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Serious Is suicide a "cowards way out"

Astralnaut

Astralnaut

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I don't know if it was a scare tactic at a young age or just a defense mechanism when people gave it thought. But all my life I've been programmed from various angles to believe suicide is a cowards way to go... Is it really a cowards way though. All you know and experience is this life, reality. You have no idea what is next and are banking on absolutely nothing but nothing no conscious just gone, and you lose so much touch with care that you reach that point of ending it when you really don't know and going through and doing it.... In my opinion cowards wouldn't be strong enough in a sense to go through with that.

Damnit I forgot to put tags on this post I usually do. I know what it's like to look for a video and type out clearly what happens in the search and no tags cause nothing to pop up.. nobody wants to find this anyway. But I want to know what the census is in this community's
 
It’s when you’re not successful you become a problem and most people are flinchers soooooo yeah don’t fuck up someone else’s life and time because you’re just too bummed out. And for the fucks of all that is selfish do it outside the house like an adult please mostly so it can be power washed away.
 
There is usually very little rational thought involved in suicide. If you've never been in a suicidal frame of mind, or have never known someone who deals with powerful suicidal ideation, then it is very difficult to put yourself in the shoes of a suicidal person - because the thought processes exhibited by those people are so alien to the mentally sound. There are instances, however, in which suicide is rationally thought out and carried through with, as with terminally ill patients, for example. But as I've lightly alluded to, those who commit suicide cannot all be clumped together, especially not in terms of bravery or cowardice, which tend to be value-laden metrics attached to suicide by those thinking rationally about the subject. To do so is to examine suicide under the scope of normative moral philosophy. And though philosophy is helpful in many realms of life, philosophy is by definition based in reason and logic. So, instead, the suicidal individual can best be examined within the broad scope of mental illness, wherein irrational thought and action are better understood, and even taken for granted.

Generally speaking, within the context of mental illness, cognitive distortions - within the mind of those exhibiting suicidal ideation - make suicide seem rational, just as cognitive distortions can make murder or violence seem like rational and reasonable means to deal with one's problems. Perspectives become skewed under cognitive distortion, and it is under such distorted suicidal perspectives that committing suicide can become possible for many individuals. I, for example, could not fathom committing suicide; but, under the correct circumstances (meaning under heavy cognitive distortion) I could very easily find suicide rational and actionable.

Far too often, we attempt to understand the irrational acts of others using our rational frames of reference, but it is often very difficult to understand irrational acts from a rational perspective unless we examine them in terms of pathology, which is to say if examine them in terms of what went wrong in someone's mind in order to allow them to commit such otherwise unreasonable acts. That tends to be why people do not understand suicide: because it is more often than not an inherently aberrant behavior committed by those exhibiting unsound reasoning; and most people cannot relate to that.
 
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It’s when you’re not successful you become a problem and most people are flinchers soooooo yeah don’t fuck up someone else’s life and time because you’re just too bummed out. And for the fucks of all that is selfish do it outside the house like an adult please mostly so it can be power washed away.
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Yeah I know a guy that waited for his mother to go to the store, shot himself in the head right in the living room. Then another kid that hung himself in his backyard. That I was just hanging out with and drinking beers with and seemed fine and I get a text a few hours later he is gone. Idk man sometimes you never know. It's sad it is to me anyway especially that video of that young kid who pulled the trigger on the shotgun and it jammed and it tried again and went off and killed him. Wish he would have taken the first chance and thought about it. You got to really process what you want to end your life over though man. Really think it through. Bro my life is shit I'm homeless right now in a shelter I have a good job but I squander money, I fuck up every relationship I'm in and just did another one today bad too fucked it up bad.. I want because I just overthink shit. I'm an ex addict trying to be sober.. I'm bad at saving, I don't even know how to function as an adult properly or be organized. Sure I'm good looking, appear well and organized but inside oh man it's all a fucking mask I think about it sometimes and give it real thought like wtf am I doing man,.I don't want to be like this. Then I just keep going.
 
Astralnaut said:
Yeah I know a guy that waited for his mother to go to the store, shot himself in the head right in the living room. Then another kid that hung himself in his backyard. That I was just hanging out with and drinking beers with and seemed fine and I get a text a few hours later he is gone. Idk man sometimes you never know. It's sad it is to me anyway especially that video of that young kid who pulled the trigger on the shotgun and it jammed and it tried again and it went off and killed him. Wish he would have taken the first chance and thought about it
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Only you can decide what you do with your emotions and what’s important to you. Nobody else has the right to tell you how you should feel but you can decide to feel however you want to a lot of people just forget about free will. I mean society kind of conditions you to forget that you have free will so I get it, but you can decide to do something different. You can decide to have a good day even if it has to be a fake one eventually the good days will be genuinely good. I know it’ll be a lot of bad days in between that’s just how it goes. So turn the light on when you fuck and don’t be afraid to split the bill with that bitch good vibes.
 
Cantsayforlegalreasons said:
Only you can decide what you do with your emotions and what’s important to you. Nobody else has the right to tell you how you should feel but you can decide to feel however you want to a lot of people just forget about free will. I mean society kind of conditions you to forget that you have free will so I get it, but you can decide to do something different. You can decide to have a good day even if it has to be a fake one eventually the good days will be genuinely good. I know it’ll be a lot of bad days in between that’s just how it goes. So turn the light on when you fuck and don’t be afraid to split the bill with that bitch good vibes.
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Turn the lights on when you fuck? Split the bill. Well I always front the bill because I'm a sucker and a push away with women and honestly I fucking shoot below the standard line sometimes and I really don't need to but Idk why I do and some of these bitches want the lights off and I just do it. Idk why I take the easy way out. I settle for less sometimes and it just makes me look bad like what is he doing with her. I just had a solid one too man fucked it up so mad at myself for that straight dime piece too, head turner with a good job stability and I flopped it too. Damn
 
Fäthër Cörpsë said:
Are you catholic?
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Mmh damn man, I don't know right now what I am. I want to be Catholic but I've studied to far into the unbiased history of religion and realized that Christianity is literally a carbon copy of older esoteric religions with the same dates, events and names sometimes. And you build the peices and realize wait.. this is the story of Jesus. And it was around hundreds of years before he even lived. Just as it spanned time and culture names and small concepts changed... Then realize wait we are going to shed modern religion just like we shed the old religions when science broke and we found out that the wind and weather isn't god. We have societal changing discoveries to make about consciousness it's connection to reality and our perception of god and us. No doubt modern religion will break one day and we will shed it. It's just a matter of time. But yes I want to be Catholic. I want to believe.
 
Astralnaut said:
Turn the lights on when you fuck? Split the bill. Well I always front the bill because I'm a sucker and a push away with women and honestly I fucking shoot below the standard line sometimes and I really don't need to but Idk why I do and some of these bitches want the lights off and I just do it. Idk why I take the easy way out. I settle for less sometimes and it just makes me look bad like what is he doing with her. I just had a solid one too man fucked it up so mad at myself for that straight dime piece too, head turner with a good job stability and I flopped it too. Damn
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Free that fucking will bud fuck em and fuck all the opinions. Pour Gatorade on it afterwards and scream good game! Free WILL!!!!
Edit: don’t go too crazy with the free will unless you have that kind of bail money.
 
My dad committed suicide at 54. In his life he married 3x, divorced 3 x, and towards the end his best friend of 40 years died, his favorite restaurant/hang out went out of business, his only pet died, and he lost his job. He drank heavily and smoked pot, which was the only thing he wanted to do, and listen to his music. He used to be the fun and handsome guy always making people laugh. He choose Easter to do it, and that year Easter fell on my birthday. I just think he couldn't take it anymore and wanted to end it to be reborn. It wasn't impulsive, it was planned. I never thought of him as a coward, in fact I thought it took a bit of nerve to choose Easter/my bday to do it. I refused to buy into the stigma of suicide being shameful, or whatever. GTFO if someone dared to say anything like that to me. Fun fact....I was the one who found him...4 days after he died, and that took a long time to be able to not feel scared to death at night. I don't talk about it much, except at this time of year I may feel the need to but not everyone understands, or wants to hear it. 2 weeks after my Dad, my maternal uncle committed suicide and my mother attempted it 2x. Cowards? No, I can't say if they were, and I would never label them as such.
 
Nope, absolutely not. A bloke I used to work with years ago and I had many long conversations about this very subject, once we realised we were both of a somewhat depressive and doom-laden nature (you know, proper mental problems as opposed to the current vogue of everyone in the entire fucking world claiming to be a special little sunflower by having assburgers and ADHD and all the other shite). To be driven so mad by the world that you're seriously contemplating not only choosing a physical way to end your existence, but more importantly to step off the edge of an unknown precipice into - and to paraphrase Arthur C. Clarke - one of two incomprehensible and terrifying possibilities, the first being that our 'soul' for want of a better word just ceases to exist forever, or the second being that it doesn't. That takes planet-sized balls.
 
When I was a kid an uncle of mine who was always thought of as a bit 'you know'.... decided to top himself, this was back in the days when you were legally allowed to have hunting weapons in the UK so he decided to go for the old classic shotgun-in-the-mouth out in his garden shed. Unfortunately he flinched at the last second and just proceeded to blow off half his jaw and face, and was found alive quickly enough to be rushed to hospital. He lived alone for many years after, admittedly looking like Mason Verger; as this was the '70s it was only ever spoken about afterwards with mockery and scorn. Even at the time I felt an odd empathy for the guy, and I was very much against the grain in never taking the piss out of him. I always thought what he tried to do must have taken courage on a scale I couldn't and still can't comprehend.

That said if you're going to do it make sure you finish the job though....
 
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