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Valentino Rossi, Marlboro and Yamaha
Latest Valentino Rossi rumour: A Marlboro-backed Yamaha for MotoGP 2013.
Discussions are underway that could see Marlboro fund a return to the Factory Yamaha team for struggling MotoGP superstar Valentino Rossi next season.
That's the claim made by Spanish publication Motocuatro.com which reports that - despite Rossi's public insistence that he would like to remain with Ducati and positive comments about new owner's Audi - meetings were held at the Italian Grand Prix between Rossi and Marlboro's Maurizio Arrivabene, then Arrivabene and Dorna's Carmelo Ezpeleta.
Marlboro switched its sponsorship from Yamaha to Ducati when the Italian manufacturer joined MotoGP in 2003, although advertising restrictions mean the Marlboro name is never seen on the race bikes.
Seven time MotoGP champion Rossi has been without a victory since leaving Yamaha at the end of 2010, while Yamaha has been without a title sponsor since Fiat left at the end of that same season.
2012 title leader Jorge Lorenzo has already re-signed for Yamaha, but the second Factory M1 ride - currently occupied by Ben Spies - remains undecided.
Rossi won four titles for Yamaha between 2004-2010, when he also claimed 46 of his record 79 race wins. The Doctor has taken just two podiums since joining Ducati and is presently sixth in the world championship.
Repsol Honda has signed Dani Pedrosa and Marc Marquez for next year, meaning Rossi's factory team options are restricted to either Yamaha or Ducati.
Rossi raced for Honda from 2000-2003 and a ride with a satellite RCV team remains theoretically possible, but would Rossi really be willing to settle for third-best - behind Pedrosa and Marquez - in the Honda pecking order?
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Stoner, Pedrosa give mixed verdict on 'new' RCV
"If we can have the new engine with the current chassis, it's the best combination” – Casey Stoner.
Repsol Honda riders Casey Stoner and Dani Pedrosa gave the 'completely new' version of the RC213V a mixed verdict during Monday's post-race test at Mugello.
The new engine and chassis, intended for 2013, was brought to Mugello to be evaluated as a potential race option for later this season.
HRC is battling to overcome chatter and front-tyre squashing issues with the latest Bridgestone rubber, as it seeks to get Pedrosa and Stoner back on terms with Yamaha's title leader Jorge Lorenzo.
The good news for Honda was that both riders liked the new engine. However only Pedrosa preferred the chassis and the Spaniard fell on just his third lap with the new bike due to a downshift error.
“We tested many things today and I'm happy because we found some positives with the new engine and also with the new chassis that can help us in the second part of the season,” said Pedrosa.
“I was really hoping for some improvements after the issues we have had with the extra weight, chattering and the front tyres and in this test we made a step forward.”
Both Pedrosa and Stoner set their best Monday laps on the 2012 bike. As in Sunday's race, Pedrosa was second to Lorenzo, with a best lap just 0.114s slower.
Pedrosa is hoping the new engine, at least, will be ready for the forthcoming Laguna Seca weekend and also seems open to trying the new chassis if available.
The Spaniard is currently 19 points behind countryman Lorenzo with nine of 18 rounds to go.
“Honda is working very hard and I'm sure they will do their best to be able to supply us the new parts for Laguna and the following races, but we'll see if it's possible with the engine allocations; anyway, it would be very good for us,” said Pedrosa.
“The engine is better into the corner, the engine brake is smoother and the bike is not so sharp when you close the throttle, so this helps you to get into the corner.
“I made my best lap time on my current bike; it's normal as I'm used to it. With the new bike I made a mistake shifting gears and I had a small crash on my third lap, so I couldn't do a longer run, but the feeling was also positive".
Reigning champion Stoner - who has gone from the joint title lead to 37 points from Lorenzo in the space of two races - hopes to fit the new engine into the present chassis for the US Grand Prix.
“We had a new engine and new chassis to test today. With the engine we found some improvements, a little smoother and some more power. As far as chassis goes I didn't find any real benefits, we tried many different things but couldn't get a better feeling,” declared Stoner.
“There were a few small areas that improved but nothing in terms of performance or for the lap time, just a marginally better feeling under braking.”
Stoner, who struggled throughout the Mugello weekend and finished eighth after running off track in the race, admitted he had been hoping for more.
“It wasn't really the test we were looking for, we had hoped to find something to help us get rid of the chatter and give us some more feeling in the middle of the corner but unfortunately we didn't find this,” he said.
“If we can have the new engine with the current chassis, it's the best combination, but we're not sure if we can have it in time for Laguna Seca, we'll have to wait and see".
Stoner was third quickest at the test, lapping within 0.116s of Lorenzo on his 47th and final lap of the day.
HRC executive vice president Shuhei Nakamoto pledged to do all he can to make the new engine available for the first American round from July 27-29.
"Both riders gave positive feedback with the new engine and we will do our best to provide it to them already next week in Laguna Seca,” he said.
“The new chassis has good points and bad points, Dani seems to like it and we will do our best to bring it for him at the next round. Casey doesn't find what he was looking for in this new chassis; to reduce the chatter.
"We have some more ideas to solve this and we will continue working to improve our machine but we can be reasonably happy of today's result."
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Valentino Rossi: New engine 'not ready', ECU fall
ECU glitch causes an early end to Valentino Rossi's Mugello test, new Ducati engine not expected until September.
Valentino Rossi's Monday test at Mugello proved something of a frustrating experience, as the Ducati star finally got his hands on some much-anticipated upgrades for the Ducati GP12 - only to miss out on valuable track time due to a technical glitch.
Updates 'to the chassis, in an effort to balance the weight distribution; to the engine, to improve rideability; and to the electronics' were all on offer.
However the full engine upgrade is not yet available and Rossi described Monday's developments as an 'intermediate step', centered around the engine management system, whilst awaiting the completion of 'substantial' changes.
“They had some things to try today, but it was mainly with an eye toward the future, as the substantial changes they're working on at Ducati for the engine's power delivery weren't ready yet,” explained Rossi.
“So this was an intermediate step, an interim engine management system through a new ECU. We started testing it this morning, and the first feelings were good, as I immediately did a good time with a used tyre.”
But the new ECU also caused the bike to stall at 4.00pm, resulting in a small fall. With the exact fault unclear, the decision was taken to end Rossi's test on safety grounds.
Rossi had completed just 23 laps, the best of which put him tenth on the timesheets, 1.130s behind Yamaha's Jorge Lorenzo.
“When I started again after the break, the bike stalled at the Correntaio and I fell,” recalled Rossi, fifth and one-second from the podium after a strong finish to Sunday's race.
“Fortunately, I was leaned over quite far at that point so I just tipped over, and nothing bad happened. In the interest of safety, we decided to stop because the engineers have to analyse the data to understand what happened.
“We also had some different parts for the chassis, but we weren't able to work with them much since we finished early. In the end, it wasn't a particularly productive day, although the first impression with this change was pretty good.”
It is not clear if Rossi will run the new ECU/engine management at the forthcoming Laguna Seca round, later this month, although the engines 'sealed' at that round will be able to accommodate future upgrades.
Ducati Corse technical director Filippo Preziosi indicated that the complete 'smoother' engine package, initially thought likely for Laguna Seca, should be ready for testing after September's Misano race.
“This morning, with Vale, we started to try some changes to the chassis, work aimed at concentrating the mass and balancing the weight,” he began. “Unfortunately, in the afternoon we had a problem with a hardware component, which we'll have to check now.
“Given that safety is the most important thing, we stopped his test. Therefore, we only have his first impression, but based on that, we'll continue with our schedule in order to bring some additional updates to the Misano test.”
Should the Misano test prove positive, the new Ducati engine could theoretically make its grand prix debut at the following Aragon event (round 14 of 18).
Rossi's team-mate Nicky Hayden - who recently warned that no major upgrades were expected for the US GP - was the top Ducati rider on Monday, in fourth and just 0.311s from Lorenzo, after completing 54 laps.
“We didn't really have anything major to try today, but it was important in the sense that it's the last time we'll test before my two home races,” said Hayden. “We tried some things with the settings, and Ohlins had a couple of ideas that we tested.
“We lost a pretty significant amount of time after Valentino had his problem because the guys wanted to check everything on my bike to make sure it was okay. At the end of the day I put in a soft tyre to see how fast I could go, but then I had a problem with the fuel pump.
“We ran out of time, but still, my best lap was about the same as my qualifying time, which is okay. At this level, as we get closer to the front, it gets harder to make big improvements, but we leave here encouraged.”
Ducati's development team will now remain at Mugello for further testing.
“With Nicky we didn't have the same [ECU] problem, and we were able continue the work,” said Preziosi. “In the next few days, our test team will go forward with the work started by the factory riders.”
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