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Yo, that explains it. Thanks.
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Sykes dips below Misano lap record during post-race test
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Australians Brookes and West make positive progress.
Source: Supplied.
Following Jonathan Rea’s double victory at Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli in round eight, the majority of the WorldSBK field was back in action on Monday for eight hours of official testing.
Recently re-signed Kawasaki Racing Team (KRT) rider Tom Sykes topped the timesheets as he ducked underneath Rea’s race lap record from last year, posting a lap time of 1m34.674s in the last breaths of the session.
An overnight thunderstorm left wet patches scattered around the circuit in the morning, meaning most of the meaningful running came later as the sun shone again and ambient temperatures soared into the high 20s.
Not only did the teams have their own programs to progress through, they also worked with sole WorldSBK tyre supplier Pirelli as the Italian company brought four new front tyres and three for the rear.
At KRT, there was an announcement that Sykes had re-signed with the team, thus remaining alongside Rea for at least another two seasons. At the test, both riders focused on 2017, specifically electronic settings and suspension ideas with supplier Showa.
Closest championship rivals Aruba.it Racing – Ducati were next up with Davide Giugliano, working with the new Pirelli tyres, as was teammate Chaz Davies who went sixth quickest but suffered a small crash at turn four during the last five minutes.
Fifth and sixth fastest were Leon Camier (MV Agusta Reparto Corse, focusing on chassis configuration and electronics) and Jordi Torres (Althea BMW Racing Team, with a modification to the front fork). Torres was joined by FIM Superstock 1000 Cup rider Raffaele de Rosa, as Markus Reiterberger remains on the sidelines following his heavy crash in race two.
Michael van der Mark was the leading Honda WorldSBK Team rider in seventh position and both he and tea-mate Nicky Hayden, who was 10th on the timesheets, ran with a new software code to dial out the issues suffered in recent rounds. Hayden also used the afternoon to try out new a changed geometry and steering angle as well as swingarm adjustments at the rear of the CBR1000RR SP.
Alex Lowes was eighth as the Pata Yamaha Official WorldSBK Team looked into engine upgrade development parts and chassis updates. However, the primary focus was to work on electronics strategies while Japanese MotoGP engineers remained alongside the team at this test.
For Lorenzo Savadori, mileage was the name of the game; the Italian admitted that he preferred dry conditions, even though he would have gone out should rain have fallen in order to hone his skills after having struggled in the rain-affected Rounds at Assen and Sepang earlier this season. Like Torres, Savadori did suffer a harmless fall during the course of the day.
Australian Josh Brookes made progress aboard the Milwaukee BMW in 13th place on the timesheets at the end of testing, while Anthony West completed the test with Pedercini Kawasaki in 15th. He will continue with the squad at Laguna Seca.
There was a new face at Team Toth as Superstock 1000 rider Luca Marconi rode alongside Pawel Szkopek, while Dominic Schmitter was highly enthusiastic as he and the Grillini Racing Team mechanics received a 2016 Kawasaki ZX-10R for the first time.
At Team GOELEVEN, Roman Ramos experimented with a new shock absorber, whereas Xavi Fores did not feature as his Barni Racing Team left the venue in order to focus its attentions on the next Italian national championship round. Nevertheless, Marco Barnabo’s squad had already tested at Misano prior to weekend’s races.
The WorldSBK race action will continue in the Geico US Round at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca on the weekend of 8-10 July.
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Section: Racing Post: Alex Gobert
Australians Brookes and West make positive progress.
Source: Supplied.
Following Jonathan Rea’s double victory at Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli in round eight, the majority of the WorldSBK field was back in action on Monday for eight hours of official testing.
Recently re-signed Kawasaki Racing Team (KRT) rider Tom Sykes topped the timesheets as he ducked underneath Rea’s race lap record from last year, posting a lap time of 1m34.674s in the last breaths of the session.
An overnight thunderstorm left wet patches scattered around the circuit in the morning, meaning most of the meaningful running came later as the sun shone again and ambient temperatures soared into the high 20s.
Not only did the teams have their own programs to progress through, they also worked with sole WorldSBK tyre supplier Pirelli as the Italian company brought four new front tyres and three for the rear.
At KRT, there was an announcement that Sykes had re-signed with the team, thus remaining alongside Rea for at least another two seasons. At the test, both riders focused on 2017, specifically electronic settings and suspension ideas with supplier Showa.
Closest championship rivals Aruba.it Racing – Ducati were next up with Davide Giugliano, working with the new Pirelli tyres, as was teammate Chaz Davies who went sixth quickest but suffered a small crash at turn four during the last five minutes.
Fifth and sixth fastest were Leon Camier (MV Agusta Reparto Corse, focusing on chassis configuration and electronics) and Jordi Torres (Althea BMW Racing Team, with a modification to the front fork). Torres was joined by FIM Superstock 1000 Cup rider Raffaele de Rosa, as Markus Reiterberger remains on the sidelines following his heavy crash in race two.
Michael van der Mark was the leading Honda WorldSBK Team rider in seventh position and both he and tea-mate Nicky Hayden, who was 10th on the timesheets, ran with a new software code to dial out the issues suffered in recent rounds. Hayden also used the afternoon to try out new a changed geometry and steering angle as well as swingarm adjustments at the rear of the CBR1000RR SP.
Alex Lowes was eighth as the Pata Yamaha Official WorldSBK Team looked into engine upgrade development parts and chassis updates. However, the primary focus was to work on electronics strategies while Japanese MotoGP engineers remained alongside the team at this test.
For Lorenzo Savadori, mileage was the name of the game; the Italian admitted that he preferred dry conditions, even though he would have gone out should rain have fallen in order to hone his skills after having struggled in the rain-affected Rounds at Assen and Sepang earlier this season. Like Torres, Savadori did suffer a harmless fall during the course of the day.
Australian Josh Brookes made progress aboard the Milwaukee BMW in 13th place on the timesheets at the end of testing, while Anthony West completed the test with Pedercini Kawasaki in 15th. He will continue with the squad at Laguna Seca.
There was a new face at Team Toth as Superstock 1000 rider Luca Marconi rode alongside Pawel Szkopek, while Dominic Schmitter was highly enthusiastic as he and the Grillini Racing Team mechanics received a 2016 Kawasaki ZX-10R for the first time.
At Team GOELEVEN, Roman Ramos experimented with a new shock absorber, whereas Xavi Fores did not feature as his Barni Racing Team left the venue in order to focus its attentions on the next Italian national championship round. Nevertheless, Marco Barnabo’s squad had already tested at Misano prior to weekend’s races.
The WorldSBK race action will continue in the Geico US Round at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca on the weekend of 8-10 July.
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MotoGP Netherlands: Dovizioso: Rossi has pace, but we can fight
25 June 2016
'Our pace is not like Valentino's, who I think is the fastest in the dry tomorrow. But I think we are very close and this is really good' - Andrea Dovizioso.
Dutch TT pole man Andrea Dovizioso feels Valentino Rossi has the strongest pace for Sunday's race at Assen, but the Italian rider is optimistic he can put up a fight at the Cathedral.
Dovizioso topped the times in the damp Q2 session by seven-tenths-of-a-second from Rossi but was also fastest in the dry on Saturday in FP3.
The factory Ducati rider knows he has the speed to set fast laps, but Dovizioso is seeking a little more consistency in the closing stages of the race with his GP16 to enable him to finish strongly.
“I'm so happy how we worked during the weekend because we didn't expect to have this speed. Still, our pace is not like Valentino's, who I think is the fastest in the dry tomorrow,” Dovi said.
“But I think we are very close and this is really good, especially after a bad weekend like we have in Barcelona.
“I'm happy with our speed but still we need a little bit of the consistency to really fight until the end in the race. It's very important to have the speed and work in the small details for the race.”
Dovizioso altered his qualifying strategy after initially only planning one time attack and ultimately it paid off as he exited pit lane behind Rossi.
“Our strategy was to just make one exit, but after two laps I decided to change the strategy, also because I did a good lap time. With just one lap possible in the last run it was better to try to change the rear tyre and it worked,” he said.
“I was also lucky to exit behind Valentino and it was quite easy to do the lap time because I also had a reference.”
FP4 saw a number of fallers in the challenging conditions at Assen but Dovizioso said the session served as an important yardstick ahead of final qualifying.
“It was very difficult for everybody today, especially because before the qualifying in FP4 there were a lot of crashes; I almost crashed and it was very difficult to manage the front,” Dovizioso said.
“But that practice was very important to prepare for the qualifying for us and we changed the set-up. The conditions were really different in the qualifying and apart from the spin we have in the wet it was very important to understand quickly the changes in the track, because it became dry very quick.”
The MotoGP riders have little experience of riding with the Michelin tyres in the wet and Dovi admitted there were positives and negatives, highlighting rear grip as particularly impressive.
“[There are] positive and negatives. For example, today the grip on the rear was so good but it was difficult to manage the front, so like always when there is a change of the rules you have to manage the situation,” he said.
“FP4 showed the reality of the grip with the rear and we changed the set-up from that and also I changed a little bit the way I ride the bike, when I understood the different grip balance from the front to the rear.”
Dovizioso will be making the fifth pole start of his career in the premier class and his fourth for Ducati, the most recent of which was in Qatar last season.
Read more at Dovizioso: Rossi has pace, but we can fight | MotoGP News
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MotoGP bans wings from 2017
25 June 2016
'With effect from the 2017, the use of aerodynamic wings in the MotoGP class will be banned'
MotoGP bans wings from 2017
UPDATE: It appears that the ban on winglets was made after the MSMA (Manufacturers' Association) failed to reach agreement on a proposal for the future of the devices.
With Ducati strongly opposed to a ban - and no hard evidence to prove they are dangerous - a set of regulations regarding the size, shape, location and detachment of the wings had been under discussion within the MSMA.
But it seems a state of deadlock was reached, prompting the Grand Prix Commission to impose a simple 'yes' or 'no' vote on whether to ban wings. A 'unanimous agreement' by the Commission means all four parties voted for a ban, but does not mean that all the individual MSMA members wanted a ban.
Had a technical proposal for wing regulations been unanimously agreed upon by the MSMA members it would not have been opposed by the rest of the Grand Prix Commission - as is always the case for technical matters.
MotoGP will ban the use of aerodynamic wings from 2017.
After a meeting of the Grand Prix Commission - Dorna, FIM, IRTA and MSMA - on Saturday at Assen, the following statement was issued:
"The Commission unanimously agreed that unanimously agreed that, with effect from the 2017, the use of aerodynamic wings in the MotoGP class will be banned.
"The actual regulation will replicate those for the Moto3 and Moto2 classes where the use of wings is already prohibited.
“Wings that comply with current technical regulations may continue to be used for the remainder of the 2016 season.”
The main purpose of the winglets is to generate downforce at the front of the bike during acceleration, thus reducing the amount of wheelie without needing to cut engine output.
However some riders have expressed safety concerns due to the risk of a 'slicing' injury, plus the unsettling turbulence created for following riders, while others warned of spiralling development costs.
The safety and cost arguments have been challenged by Ducati, which debuted the latest generation of winglets at the start of 2015 and has been at the forefront of the technology ever since.
Nevertheless, there have long been rumours that winglets could be banned, as already occurred in the Moto2 and Moto3 classes, if the manufacturers could not agree on a proposal to satisfy the concerns.
Yamaha joined Ducati in using winglets late last season, Honda held its winglet debut at the 2016 Qatar test, while Suzuki and Aprilia made it a clean sweep of all five manufacturers with winglets available at Jerez in April.
By Peter McLaren
Read more at MotoGP bans wings from 2017 | MotoGP News
MotoGP Netherlands: Dovizioso: Rossi has pace, but we can fight
25 June 2016
'Our pace is not like Valentino's, who I think is the fastest in the dry tomorrow. But I think we are very close and this is really good' - Andrea Dovizioso.
Dutch TT pole man Andrea Dovizioso feels Valentino Rossi has the strongest pace for Sunday's race at Assen, but the Italian rider is optimistic he can put up a fight at the Cathedral.
Dovizioso topped the times in the damp Q2 session by seven-tenths-of-a-second from Rossi but was also fastest in the dry on Saturday in FP3.
The factory Ducati rider knows he has the speed to set fast laps, but Dovizioso is seeking a little more consistency in the closing stages of the race with his GP16 to enable him to finish strongly.
“I'm so happy how we worked during the weekend because we didn't expect to have this speed. Still, our pace is not like Valentino's, who I think is the fastest in the dry tomorrow,” Dovi said.
“But I think we are very close and this is really good, especially after a bad weekend like we have in Barcelona.
“I'm happy with our speed but still we need a little bit of the consistency to really fight until the end in the race. It's very important to have the speed and work in the small details for the race.”
Dovizioso altered his qualifying strategy after initially only planning one time attack and ultimately it paid off as he exited pit lane behind Rossi.
“Our strategy was to just make one exit, but after two laps I decided to change the strategy, also because I did a good lap time. With just one lap possible in the last run it was better to try to change the rear tyre and it worked,” he said.
“I was also lucky to exit behind Valentino and it was quite easy to do the lap time because I also had a reference.”
FP4 saw a number of fallers in the challenging conditions at Assen but Dovizioso said the session served as an important yardstick ahead of final qualifying.
“It was very difficult for everybody today, especially because before the qualifying in FP4 there were a lot of crashes; I almost crashed and it was very difficult to manage the front,” Dovizioso said.
“But that practice was very important to prepare for the qualifying for us and we changed the set-up. The conditions were really different in the qualifying and apart from the spin we have in the wet it was very important to understand quickly the changes in the track, because it became dry very quick.”
The MotoGP riders have little experience of riding with the Michelin tyres in the wet and Dovi admitted there were positives and negatives, highlighting rear grip as particularly impressive.
“[There are] positive and negatives. For example, today the grip on the rear was so good but it was difficult to manage the front, so like always when there is a change of the rules you have to manage the situation,” he said.
“FP4 showed the reality of the grip with the rear and we changed the set-up from that and also I changed a little bit the way I ride the bike, when I understood the different grip balance from the front to the rear.”
Dovizioso will be making the fifth pole start of his career in the premier class and his fourth for Ducati, the most recent of which was in Qatar last season.
Read more at Dovizioso: Rossi has pace, but we can fight | MotoGP News
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MotoGP bans wings from 2017
25 June 2016
'With effect from the 2017, the use of aerodynamic wings in the MotoGP class will be banned'
MotoGP bans wings from 2017
UPDATE: It appears that the ban on winglets was made after the MSMA (Manufacturers' Association) failed to reach agreement on a proposal for the future of the devices.
With Ducati strongly opposed to a ban - and no hard evidence to prove they are dangerous - a set of regulations regarding the size, shape, location and detachment of the wings had been under discussion within the MSMA.
But it seems a state of deadlock was reached, prompting the Grand Prix Commission to impose a simple 'yes' or 'no' vote on whether to ban wings. A 'unanimous agreement' by the Commission means all four parties voted for a ban, but does not mean that all the individual MSMA members wanted a ban.
Had a technical proposal for wing regulations been unanimously agreed upon by the MSMA members it would not have been opposed by the rest of the Grand Prix Commission - as is always the case for technical matters.
MotoGP will ban the use of aerodynamic wings from 2017.
After a meeting of the Grand Prix Commission - Dorna, FIM, IRTA and MSMA - on Saturday at Assen, the following statement was issued:
"The Commission unanimously agreed that unanimously agreed that, with effect from the 2017, the use of aerodynamic wings in the MotoGP class will be banned.
"The actual regulation will replicate those for the Moto3 and Moto2 classes where the use of wings is already prohibited.
“Wings that comply with current technical regulations may continue to be used for the remainder of the 2016 season.”
The main purpose of the winglets is to generate downforce at the front of the bike during acceleration, thus reducing the amount of wheelie without needing to cut engine output.
However some riders have expressed safety concerns due to the risk of a 'slicing' injury, plus the unsettling turbulence created for following riders, while others warned of spiralling development costs.
The safety and cost arguments have been challenged by Ducati, which debuted the latest generation of winglets at the start of 2015 and has been at the forefront of the technology ever since.
Nevertheless, there have long been rumours that winglets could be banned, as already occurred in the Moto2 and Moto3 classes, if the manufacturers could not agree on a proposal to satisfy the concerns.
Yamaha joined Ducati in using winglets late last season, Honda held its winglet debut at the 2016 Qatar test, while Suzuki and Aprilia made it a clean sweep of all five manufacturers with winglets available at Jerez in April.
By Peter McLaren
Read more at MotoGP bans wings from 2017 | MotoGP News
Ryder Notes: (Super) Man Outwits Computer.
by julian ryder on the ground in where they put mayo on fries
Saturday, June 25, 2016
Marc Marquez: his reactions and talent meant he can overcome top level computer systems.
image by THE Marco Guidetti
Consider this: In Free Practice today, Marc Marquez locked his front wheel under braking for Assen's first corner. Enough smoke came off the tyre for me to initially think the motor and siezed and locked the rear. The bike slewed and the forks hit the lock stops. He saved it. He saved a 'crash' that left a 20-metre black line the shape of a question-mark on the Tarmac and set his airbag off.
Consider this. The algorithm that controls deployment of the airbag has been developed to detect a crash starting and deploy the bag before the rider hits the ground. In the early days you couldn't use them in the wet because the bike moved around too much and the software wasn't sophisticated enough to tell the difference between a crash and a wobble. Nowadays, the accelerometers, gyros and ECU have your collarbones safely wrapped in a bouncy castle before your brain has registered the fact that you are no longer on a motorcycle.
Effectively, Marc Marquez's reactions were quick enough to be outside the parameters that AlpineStars' design engineers have spent many years and millions of bytes calculating. Consider that.
Then he crashed in qualifying. He was running to the fence before the bike stopped moving and when he got there saw a scooter with the keys in. Happily, it was a Honda. He asked the photographer it belonged to if he could take it, but later admitted he'd have taken it anyway.
By the way, Dovi got pole, Ducati's first since Mugello last year with Rossi second. That's experience for you on a drying track that changed significantly but never quite got dry enough for slicks. Iannnone tried intermediates and they didn't work either. The surprise was Scott Redding on last year's Ducati taking his first front row start. It probably won't matter anyway, the weather tomorrow promises to be even worse than today. I'd still put my money on experience though.
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by julian ryder on the ground in where they put mayo on fries
Saturday, June 25, 2016
Marc Marquez: his reactions and talent meant he can overcome top level computer systems.
image by THE Marco Guidetti
Consider this: In Free Practice today, Marc Marquez locked his front wheel under braking for Assen's first corner. Enough smoke came off the tyre for me to initially think the motor and siezed and locked the rear. The bike slewed and the forks hit the lock stops. He saved it. He saved a 'crash' that left a 20-metre black line the shape of a question-mark on the Tarmac and set his airbag off.
Consider this. The algorithm that controls deployment of the airbag has been developed to detect a crash starting and deploy the bag before the rider hits the ground. In the early days you couldn't use them in the wet because the bike moved around too much and the software wasn't sophisticated enough to tell the difference between a crash and a wobble. Nowadays, the accelerometers, gyros and ECU have your collarbones safely wrapped in a bouncy castle before your brain has registered the fact that you are no longer on a motorcycle.
Effectively, Marc Marquez's reactions were quick enough to be outside the parameters that AlpineStars' design engineers have spent many years and millions of bytes calculating. Consider that.
Then he crashed in qualifying. He was running to the fence before the bike stopped moving and when he got there saw a scooter with the keys in. Happily, it was a Honda. He asked the photographer it belonged to if he could take it, but later admitted he'd have taken it anyway.
By the way, Dovi got pole, Ducati's first since Mugello last year with Rossi second. That's experience for you on a drying track that changed significantly but never quite got dry enough for slicks. Iannnone tried intermediates and they didn't work either. The surprise was Scott Redding on last year's Ducati taking his first front row start. It probably won't matter anyway, the weather tomorrow promises to be even worse than today. I'd still put my money on experience though.
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MotoGP: Jack Miller: I can’t deal with any more emotions!
27 June 2016
“Just getting the win feels good enough. I can't deal with any more emotions!” - Jack Miller ends MotoGP's factory domination of race wins.
MotoGP: Jack Miller: I can’t deal with any more emotions!
Jack Miller began Sunday's Dutch TT with a best MotoGP race finish of eleventh.
The 21-year-old finished it as the first non-factory rider to win a MotoGP race since Toni Elias at Estoril in 2006, having splashing to a brilliant debut victory for both himself and the Marc VDS team in a restarted race.
“Just getting the win feels good enough. I can't deal with any more emotions!” said Miller, when asked about ending the decade-long satellite win drought. “It's an amazing feeling to do this for myself and the Marc VDS team. We've been through some tough stuff this year with me breaking my leg and Tito breaking his collarbone.
“We've been working so hard and to get it done here is an amazing thing. I had some good luck in Moto3 here and also some bad luck, I probably lost my championship here. It's a special place for me and a great track.”
The Australian admitted he had been more than happy to settle for ninth place when the original race was halted by torrential race. “I was really content with that. I thought, 'Shit! Why are they restarting it?'”
The weather conditions had improved enough for a 12-lap restart, which saw Miller sensationally pass double world champion Marc Marquez and take the lead on lap 4. Miller then kept the factory Honda rider at bay to the chequered flag to become MotoGP's first new winner since Ben Spies, at the same circuit, in 2011.
“I saw Marc wasn't in the mood to fight back. Or he didn't have to fight back, probably because he thought I was going to throw it down the road three corners later! Then I tried to manage the gap as best I could.
“In the last four laps I was just waiting for it to be over. I knew he wasn't really coming back to me and I was just trying to stay on two wheels. On the last lap I was thinking of Vermeulen when he won [in the wet at Le Mans in 2007], all those guys.
“To get the first one out of the way is nice. I might be on another dry spell after this, that's for sure.
“We were lucky today with the rain. But all weekend we've been getting faster and faster. It happened before in Mugello and Barcelona. We were unlucky there. We've changed a lot the structure and how we work in the team.
“I've also been working crazy hard on my physical condition to become more of an athlete as well. I have to thank Cal. He can be credited with this as well.
“Today being calm also paid off. I put myself in a good position. I was quite comfortable doing that pace and I didn't have to do anything crazy.”
But that doesn't mean the Australian has suddenly become risk averse.
“I drove here from Andorra with my bike in the back of the van and I'm going to do motocross this week. If you see me with a broken leg next week, you'll know what happened!”
Miller broke his right leg in January while training on a motocross bike.
The Australian, who began the race just 21st out of the 22 point scorers in the world championship standings, is now up to 13th position.
Read more at Miller: I can’t deal with any more emotions! | MotoGP News
dont moan to me about the shitty vid I looked for ages to find a good one and this was the best I cold find. Anyway if you followed the sport you would have watched live . . .
MotoGP: Jack Miller: I can’t deal with any more emotions!
27 June 2016
“Just getting the win feels good enough. I can't deal with any more emotions!” - Jack Miller ends MotoGP's factory domination of race wins.
MotoGP: Jack Miller: I can’t deal with any more emotions!
Jack Miller began Sunday's Dutch TT with a best MotoGP race finish of eleventh.
The 21-year-old finished it as the first non-factory rider to win a MotoGP race since Toni Elias at Estoril in 2006, having splashing to a brilliant debut victory for both himself and the Marc VDS team in a restarted race.
“Just getting the win feels good enough. I can't deal with any more emotions!” said Miller, when asked about ending the decade-long satellite win drought. “It's an amazing feeling to do this for myself and the Marc VDS team. We've been through some tough stuff this year with me breaking my leg and Tito breaking his collarbone.
“We've been working so hard and to get it done here is an amazing thing. I had some good luck in Moto3 here and also some bad luck, I probably lost my championship here. It's a special place for me and a great track.”
The Australian admitted he had been more than happy to settle for ninth place when the original race was halted by torrential race. “I was really content with that. I thought, 'Shit! Why are they restarting it?'”
The weather conditions had improved enough for a 12-lap restart, which saw Miller sensationally pass double world champion Marc Marquez and take the lead on lap 4. Miller then kept the factory Honda rider at bay to the chequered flag to become MotoGP's first new winner since Ben Spies, at the same circuit, in 2011.
“I saw Marc wasn't in the mood to fight back. Or he didn't have to fight back, probably because he thought I was going to throw it down the road three corners later! Then I tried to manage the gap as best I could.
“In the last four laps I was just waiting for it to be over. I knew he wasn't really coming back to me and I was just trying to stay on two wheels. On the last lap I was thinking of Vermeulen when he won [in the wet at Le Mans in 2007], all those guys.
“To get the first one out of the way is nice. I might be on another dry spell after this, that's for sure.
“We were lucky today with the rain. But all weekend we've been getting faster and faster. It happened before in Mugello and Barcelona. We were unlucky there. We've changed a lot the structure and how we work in the team.
“I've also been working crazy hard on my physical condition to become more of an athlete as well. I have to thank Cal. He can be credited with this as well.
“Today being calm also paid off. I put myself in a good position. I was quite comfortable doing that pace and I didn't have to do anything crazy.”
But that doesn't mean the Australian has suddenly become risk averse.
“I drove here from Andorra with my bike in the back of the van and I'm going to do motocross this week. If you see me with a broken leg next week, you'll know what happened!”
Miller broke his right leg in January while training on a motocross bike.
The Australian, who began the race just 21st out of the 22 point scorers in the world championship standings, is now up to 13th position.
Read more at Miller: I can’t deal with any more emotions! | MotoGP News
dont moan to me about the shitty vid I looked for ages to find a good one and this was the best I cold find. Anyway if you followed the sport you would have watched live . . .
Miller may have won the race and turned the moto world into a tizzy for the last 72hrs. but the best race by far of the whole meet was the Moto3 race I cant find a decent vid but this one is the best I can get watch for the crash in the chicane gravel trap where one 250 hits the spinning one in the air then picks up his bike and tries to continue the race. Gutsy effort.
A Jackass joins the Aussie pantheon!
by Mat Oxley on 28th June 2016
Jack Miller’s win was hugely popular and richly deserved, but do MotoGP’s interrupted-race regulations need rewriting?
As I wrote last week, stuff happens at Assen.
Jack Miller’s win was a fairy-tale: a young man who rides it like he stole it and made the next-to-impossible happen at a tricky track in tricky conditions. Since last year the 21-year-old Aussie has often been criticised for riding over his head – “I do get a little too excited sometimes” – but his ride on Sunday was inch-perfect at a slippery track with conditions changing on every lap and at every corner.
It was so refreshing to see young, humble, Jackass (his own words) shed a tear on the podium, sup his victory champagne (cava, in fact) from one of his boots, then get the entire post-podium press conference rolling around with laughter. It was just like the good ol’ days of Kevin Schwantz, Wayne Rainey and the rest, when jokes, friendly abuse and not-so-friendly abuse were what happened.
When nine-time world champion Valentino Rossi crashed out of first place he handed the lead to twice MotoGP champ Marc Marquez, who immediately got a pit-board telling him that Miller was closing in on him, like something from the Jaws movie. Marquez grinned, “my first picture was Jack and Cal at Silverstone last year!” (When an over-excited Miller took out team-mate Crutchlow in the rain-lashed British GP.) To which Miller replied, quick as a flash, “You were lucky!”
Miller also suggested that if he’d been able to watch himself leave Marquez trailing, he would’ve thought “that dickhead’s going to crash in two minutes”, before more generously conceding to himself that “this makes it clear that we know how to ride a motorbike – I’m not an idiot!”
With no title to worry about, Miller pushed hard to take the lead from championship leader Marquez, who knew it made no sense going after a young man chasing his first MotoGP gong. “This morning my team told me, please finish the race, please finish the race, please finish the race, about 40 times,” laughed Marquez, so he did.
Miller’s unexpected success triggered joyous celebrations in the Marc VDS hospitality unit, where there’s been nothing to celebrate all year. I figured it might be a fun night, so I finished my work in a hurry and headed down there.
A few facts first. MotoGP teams don’t party in the paddock any more. That stopped decades ago. Most riders no longer cut loose in the paddock on Sunday nights to celebrate their survival; most of them cut and run for their private jets and tax havens.
It was sweet mayhem at Marc VDS when I arrived. Jack was in the thick of it, pulling pints at the bar (definitely not 0,0 Estrella Galicia) for everyone from team mechanics to Jeremy McWilliams (250cc winner at a damp Assen in 2001) who had just finished second in a KTM support race. Then Jackass upped the pace and cracked open a bottle of mescal (tequila, if you prefer) which emptied at an unfeasible rate, leaving the mescal worm sitting alone at the bottom. Jack is as unpretentious as they come, a sweet bloke, unless you share a hire car with him, so he freed the worm from its glassy grave and gobbled it down. Protein is an important ingredient of a racer’s diet.
Paddock people came to congratulate the youngster, from pissed-up fans to Michelin race boss Nicolas Goubert. Jack received them all with the same sense of bonhomie. This was an inclusive show, not a VIP party.
It felt like a time machine had flown me back to the late 1980s and early 1990s, when every hospitality unit (tents in those days) hosted a Sunday evening knees-up, to celebrate the conclusion of another high-stress, high-pressure, high-risk weekend. Particularly memorable was Le Mans 1991, when Marlboro Yamaha team owner ‘King’ Kenny Roberts ended up in one hell of a mess while celebrating Rainey’s second 500cc title.
This concept of closure made perfect sense: mechanics had worked their fingers to the bone, riders had risked more in three days than most people do in a lifetime; so some kind of a safety valve needed to be opened before these people could be released back into normal society on Monday morning.
This was always the way it was in the days of Rainey, Schwantz, Mick Doohan and Wayne Gardner. Sometimes the promoters gave riders cans of beer during the post-race press conference – some way to rehydrate!
There was a rarely a Monday when we didn’t wake up late, heads throbbing from the previous night’s stupidities, before making a mad, sickly dash to the nearest airport to fly home.
I think I may visit Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta at the Sachsenring to suggest he instigates Sunday night paddock lock-ins, with no one allowed out until Monday morning, so riders can drink, make merry and lie to each other about how brave they were.
So, I salute Miller for his victory and I salute all his people who worked so hard to achieve this great act of giant-killing. Whatever else happens in his career – and I hope much more good stuff happens, because he’s a joy to have around – nothing can take away what he did on Sunday. He is now in the motorcycle racing pantheon, joining fellow Aussie premier-class winners Doohan, Casey Stoner, Gardner, Daryl Beattie, Jack Findlay, Garry McCoy, ‘Happy’ Jack Ahearn, Troy Bayliss, Ken Kavanagh, Kevin Magee and Chris Vermeulen.
In no way do I seek to diminish Miller’s wonderful achievement, but if MotoGP’s interrupted race regulations weren’t such a joke, he would not have won the race.
Consider what happened. Riders started the 26-lap race on rain tyres. A dry line began to appear, then the rain came back with a vengeance, with riders fighting 180mph aquaplaning and barely able to see the rev counter, let alone the racetrack. During those few laps they probably took more risks than they’d taken during the year’s previous seven races. As Scott Redding, said “I feared for my life.”
Finally, after 14 laps the red flags came out. It was the right decision because aquaplaning off a track at 180mph is unlikely to end well. But the race wasn’t restarted.
According to the rule book, the first race was annulled, like it had never even happened, so the riders had simply ridden through a bad dream, all the risks they’d taken during 14 arse-puckering laps had been nothing more than a hallucination. Luckily no one lay in hospital with an injury sustained in a race that had never happened. As Rainey said after a similar situation transpired at Spa-Francorchamps in 1989, “I can’t believe I just risked my life for absolutely nothing.”
According to the rules a new race was started once the torrential rain had subsided, with riders starting from the positions in which they had finished the first race, or qualifying session, if you prefer.
Conditions were still treacherous. Miller, Marquez, Redding and the rest once again took huge risks. So too did Rossi, Dovizioso, Cal Crutchlow, Bradley Smith, Dani Pedrosa, Yonny Hernandez and many others, except theirs didn’t work out.
The race lasted 12 laps, to bring the total laps to the originally planned 26 laps. Miller was the deserved winner, Marquez second, Redding third. So a 12-lap race took precedence over a 14-lap race.
In the old days, interrupted races were restarted and the result decided by adding times from both starts, so every risk and every genius move was rewarded.
The problem was the fans, or at least that’s what right-holders Dorna believed. The theory went that fans would find the concept of combined times too complicated, perhaps encouraging them to change channels and watch football, which would hurt Dorna profits.
I kind of understood that argument. But nowadays on-board transponders deliver lap times and rider positions several times a lap, which can keep fans fully up to date, second by second.
A Jackass joins the Aussie pantheon!
by Mat Oxley on 28th June 2016
Jack Miller’s win was hugely popular and richly deserved, but do MotoGP’s interrupted-race regulations need rewriting?
As I wrote last week, stuff happens at Assen.
Jack Miller’s win was a fairy-tale: a young man who rides it like he stole it and made the next-to-impossible happen at a tricky track in tricky conditions. Since last year the 21-year-old Aussie has often been criticised for riding over his head – “I do get a little too excited sometimes” – but his ride on Sunday was inch-perfect at a slippery track with conditions changing on every lap and at every corner.
It was so refreshing to see young, humble, Jackass (his own words) shed a tear on the podium, sup his victory champagne (cava, in fact) from one of his boots, then get the entire post-podium press conference rolling around with laughter. It was just like the good ol’ days of Kevin Schwantz, Wayne Rainey and the rest, when jokes, friendly abuse and not-so-friendly abuse were what happened.
When nine-time world champion Valentino Rossi crashed out of first place he handed the lead to twice MotoGP champ Marc Marquez, who immediately got a pit-board telling him that Miller was closing in on him, like something from the Jaws movie. Marquez grinned, “my first picture was Jack and Cal at Silverstone last year!” (When an over-excited Miller took out team-mate Crutchlow in the rain-lashed British GP.) To which Miller replied, quick as a flash, “You were lucky!”
Miller also suggested that if he’d been able to watch himself leave Marquez trailing, he would’ve thought “that dickhead’s going to crash in two minutes”, before more generously conceding to himself that “this makes it clear that we know how to ride a motorbike – I’m not an idiot!”
With no title to worry about, Miller pushed hard to take the lead from championship leader Marquez, who knew it made no sense going after a young man chasing his first MotoGP gong. “This morning my team told me, please finish the race, please finish the race, please finish the race, about 40 times,” laughed Marquez, so he did.
Miller’s unexpected success triggered joyous celebrations in the Marc VDS hospitality unit, where there’s been nothing to celebrate all year. I figured it might be a fun night, so I finished my work in a hurry and headed down there.
A few facts first. MotoGP teams don’t party in the paddock any more. That stopped decades ago. Most riders no longer cut loose in the paddock on Sunday nights to celebrate their survival; most of them cut and run for their private jets and tax havens.
It was sweet mayhem at Marc VDS when I arrived. Jack was in the thick of it, pulling pints at the bar (definitely not 0,0 Estrella Galicia) for everyone from team mechanics to Jeremy McWilliams (250cc winner at a damp Assen in 2001) who had just finished second in a KTM support race. Then Jackass upped the pace and cracked open a bottle of mescal (tequila, if you prefer) which emptied at an unfeasible rate, leaving the mescal worm sitting alone at the bottom. Jack is as unpretentious as they come, a sweet bloke, unless you share a hire car with him, so he freed the worm from its glassy grave and gobbled it down. Protein is an important ingredient of a racer’s diet.
Paddock people came to congratulate the youngster, from pissed-up fans to Michelin race boss Nicolas Goubert. Jack received them all with the same sense of bonhomie. This was an inclusive show, not a VIP party.
It felt like a time machine had flown me back to the late 1980s and early 1990s, when every hospitality unit (tents in those days) hosted a Sunday evening knees-up, to celebrate the conclusion of another high-stress, high-pressure, high-risk weekend. Particularly memorable was Le Mans 1991, when Marlboro Yamaha team owner ‘King’ Kenny Roberts ended up in one hell of a mess while celebrating Rainey’s second 500cc title.
This concept of closure made perfect sense: mechanics had worked their fingers to the bone, riders had risked more in three days than most people do in a lifetime; so some kind of a safety valve needed to be opened before these people could be released back into normal society on Monday morning.
This was always the way it was in the days of Rainey, Schwantz, Mick Doohan and Wayne Gardner. Sometimes the promoters gave riders cans of beer during the post-race press conference – some way to rehydrate!
There was a rarely a Monday when we didn’t wake up late, heads throbbing from the previous night’s stupidities, before making a mad, sickly dash to the nearest airport to fly home.
I think I may visit Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta at the Sachsenring to suggest he instigates Sunday night paddock lock-ins, with no one allowed out until Monday morning, so riders can drink, make merry and lie to each other about how brave they were.
So, I salute Miller for his victory and I salute all his people who worked so hard to achieve this great act of giant-killing. Whatever else happens in his career – and I hope much more good stuff happens, because he’s a joy to have around – nothing can take away what he did on Sunday. He is now in the motorcycle racing pantheon, joining fellow Aussie premier-class winners Doohan, Casey Stoner, Gardner, Daryl Beattie, Jack Findlay, Garry McCoy, ‘Happy’ Jack Ahearn, Troy Bayliss, Ken Kavanagh, Kevin Magee and Chris Vermeulen.
In no way do I seek to diminish Miller’s wonderful achievement, but if MotoGP’s interrupted race regulations weren’t such a joke, he would not have won the race.
Consider what happened. Riders started the 26-lap race on rain tyres. A dry line began to appear, then the rain came back with a vengeance, with riders fighting 180mph aquaplaning and barely able to see the rev counter, let alone the racetrack. During those few laps they probably took more risks than they’d taken during the year’s previous seven races. As Scott Redding, said “I feared for my life.”
Finally, after 14 laps the red flags came out. It was the right decision because aquaplaning off a track at 180mph is unlikely to end well. But the race wasn’t restarted.
According to the rule book, the first race was annulled, like it had never even happened, so the riders had simply ridden through a bad dream, all the risks they’d taken during 14 arse-puckering laps had been nothing more than a hallucination. Luckily no one lay in hospital with an injury sustained in a race that had never happened. As Rainey said after a similar situation transpired at Spa-Francorchamps in 1989, “I can’t believe I just risked my life for absolutely nothing.”
According to the rules a new race was started once the torrential rain had subsided, with riders starting from the positions in which they had finished the first race, or qualifying session, if you prefer.
Conditions were still treacherous. Miller, Marquez, Redding and the rest once again took huge risks. So too did Rossi, Dovizioso, Cal Crutchlow, Bradley Smith, Dani Pedrosa, Yonny Hernandez and many others, except theirs didn’t work out.
The race lasted 12 laps, to bring the total laps to the originally planned 26 laps. Miller was the deserved winner, Marquez second, Redding third. So a 12-lap race took precedence over a 14-lap race.
In the old days, interrupted races were restarted and the result decided by adding times from both starts, so every risk and every genius move was rewarded.
The problem was the fans, or at least that’s what right-holders Dorna believed. The theory went that fans would find the concept of combined times too complicated, perhaps encouraging them to change channels and watch football, which would hurt Dorna profits.
I kind of understood that argument. But nowadays on-board transponders deliver lap times and rider positions several times a lap, which can keep fans fully up to date, second by second.
A Jackass joins the Aussie pantheon!
Combining times for both Sunday’s races would’ve given us this result: Marquez (26m 26.059s plus 22m 19.43s) in first place, five seconds ahead of Redding (26m 22.39s plus 22m 23.353s) in second with Miller (26m 30.655s plus 22m 17.447s) in third, two seconds further back. Miller would’ve had less of a hangover on Monday, but not much less of one.
What kind of a fan would find a race of combined times that hard to follow? Any half-decent commentator would be able to communicate the situation and in fact make the race even more exciting. How much do we need to dumb down the sport to please the few fools lying on their sofas struggling to understand what’s going on?
It is just not right to ask the world’s best riders to risk their lives in the foulest conditions and then tell them they need never have bothered, that the 26 minutes of horror they’ve just lived through was entirely for nothing.
There is another solution to this perverse situation. Current rules require a Grand Prix race to go two-thirds distance before the result counts. If a race runs for one lap less than two-thirds distance, it can be replaced with a five-lap sprint that counts for full-championship points. Five laps – that’s a club race!
Why not reduce the minimum distance to half-distance? If 52 per cent is enough to decide a nation-changing referendum, surely it’s enough to decide the outcome of a bike race. Then, if the weather hadn’t allowed a restart for the final 12 laps, the Assen result would’ve been Andrea Dovizioso first, Danilo Petrucci second and Valentino Rossi third. Full points would have been awarded everyone would’ve gone home without further ado.
One way or another, the rules need changing.
What kind of a fan would find a race of combined times that hard to follow? Any half-decent commentator would be able to communicate the situation and in fact make the race even more exciting. How much do we need to dumb down the sport to please the few fools lying on their sofas struggling to understand what’s going on?
It is just not right to ask the world’s best riders to risk their lives in the foulest conditions and then tell them they need never have bothered, that the 26 minutes of horror they’ve just lived through was entirely for nothing.
There is another solution to this perverse situation. Current rules require a Grand Prix race to go two-thirds distance before the result counts. If a race runs for one lap less than two-thirds distance, it can be replaced with a five-lap sprint that counts for full-championship points. Five laps – that’s a club race!
Why not reduce the minimum distance to half-distance? If 52 per cent is enough to decide a nation-changing referendum, surely it’s enough to decide the outcome of a bike race. Then, if the weather hadn’t allowed a restart for the final 12 laps, the Assen result would’ve been Andrea Dovizioso first, Danilo Petrucci second and Valentino Rossi third. Full points would have been awarded everyone would’ve gone home without further ado.
One way or another, the rules need changing.
yeah not for me how about you ?
this just proves it happens to the best of them
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