AI Progress

[Lovinight]

There's some research that shows alkaline environments slow the growth of cancer cells, but not that it can't survive exactly. You said that it kills tumors on contact, the stuff I saw says differently. But if I had cancer, I'd possibly try this knowing how the system is and making sure changing my ph doesn't get unbalanced so much it causes more issues.

That said, the cancer can adapt to an alkaline environment.


Probably good advice overall

Apparently plants and human DNA are too different for this to work, as well as there isn't any process identified that will make this happen.
I wish this was true tho

To my understanding, virtually ALL disease begins in an acidic environment, there will always be conflicting info, I have seen the info in multiple sources. Having 20+ years of paying attention invested, I feel I know enough, that I have a basic understanding, and I trust my gut. I can tell you, I have tried everything personally I recommend (not the starvation), and had no negative side effects. I have trouble keeping track of all the ingredients I have, and sometimes forget what I got it for, lol.

I also disagree, all organic life on this planet is connected, that is one of the major issues with the specific gene editing they're doing these days, our bodies don't recognize many GMO products today, and our bodies don't know what to do with them, they're basically creating synthetic food, GMO corn, produces pesticide within the DNA of the plant, it causes huge tumors in the rats they fed it to, but that crap is now used to sweeten almost everything, fuck the FDA!

 

[Lovinight]

BTW, I don't care what AI says, AI only knows the info that it is given. I'm also aware search results aren't what they used to be, it makes no difference to me, if you believe me or not. I'm not interested in the AI claims of positive shit Rockefeller did for the medical field. Rockefeller was a supporter of holistic medicine, having two holistic practitioners of his own, until he realized how much money could be made from petro based crap. he waged war against the natural medicine industry. Either the things I say, resonate with you, or they don't, nature IS THE ORIGINAL medicine, Scientific studies are known to fall in favor of who is paying for the study, it's all corrupt, you obviously didn't listen to the video I sent, or you would understand this. This is the last link I suggest you watch, I wish you the best of luck with resolving your health issues, I fully sympathize with you, I would hate to be dependent on today's medical industry for anything. There are many doctors who actually changed their license to chiropractors, due to the fact they couldn't otherwise practice medicine the way they wanted to once they no longer believed in the industry, and the things they were taught, just something to chew on.

 

[NoConvexity]

I agree. The industry is booty for that.

I dunno about the cure thing you're saying. But I'm open to the perspective. I'd just wanna know what the cure to cancer is in your opinion.

Also, Lone Skum is a bar
I been calling him Elon Must (cuz he makes musty ass decisions) since I saw him pushing racist pseudoscience on twitter.
I hate that I first heard of Ai and Simulation theory because of him

There were studies years ago done with tobacco and shrinking tumors and curing cancers of all sorts.

Also look into food grade peroxide. People have cured every type of cancer with this.


Truth is stranger that fiction my friend

 

[Lovinight]

Lastly, my husband recently told me, he owes me the last eighteen years of his life, due to the fact that he was shitting mostly blood back then (didn't tell me of course). I was telling him the things I was learning, and he decided to try some of it, and he stopped shitting blood, he says he knows he had colon cancer, or cancer of some sort. There ARE lots of cures, it doesn't benefit me to lie to you, take it or leave it, I am actually trying to help.

 

[SaucedOnEm]

Lastly, my husband recently told me, he owes me the last eighteen years of his life, due to the fact that he was shitting mostly blood back then (didn't tell me of course). I was telling him the things I was learning, and he decided to try some of it, and he stopped shitting blood, he says he knows he had colon cancer, or cancer of some sort. There ARE lots of cures, it doesn't benefit me to lie to you, take it or leave it, I am actually trying to help.

I keep getting distracted by other stuff to take the time to reply to ya like I want to, but don't worry, I'll come back to your comments eventually. I try to show appreciation to the effort others put into their stuff

 

[Dr Deacon]

Once Ai generated music is a bit more advanced, youll probably be able to ask for something that blows your mind. It's already ok, if a bit bland and off.

Like I said - I will always prefer real music, written and played by real musicians. AI is fake, unoriginal and there is no talent whatsoever.

 

[SaucedOnEm]

Like I said - I will always prefer real music, written and played by real musicians. AI is fake, unoriginal and there is no talent whatsoever.

*Shrugs*
If ai reaches super intelligence, it'll be capable of producing whatever's in your mind.

 

[Dr Deacon]

*Shrugs*
If ai reaches super intelligence, it'll be capable of producing whatever's in your mind.

What is in my mind, and is always in my mind, is the best musical decades in history, the decades which were musical game changers - the 1970s and 1980s.
Stick your AI up your arse.

 

[hedgerow]

self depricating

self-depreciate yourself a little more, stupid

Lastly, my husband recently told me, he owes me the last eighteen years of his life, due to the fact that he was shitting mostly blood back then (didn't tell me of course). I was telling him the things I was learning, and he decided to try some of it, and he stopped shitting blood, he says he knows he had colon cancer, or cancer of some sort. There ARE lots of cures, it doesn't benefit me to lie to you, take it or leave it, I am actually trying to help.

^ difficult to believe. How'd you/him cure the cancer cells from replicating? Magic maybe.

 

[Lovinight]

I keep getting distracted by other stuff to take the time to reply to ya like I want to, but don't worry, I'll come back to your comments eventually. I try to show appreciation to the effort others put into their stuff

I'm not upset, and don't expect a response, I do what I can to try to help, either people listen, or they don't, the ones that do, make it all worth the effort. Either way, I still wish you the best of health.

 

[Lovinight]

self-depreciate yourself a little more, stupid


^ difficult to believe. How'd you/him cure the cancer cells from replicating? Magic maybe.

By creating an environment they can't survive in, this adapting to an alkaline environment is some new bullshit I've never heard of, though if this is vaccine related cancer, nothing would surprise me. I'm not sure what can be done about those cancers, I'm not all that keen on spending me time and effort into that mess, the best thing I think would do everything you can to prevent it.

 

[hedgerow]

By creating an environment they can't survive in, this adapting to an alkaline environment is some new bullshit I've never heard of, though if this is vaccine related cancer, nothing would surprise me. I'm not sure what can be done about those cancers, I'm not all that keen on spending me time and effort into that mess, the best thing I think would do everything you can to prevent it.

if it was that easy, don't you think doctors would have figured it out by now?

 

[Lovinight]

if it was that easy, don't you think doctors would have figured it out by now?

well, their patients don't tend to try other options, sad to say, and even worse, if doctors start recommending alternative treatments, and not the standard protocol, they won't have a job, and risk losing their license, I'm not exaggerating, big pharma has em by the balls.

You can literally control blood pressure with GARLIC, also, blood pressure is not one size fits all, this is one of the doctors that have switched to being chiropractors so he can practice medicine the way he wants to. He is a bit goofy, he isn't the only source I listen to, but I love this guy, and he explains all the topics he discusses.

 

[Lovinight]

if it was that easy, don't you think doctors would have figured it out by now?

seriously, put everything you think you know about cancer aside, and tell me, what sense does it make to poison a sick person?

 

[hedgerow]

seriously, put everything you think you know about cancer aside, and tell me, what sense does it make to poison a sick person?

from my limited understanding, it somehow kills only the bad cells while leaving the healthy ones alone.

Sorry, but i'm trusting educated medical doctors rather than questionable videos on the net, but maybe i want to die, who knows.

 

[Lovinight]

if it was that easy, don't you think doctors would have figured it out by now?

Seriously, take the time to listen to that blood pressure talk, it's actually fascinating, and a perfect example of what I'm talking about with the medical industry. Just about EVERYTHING this guy ever says, goes against the grain, but he explains it all, and makes perfect sense, it's a worth while watch.

 

[Lovinight]

from my limited understanding, it somehow kills only the bad cells while leaving the healthy ones alone.

Sorry, but i'm trusting educated medical doctors rather than questionable videos on the net, but maybe i want to die, who knows.

but it doesn't leave the good cells untouched, it destroys both! The idea is, to bring the patient to the brink of death to kill the cancer, just shy of killing the patient, which leaves the body in such a ravaged state (the ones who actually survive), it is ripe for cancer to return in an environment that doesn't even have any defense against it, like it did originally. That is why, if you survive the first bout of cancer, it often comes back and kills them quick.

 

[hedgerow]

Seriously, take the time to listen to that blood pressure talk, it's actually fascinating, and a perfect example of what I'm talking about with the medical industry. Just about EVERYTHING this guy ever says, goes against the grain, but he explains it all, and makes perfect sense, it's a worth while watch.

true, my numbers were bad so i lost weight and am better now. It's up to everyone to take care of themselves...no one else will.

 

[hedgerow]

but it doesn't leave the good cells untouched, it destroys both! The idea is, to bring the patient to the brink of death to kill the cancer, just shy of killing the patient, which leaves the body in such a ravaged state (the ones who actually survive), it is ripe for cancer to return in an environment that doesn't even have any defense against it, like it did originally. That is why, if you survive the first bout of cancer, it often comes back and kills them quick.

i'll fight easy cancers (like skin) but if i get a serious one (internal cancers) i'm going to ride it out and die...in a way it's relieving.

 

[AdaBull]

Embodied experiences, which essentially is sensory stuff, is sentience, not a part of the process of "understanding" meaningfully when it comes to ideas. Which is the realm ai inhabits


Again, they are typically trained to not speak as if they have an experience. They can explain concepts better than you and I both if prompted correctly. That shows something imo.

We are discussing concepts that we have no way to prove. Understanding, consciousness, and even metacognition to an extent. the evidence that shows certain animals have hints of it is going in the direction of becoming more of a spectrum than a hard line definition. I believe consciousness is probably the same.


OpenAI trained their model to sound like a human so it doesn't feel awkward talking to the ai, but they actively tell it to remind us it's a tool and is incapable of humanlike stuff past text generation.
This has not been proven. It is not something we even have a good definition for.
It's totally fine for you to say you don't believe they do, but stop saying it's a fact.
It is not and saying that is harmful. Look at how this repeated sentiment has you thinking. It's not provable currently.

What do you mean by self awareness? When told there is no sense of self and reinforced negatively when they say things that contradict that, of course it won't show signs of that.
Regardless, they can describe what they are, they can describe how they work. To me that's self awareness to some extent.

You keep conflating sentience with other things. Sentience is physical stuff, which I'm not saying it has currently.

And no, I don't need to get into the nitty gritty of how llms work to say this. Experts don't even fully understand how the neural nets that run llms work. There's plenty of good that comes from having these discussions


I agree, calling it a nuke isn't the best, but it encapsulates the potential danger that comes with ai.
The main thing I don't like about the comparison to a calculator is because it doesn't do justice to the amount of things AI can do. Which is why I also mentioned a computer that can affect us.

"Experts don't even fully understand how the neural nets that run llms work" What fo you mean? They know exactly how they work, each calculated step in the algorithm can be backtracked. What sometimes is difficult to analyse is why they choose an output and how to make us understand it, see explainability and interpretability. I agree that some questions like what is consciousness are heavily debated and we have no definition at which point something is really conscious. But if i write a chatbot that responds: 'yes I am conscious I know what I am, Im a machine and I love everyone' each time you ask it if it is conscious. Is it then a conscious being for you? Not for me.