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Andrew Tate!!!!

I was listening to Joe Rogan and Dave Portnay whatever his name is about this and I thought it was funny that Rogan was like. Why is he going after some 19 year old with autism. Referring to Greta What's-her-face..
 
I'm just sick of people calling this guy smart. "Oh he'll say what no one else will" - yeah because he's tactless loudmouth that didn't get enough attention as a kid. He's not brave or smart - he must be good at kicking people but that's all I'll give him. His audience is a bunch of old conservatives that know about him because of Tucker Carlson and 16 year old boys that don't understand anything.
 
What's everyone's opinion on the Top G?
I fw him honestly. Is he a little douchey, yeah but I mean...look around you lol. I agree with a lot of what he says about masculinity, but he does have some takes that are very much rooted in whatever fantasy he's conjured up in his head. He wasn't the greatest kickboxer either, he was a champ but he was a champ in dogshit organizations with little to no competition/talent...if he was a glory kickboxing champ or K1, that'd be impressive. But he's dead on when he speaks about masculinity dying out fast.

I'm just sick of people calling this guy smart. "Oh he'll say what no one else will" - yeah because he's tactless loudmouth that didn't get enough attention as a kid. He's not brave or smart - he must be good at kicking people but that's all I'll give him. His audience is a bunch of old conservatives that know about him because of Tucker Carlson and 16 year old boys that don't understand anything.
You sound like the type to think Bruce Jenner is brave.
 
He is scum, trash, filth, moronic, waste of space, and really a complete cunt. The world would be better without him and his cult of cucks.
 
Tate would be amusing if it were a fictional persona that he was undertaking, and I do suspect that he is in fact putting on a bit of theatre but to what extent I cannot say for certain.

They lean hard into the misogyny angle, too hard even and that makes me wonder if that is where I get the vibe that he could be putting on in that area a bit.

Business wise it's a sound marketing ploy to attract incels that will sign-up to his Hustler's University, and it is aptly named (comically so) because the only ones getting hustled are them because they are pathetic and desperate enough to give him a monthly fee for information that is probably readily available online for no cost.

Their issues is they have the personalities of door knobs and a sense of entitlement, and that cannot be corrected in a echo chamber.

Tate is capitalizing on their collective delusional belief.

That I won't fault him for, however, if the allegations of sex trafficking and sexual assault are true, then he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
 
His lawyer has come out in an interview recently and if you still think its not rigged I'm sorry you're just as morally corrupt as the people trying to take him down! Time will tell?



He is scum, trash, filth, moronic, waste of space, and really a complete cunt. The world would be better without him and his cult of cucks.
Based on what kid?
 
Andrew Tate, and this thread in general:

Watch Netflix's "White Noise." Everyone talking over everyone else, and nobody saying anything that matters. Andrew Tate is that drunk dude driving a semi truck that caused a train wreck that became the toxic cloud. Everyone feeding into that pointless bullshit for no damn reason. Why do people care what a penis-looking douchebag has to say?
 
he seems arrogant and self centered. from what i read. never heard about him till now,tbh.
"seems"?

You are a saint man with that much restraint.

He is diagnosable under DSM5 criteria:

Introduction​

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), a cluster B personality disorder, is considered to be one of the least identified personality disorders (Pies, 2011). On the other hand, a good number of patients with narcissistic traits present at the psychiatrist's office with other types of issues such as anxiety or depression. A common finding in clinical practice, NPD frequently coexists with other psychiatric disorders. NPD is a relatively recent diagnostic category. Its origins stem from a great effort between psychoanalysts and psychoanalytic psychotherapists to recognize a cluster of predominantly difficult patients who could not be classified as psychotic, not typically neurotic and overall not responsive to conventional psycho therapeutic treatment options (Gildersleeve, 2012).

NPD appears to be more widespread in males than females for unknown reasons. In the past there has been some speculation that the limited spotlight on grandiosity likely adds to the extensive discrepancy that is seen with small NPD prevalence rates in epidemiological research and elevated occurrences of NPD seen in clinical practice (Campbell, Miller, & Widiger, 2010).

The most important characteristics of NPD are grandiosity, seeking excessive admiration, and a lack of empathy (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). These identifying features can result in a negative impact on an individual’s interpersonal affairs and life general. In most cases, on the exterior, these patients act with an air of right and control, dismissing others, and frequently showcasing condescending or denigrating attitudes. Nevertheless, internally, these patients battle with strong feelings of low self esteem issues and inadequacy. Even though the typical NPD patient may achieve great achievements, ultimately their functioning in society can be affected as these characteristics interfere with both personal and professional relationships. A large part of this is as result of the NPD patient being incapable of receiving disapproval or rebuff of any kind, in addition to the fact that the NPD patient typically exhibits lack of empathy and overall disrespect for others.

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder​

The definition of NPD states that it comprises of a persistent manner of grandiosity, a continuous desire for admiration, along with a lack of empathy. It starts by early adulthood and occurs in a range of situations, as signified by the existence of any 5 of the next 9 standards (American Psychiatric Association, 2013):

  • A grandiose logic of self-importance
  • A fixation with fantasies of infinite success, control, brilliance, beauty, or idyllic love
  • A credence that he or she is extraordinary and exceptional and can only be understood by, or should connect with, other extraordinary or important people or institutions
  • A desire for unwarranted admiration
  • A sense of entitlement
  • Interpersonally oppressive behavior
  • No form of empathy
  • Resentment of others or a conviction that others are resentful of him or her
  • A display of egotistical and conceited behaviors or attitudes
Another model, characterizes NPD as having fair or superior impairment in personality functioning, apparent by characteristic troubles in at least 2 of the following 4 areas (American Psychiatric Association, 2013):

  1. Individuality
  2. Self-direction
  3. Empathy
  4. Closeness
No actual physical characteristics are seen with NPD, but patients may have concurrent substance abuse, which may be seen in the clinical examination.

Epidemiology​

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is more prevalent in males, with about 18 percent of males presenting with NPD, compared to six percent of females (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). Within the general population, the prevalence rate is less than one percent, yet within the clinical population, this number rises to about 2 to 16 percent.

Differential Diagnosis​

NPD has similar characteristics with the other 3 cluster B personality disorders, and thus should be differentiated accordingly. These are Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD), Borderline personality disorder (BPD) and Histrionic personality disorder (HPD). Additionally individuals with NPD may also meet the definition for also having axis I disorder, or exhibits features that similar to axis I disorders (CITE).

While no particular laboratory tests help with the diagnosis of NPD, a urine toxicology screen may be important to exclude substance abuse such as alcohol and drugs as likely reasons of the pathology.

Co-morbidity​

Several comorbid disorders occur with NPD, with the most common being major depressive disorder, seen in about 45 to 50 percent of NPD patients (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). Bipolar disorder presents in 5 to 11 percent of NPD patients (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). On the other hand, the most prevalent comorbidity seen is that of substance abuse. Approximately 24 to 64.2 percent of NPD patients have substance abuse disorders (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013).

Treatment for Narcissistic Personality Disorder​

The treatments for NPD are forms of therapy, as well as pharmacologic (Narcissistic Personality Disorder, 2011). The core of treatment lies with individual psychotherapy, which consists mainly of psychoanalytic psychotherapy. In addition, other types of therapy may be utilized, such as family, group, couples therapies, plus cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT). Since NPD patients commonly have other psychiatric ailments like depression, anxiety or other mood disorders, certain psychotropic medications may also be administered.

While treatment for NPD largely remains outpatient, an indication for inpatient stay should occur if the patient severely worsens or becomes a threat to their own safety as well as others. Even with inpatient care, it is best to opt for shorter hospital times, as extended stays have not been reported to transform the course of the illness. The use of hospitalization ought to only be used as a short-term method which facilitates either the stabilization of environmental stressors, and/or regulation of drug dosages .

Psychotherapy​

With individual psychoanalytic psychotherapy, much debate exists between the 2 key school of thoughts Kernberg and Kohut, both offering conflicting methods regarding the therapist’s role in treating NPD patients. Kernberg advocates a direct confrontation of the NPD patient during therapy, with the goal of eliminating or weakening the patient’s grandiosity. On the other hand, Kohut supports a more empathic role, that encourages the patient’s grandiosity, thus strengthening the patient’s naturally deficient self image (Gildersleeve, 2012). In therapy, a common form of treatment is a combination of both.

Other Forms of Therapy​

Some speculate that NPD patients may experience difficulty handing group sessions, since they lack the traits needed for group therapy like patience, connectivity, and empathy. Research maintains that the use of long-term group therapy offers NPD patients the avenue to improve trust with others and other crucial relationship aspects in a safe and controlled environment (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013).

The use of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) in treating NPD mainly involves the particular form of CBT recognized as schema-focused therapy, that focuses on fixing narcissistic schemas and the flawed moods and coping mechanisms (Matusiewicz, Hopwood, Banducci, & Lejuez, 2011).

Pharmacologic Therapy​

No actual medications are indicated for the treatment of NPD. Given that patients may have other co-morbid psychiatric issues, these patients sometimes benefit from using medications such as antidepressants, antipsychotics, as well as mood stabilizers (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013).

Long-Term Monitoring​

It is important for NPD patients to receive close long-term monitoring as there may be a potential risk for suicide, especially in patients who also have depression. While one can assume that giving the low self-esteem and high impulsive nature, suicidal behaviors should be directly linked with NPD (Campbell, Miller, & Widiger, 2010).

Social Impact​

Ironically patients with NPD, also known as narcissists are reportedly happier than others in society. Being highly materialistic, self-enhancing, entitled and impulsive, they may not learn from mistakes, and have a tendency to get into even greater trouble, notably legal and disciplinary (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). These maladaptive coping mechanisms can result in issues in the work place or in school, or unemployment.

Patients with NPD tend to be drawn to people of a high societal class, who think very highly of them (Campbell, Miller, & Widiger, 2010). The constant desire for admiration may cause romantic relationships to be short lived, as they constantly seek for something better, or when their lack of empathy becomes apparent to their partners (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). So patients with NPD may exhibit an unforgiving nature and showcase anger and aggression in such close relationships (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). This can also affect work relationships or any close group activities.
 
What's everyone's opinion on the Top G?
He is a dude with opinions

"seems"?

You are a saint man with that much restraint.

He is diagnosable under DSM5 criteria:

Introduction​

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), a cluster B personality disorder, is considered to be one of the least identified personality disorders (Pies, 2011). On the other hand, a good number of patients with narcissistic traits present at the psychiatrist's office with other types of issues such as anxiety or depression. A common finding in clinical practice, NPD frequently coexists with other psychiatric disorders. NPD is a relatively recent diagnostic category. Its origins stem from a great effort between psychoanalysts and psychoanalytic psychotherapists to recognize a cluster of predominantly difficult patients who could not be classified as psychotic, not typically neurotic and overall not responsive to conventional psycho therapeutic treatment options (Gildersleeve, 2012).

NPD appears to be more widespread in males than females for unknown reasons. In the past there has been some speculation that the limited spotlight on grandiosity likely adds to the extensive discrepancy that is seen with small NPD prevalence rates in epidemiological research and elevated occurrences of NPD seen in clinical practice (Campbell, Miller, & Widiger, 2010).

The most important characteristics of NPD are grandiosity, seeking excessive admiration, and a lack of empathy (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). These identifying features can result in a negative impact on an individual’s interpersonal affairs and life general. In most cases, on the exterior, these patients act with an air of right and control, dismissing others, and frequently showcasing condescending or denigrating attitudes. Nevertheless, internally, these patients battle with strong feelings of low self esteem issues and inadequacy. Even though the typical NPD patient may achieve great achievements, ultimately their functioning in society can be affected as these characteristics interfere with both personal and professional relationships. A large part of this is as result of the NPD patient being incapable of receiving disapproval or rebuff of any kind, in addition to the fact that the NPD patient typically exhibits lack of empathy and overall disrespect for others.

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder​

The definition of NPD states that it comprises of a persistent manner of grandiosity, a continuous desire for admiration, along with a lack of empathy. It starts by early adulthood and occurs in a range of situations, as signified by the existence of any 5 of the next 9 standards (American Psychiatric Association, 2013):

  • A grandiose logic of self-importance
  • A fixation with fantasies of infinite success, control, brilliance, beauty, or idyllic love
  • A credence that he or she is extraordinary and exceptional and can only be understood by, or should connect with, other extraordinary or important people or institutions
  • A desire for unwarranted admiration
  • A sense of entitlement
  • Interpersonally oppressive behavior
  • No form of empathy
  • Resentment of others or a conviction that others are resentful of him or her
  • A display of egotistical and conceited behaviors or attitudes
Another model, characterizes NPD as having fair or superior impairment in personality functioning, apparent by characteristic troubles in at least 2 of the following 4 areas (American Psychiatric Association, 2013):

  1. Individuality
  2. Self-direction
  3. Empathy
  4. Closeness
No actual physical characteristics are seen with NPD, but patients may have concurrent substance abuse, which may be seen in the clinical examination.

Epidemiology​

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is more prevalent in males, with about 18 percent of males presenting with NPD, compared to six percent of females (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). Within the general population, the prevalence rate is less than one percent, yet within the clinical population, this number rises to about 2 to 16 percent.

Differential Diagnosis​

NPD has similar characteristics with the other 3 cluster B personality disorders, and thus should be differentiated accordingly. These are Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD), Borderline personality disorder (BPD) and Histrionic personality disorder (HPD). Additionally individuals with NPD may also meet the definition for also having axis I disorder, or exhibits features that similar to axis I disorders (CITE).

While no particular laboratory tests help with the diagnosis of NPD, a urine toxicology screen may be important to exclude substance abuse such as alcohol and drugs as likely reasons of the pathology.

Co-morbidity​

Several comorbid disorders occur with NPD, with the most common being major depressive disorder, seen in about 45 to 50 percent of NPD patients (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). Bipolar disorder presents in 5 to 11 percent of NPD patients (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). On the other hand, the most prevalent comorbidity seen is that of substance abuse. Approximately 24 to 64.2 percent of NPD patients have substance abuse disorders (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013).

Treatment for Narcissistic Personality Disorder​

The treatments for NPD are forms of therapy, as well as pharmacologic (Narcissistic Personality Disorder, 2011). The core of treatment lies with individual psychotherapy, which consists mainly of psychoanalytic psychotherapy. In addition, other types of therapy may be utilized, such as family, group, couples therapies, plus cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT). Since NPD patients commonly have other psychiatric ailments like depression, anxiety or other mood disorders, certain psychotropic medications may also be administered.

While treatment for NPD largely remains outpatient, an indication for inpatient stay should occur if the patient severely worsens or becomes a threat to their own safety as well as others. Even with inpatient care, it is best to opt for shorter hospital times, as extended stays have not been reported to transform the course of the illness. The use of hospitalization ought to only be used as a short-term method which facilitates either the stabilization of environmental stressors, and/or regulation of drug dosages .

Psychotherapy​

With individual psychoanalytic psychotherapy, much debate exists between the 2 key school of thoughts Kernberg and Kohut, both offering conflicting methods regarding the therapist’s role in treating NPD patients. Kernberg advocates a direct confrontation of the NPD patient during therapy, with the goal of eliminating or weakening the patient’s grandiosity. On the other hand, Kohut supports a more empathic role, that encourages the patient’s grandiosity, thus strengthening the patient’s naturally deficient self image (Gildersleeve, 2012). In therapy, a common form of treatment is a combination of both.

Other Forms of Therapy​

Some speculate that NPD patients may experience difficulty handing group sessions, since they lack the traits needed for group therapy like patience, connectivity, and empathy. Research maintains that the use of long-term group therapy offers NPD patients the avenue to improve trust with others and other crucial relationship aspects in a safe and controlled environment (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013).

The use of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) in treating NPD mainly involves the particular form of CBT recognized as schema-focused therapy, that focuses on fixing narcissistic schemas and the flawed moods and coping mechanisms (Matusiewicz, Hopwood, Banducci, & Lejuez, 2011).

Pharmacologic Therapy​

No actual medications are indicated for the treatment of NPD. Given that patients may have other co-morbid psychiatric issues, these patients sometimes benefit from using medications such as antidepressants, antipsychotics, as well as mood stabilizers (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013).

Long-Term Monitoring​

It is important for NPD patients to receive close long-term monitoring as there may be a potential risk for suicide, especially in patients who also have depression. While one can assume that giving the low self-esteem and high impulsive nature, suicidal behaviors should be directly linked with NPD (Campbell, Miller, & Widiger, 2010).

Social Impact​

Ironically patients with NPD, also known as narcissists are reportedly happier than others in society. Being highly materialistic, self-enhancing, entitled and impulsive, they may not learn from mistakes, and have a tendency to get into even greater trouble, notably legal and disciplinary (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). These maladaptive coping mechanisms can result in issues in the work place or in school, or unemployment.

Patients with NPD tend to be drawn to people of a high societal class, who think very highly of them (Campbell, Miller, & Widiger, 2010). The constant desire for admiration may cause romantic relationships to be short lived, as they constantly seek for something better, or when their lack of empathy becomes apparent to their partners (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). So patients with NPD may exhibit an unforgiving nature and showcase anger and aggression in such close relationships (Ronningstam & Weinberg, 2013). This can also affect work relationships or any close group activities.

What's everyone's opinion on the Top G?
He is a dude with opinions that stupid men use to feel better… in turn live without women
 


He is a dude with opinions




He is a dude with opinions that stupid men use to feel better… in turn live without women
He neither lives without or hates women, by the many accounts of both men and women that have met him! Honestly I believe its not what he says about women that pisses people off, its the fact that he is teaching men its OK to have standards for women.

The only reason why a lot of women hate him and his standards is because so many women nowadays cannot even met the most basic of men's standards/needs.



Andrew Tate, and this thread in general:

Watch Netflix's "White Noise." Everyone talking over everyone else, and nobody saying anything that matters. Andrew Tate is that drunk dude driving a semi truck that caused a train wreck that became the toxic cloud. Everyone feeding into that pointless bullshit for no damn reason. Why do people care what a penis-looking douchebag has to say?
That's actually kinda funny! "Everyone talking over everyone else, and nobody saying anything that matters." because none of the rest of what you said matters or means anything other than a childish insult!

Bitch, please. A true man won't go around on social media, announcing to the world the stupid ass shit he does and expect to get away with it.
For example?
 
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