourself perhaps I am not perhaps a genuine ghost, perhaps.

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GhostSight

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Perhaps the thing that doesn't like us can perhaps hear perhaps everything we say perhaps verbally perhaps.

Perhaps if you perhaps are perhaps the living, and thus perhaps learned math, perhaps, that thing perhaps can perhaps "see" through your eyes, perhaps, perhaps.

Perhaps that thing perhaps can read what you perhaps read and then perhaps use it to its advantage, perhaps, perhaps.

This is why the just "start making ghost people" plan is sound because its normal, for our species.

It's a sign we are not phased by anything.

Right now, ghost people do not officially exist, and few anywhere know how to make a ghost person, let alone do they have boot camps making them.

Thats a "tell" something is really fucked up, to ghosts.

The living who got math are inhabited. So they are just like background noise, talking about shit that has nothing to do with the reality of the situation.

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Ghost people understand and know the power of the alpha/numeric weapon on the species.
 

Grand Mal Caesar

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Perhaps the thing that doesn't like us can perhaps hear perhaps everything we say perhaps verbally perhaps.

Perhaps if you perhaps are perhaps the living, and thus perhaps learned math, perhaps, that thing perhaps can perhaps "see" through your eyes, perhaps, perhaps.

Perhaps that thing perhaps can read what you perhaps read and then perhaps use it to its advantage, perhaps, perhaps.

This is why the just "start making ghost people" plan is sound because its normal, for our species.

It's a sign we are not phased by anything.

Right now, ghost people do not officially exist, and few anywhere know how to make a ghost person, let alone do they have boot camps making them.

Thats a "tell" something is really fucked up, to ghosts.

The living who got math are inhabited. So they are just like background noise, talking about shit that has nothing to do with the reality of the situation.

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Ghost people understand and know the power of the alpha/numeric weapon on the species.
You're an annoying cunt. Make yourself into a ghost.
 
Paleontologists in South Africa said they have found the oldest known burial site in the world, containing remains of a small-brained distant relative of humans previously thought incapable of complex behavior.

Led by renowned paleoanthropologist Lee Berger, researchers said in June they had discovered several specimens of Homo naledi – a tree-climbing, Stone Age hominid – buried about 30 meters (100 feet) underground in a cave system within the Cradle of Humankind, a UNESCO world heritage site near Johannesburg.


"These are the most ancient interments yet recorded in the hominin record, earlier than evidence of Homo sapiens interments by at least 100,000 years," the scientists wrote in a series of preprint papers published in eLife.


The findings challenge the current understanding of human evolution, as it is normally held that the development of bigger brains allowed for the performing of complex, "meaning-making" activities such as burying the dead.

The oldest burials previously unearthed, found in the Middle East and Africa, contained the remains of Homo sapiens – and were around 100,000 years old.


Those found in South Africa by Berger, whose previous announcements have been controversial, and his fellow researchers, date back to at least 200,000 BC.


Critically, they also belong to Homo naledi, a primitive species at the crossroads between apes and modern humans, which had brains about the size of oranges and stood about 1.5 meters (five feet) tall.

With curved fingers and toes, tool-wielding hands and feet made for walking, the species discovered by Berger had already upended the notion that our evolutionary path was a straight line.


Homo naledi is named after the "Rising Star" cave system where the first bones were found in 2013.

The oval-shaped interments at the center of the new studies were also found there during excavations started in 2018.

The holes, which researchers say evidence suggests were deliberately dug and then filled in to cover the bodies, contain at least five individuals.


"These discoveries show that mortuary practices were not limited to H. sapiens or other hominins with large brain sizes," the researchers said.


The burial site is not the only sign that Homo naledi was capable of complex emotional and cognitive behavior, they added.


Brain size​

Engravings forming geometrical shapes, including a "rough hashtag figure", were also found on the apparently purposely smoothed surfaces of a cave pillar nearby.

That would mean not only are humans not unique in the development of symbolic practices, but may not have even invented such behaviors," Berger told AFP in an interview.


Such statements are likely to ruffle some feathers in the world of paleontology, where the 57-year-old has previously faced accusations of lacking scientific rigor and rushing to conclusions.


Many balked when in 2015 Berger, whose earlier discoveries won support from National Geographic, first aired the idea that Homo naledi was capable of more than the size of its head suggested.

That was too much for scientists to take at that time. We think it's all tied up with this big brain," he said.


"We're about to tell the world that's not true."

While requiring further analysis, the discoveries "alter our understandings of human evolution", the researchers wrote.

Burial, meaning-making, even 'art' could have a much more complicated, dynamic, non-human history than we previously thought," said Agustín Fuentes, a professor of anthropology at Princeton University, who co-authored the studies.


Carol Ward, an anthropologist at the University of Missouri not involved in the research, said that "these findings, if confirmed, would be of considerable potential importance".


"I look forward to learning how the disposition of remains precludes other possible explanations than intentional burial, and to seeing the results once they have been vetted by peer review," she told AFP.

Ward also pointed out that the paper acknowledged that it could not rule out that markings on the walls could have been made by later hominins.

Fascinating.
 
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