5 things to know about the latest Minneapolis shooting, NPR + Fox News article + News Videos (New ICE Shooting, Alex Pretti)

[Dirl]

"Hysterical faggot" – reacts psychotically.

Fuck off spineless retard.
Psychotic, is you seeing things that don't exist in the footage.

 

[Vimana]

Fuck off spineless retard.
Psychotic, is you seeing things that don't exist in the footage.

 

[Dirl]

What's so funny?
To value an armed retard who was shot for resisting the authorities? He was clown indeed.

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

You are sleeping-walking into a autocracy.

“He had no business being there.” Debatable.

Don’t even think that’s debated, it’s any citizens right and business to be part of any protest movement anywhere in the United States. Also he wasn’t coming from another state, he lived the city.

"Inserting himself in a dangerous situation." Again, debatable.

it’s dangerous because the police escalated the situation. Yes it was a dangerous situation because ICE made it that way by pushing people, pepper spraying, and then grabbing this guy a shooting him AFTER he was disarmed.

 

[Vimana]

Don’t even think that’s debated, it’s any citizens right and business to be part of any protest movement anywhere in the United States. Also he wasn’t coming from another state, he lived the city.

it’s dangerous because the police escalated the situation. Yes it was a dangerous situation because ICE made it that way by pushing people, pepper spraying, and then grabbing this guy a shooting him AFTER he was disarmed.

What makes me laugh is how obviously politically motivated this ICE operation in Minnesota is. If they were actually serious about immigration they could go to Texas and deal with the 1.6 million undocumented migrants there. Apparently, Minnesota has like only 90,000. They just want to foment unrest and punish a blue state.

 

[Nekroid]

If anyone has the ***original raw HD videos*** of this incident, it would be nice if you could share them here. Please upload to catbox.moe if they are too big to post here... please, don't re-encode them.

I've been searching for them ever since this happened. Most searches don't work because search results are polluted with news media stories that don't show the whole clips, are censored, and have people talking over them.

I can find videos that are resized. Some of them are HD, but in actuality, the videos are actually upscaled from some secondary sources that downscaled the original videos. So, the videos are very blurry because of that. Other people are re-encoding the videos at very low bit rates which again make the image glitchy, blurry, and hard to see.

The videos were originally uploaded to the Internet by the people who took them, and THAT's what I'm trying to find. These raw, first, original uploads, before they were degraded by multiple re-encodings and re-sizings by users and different social media sites.

I would be so grateful if anyone who has these could share them.

 

[PokeyCactus]

so you just want to live in a dictatorship then, at least you are open about it. I think that’s despicable and treason to the constitution.

Our current president won the presidency, popular vote, the House and the Senate. Thats a fucking mandate. 80% of the US population wants these murderers and rapists GONE from our towns and cities. That’s no where NEAR a dictatorship. That’s a constitutional republic. ICE is doing EXACTLY what we voted for. The ONLY reason less than 1% of the population is acting like a bunch of jackasses is because they’re being funded/paid by leftist billionaires. There’s the real dictator structure.

 

[Saltedblood]

So many to go... get to work boys!

 

[ScHoLaR oF SMuT]

it's team ICE for me.... today, tomorrow and forever.
Minnesotians with five brains cells and only 2 working , stay home.
ya understand ? *you unwashed fucks.

 

[Vimana]

Yes, but the bar wasn’t exactly high was it? And it’s getting lower…

Trump has already backtracked. He has thrown Bovino under the bus. He has no honour and cares only about enriching himself.
While you guys argue about trannies and the IQ of Somalis the president and his entourage are grifting to their hearts content. Everybody wants foreign murderers and rapists deported/executed, I get that. But do it properly. ICE do not need to be rushing around like a pack of power-drunk thugs, all masked up like a bunch of Mexican federales. You cannot be arbitrarily arresting randomers and detaining American citizens simply because you presume them to be foreign. Of course, it only makes sense if you dislike foreigners. The US is supposed to be the world’s most powerful democracy but is acting like the neighbourhood crackhead. If Trump was really a strong president he would face Iran or Russia head-on. But he’s too scared. More easy to pick on random countries like Greenland and destroy whatever reputation the US has remaining. I never used to believe it, but now I am sure that the Russians must have some Epstein-related kompromat on him. He simply cannot be this stupid.

What do you mean by “leftist billionaires?” That’s a oxymoron. The US is literally under the thrall of a cabal of weird libertarians, tech moguls like Peter Thiel and thinkers like Curtis Yarvin. Their dream country has the structure of India: bureaucratic, caste-based, servitude for the masses, riches for the 1%.

Trump doesn’t care about you. By definition he is part of the oligarchic class.

Our current president won the presidency, popular vote, the House and the Senate. Thats a fucking mandate. 80% of the US population wants these murderers and rapists GONE from our towns and cities. That’s no where NEAR a dictatorship. That’s a constitutional republic. ICE is doing EXACTLY what we voted for. The ONLY reason less than 1% of the population is acting like a bunch of jackasses is because they’re being funded/paid by leftist billionaires. There’s the real dictator structure.

 

[Dirl]

Yes, but the bar wasn’t exactly high was it? And it’s getting lower…

Trump has already backtracked. He has thrown Bovino under the bus. He has no honour and cares only about enriching himself.
While you guys argue about trannies and the IQ of Somalis the president and his entourage are grifting to their hearts content. Everybody wants foreign murderers and rapists deported/executed, I get that. But do it properly. ICE do not need to be rushing around like a pack of power-drunk thugs, all masked up like a bunch of Mexican federales. You cannot be arbitrarily arresting randomers and detaining American citizens simply because you presume them to be foreign. Of course, it only makes sense if you dislike foreigners. The US is supposed to be the world’s most powerful democracy but is acting like the neighbourhood crackhead. If Trump was really a strong president he would face Iran or Russia head-on. But he’s too scared. More easy to pick on random countries like Greenland and destroy whatever reputation the US has remaining. I never used to believe it, but now I am sure that the Russians must have some Epstein-related kompromat on him. He simply cannot be this stupid.

What do you mean by “leftist billionaires?” That’s a oxymoron. The US is literally under the thrall of a cabal of weird libertarians, tech moguls like Peter Thiel and thinkers like Curtis Yarvin. Their dream country has the structure of India: bureaucratic, caste-based, servitude for the masses, riches for the 1%.

Trump doesn’t care about you. By definition he is part of the oligarchic class.

More music?

And of course let's start a nuclear war over Ukraine. You have the IQ of a snail.

 

[Vimana]

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And of course let's start a nuclear war over Ukraine. You have the IQ of a snail.

"Let's start a nuclear war" What? Are you okay? Your blood-pressure must be crazy high. Not even being facetious, genuinely asking.

 

[Dirl]

"Let's start a nuclear war" What? Are you okay? Your blood-pressure must be crazy high. Not even being facetious, genuinely asking.

Since you have such a limited view, let me explain things in a very simple way, like we do to children.

If the most powerful army in the world entered Ukraine and started inflicting monstrous casualties on the Russian side, Russia would drop a nuclear bomb on Kiev to end the show. On the other hand, the US wouldn't stand still without retaliating and escalating the conflict to an unprecedented level. Not to mention the overwhelming tragedy that would befall Ukrainian citizens.

Nuclear weapons exist for a reason: to deter your rival from having crazy ideas.

It's emotional and idealistic people like you who have led to the cancer that Europe is becoming.

 

[Vimana]

Since you have such a limited view, let me explain things in a very simple way, like we do to children.

If the most powerful army in the world entered Ukraine and started inflicting monstrous casualties on the Russian side, Russia would drop a nuclear bomb on Kiev to end the show. On the other hand, the US wouldn't stand still without retaliating and escalating the conflict to an unprecedented level. Not to mention the overwhelming tragedy that would befall Ukrainian citizens.

Nuclear weapons exist for a reason: to deter your rival from having crazy ideas.

It's emotional and idealistic people like you who have led to the cancer that Europe is becoming.

It is very telling you go straight to nuclear Armageddon.

 

[Dirl]

It is very telling you go straight to nuclear Armageddon.

If by some miracle there were no nuclear attack, it would be a massacre on Ukrainian soil, millions of soldiers and citizens would die, and the war would certainly spread at least throughout Eastern Europe, including your country.

I don't agree with Trump on everything and wars don't end overnight. I think he only realized this when he became president and came across the contracts that Zelensky signed with American multinational companies just to receive his cut.

That's why these peace negotiations go back and forth, while the Russian side, which has the upper hand, maintains the same demands from the beginning. The victor dictates the terms, It's not because Trump doesn't have balls.

 

[Vwj]

He was a calm person; he's a nurse

WAS a nurse, got fired 3 months ago, supposedly had a run in with ice a week before where he had suffered a broken rib,
Now if in fact he was a nurse then why did he take a gun and not a medical kit,

 

[Vimana]

If by some miracle there were no nuclear attack, it would be a massacre on Ukrainian soil, millions of soldiers and citizens would die, and the war would certainly spread at least throughout Eastern Europe, including your country.

I don't agree with Trump on everything and wars don't end overnight. I think he only realized this when he became president and came across the contracts that Zelensky signed with American multinational companies just to receive his cut.

That's why these peace negotiations go back and forth, while the Russian side, which has the upper hand, maintains the same demands from the beginning. The victor dictates the terms, It's not because Trump doesn't have balls.

I don’t think the Chinese would approve, remember they are basically bankrolling the Russians now. Eternal WW1-style grind is more preferable to nuclear war. Nuclear war would be bad for business.

The Ukrainians have held the Russians off for like over 12 years. And they will continue to hold them off. If the war spreads (likely I feel), we are ready. We are confident of holding our own. It will be a grim task. It doesn’t help us that many in Europe are scared of upsetting Russia and that America under Trump is simply not interested.

“Nuclear weapons exist for a reason: to deter your rival from having crazy ideas.”

Yes, I think this was considered to certainly be true at one point, but not anymore. It hasn’t stopped people from having crazy ideas – Putin for one. I feel like a lot more are going to die regardless. But sometimes you call your enemies bluff. A lot of the nuclear rhetoric from the Russians is just that – rhetoric. The Ukrainian forays into Russia are proof that the Russian leadership are all bluster. As are the provision of Storm Shadow missiles by the Brits and the HIMARS systems by the Americans. The Russians went spastic over that – but like everything – continued issuing the same threats.

If we accept submission, we aren’t going to make it.

 

[Dirl]

I don’t think the Chinese would approve, remember they are basically bankrolling the Russians now. Eternal WW1-style grind is more preferable to nuclear war. Nuclear war would be bad for business.

The Ukrainians have held the Russians off for like over 12 years. And they will continue to hold them off. If the war spreads (likely I feel), we are ready. We are confident of holding our own. It will be a grim task. It doesn’t help us that many in Europe are scared of upsetting Russia and that America under Trump is simply not interested.

“Nuclear weapons exist for a reason: to deter your rival from having crazy ideas.”

Yes, I think this was considered to certainly be true at one point, but not anymore. It hasn’t stopped people from having crazy ideas – Putin for one. I feel like a lot more are going to die regardless. But sometimes you call your enemies bluff. A lot of the nuclear rhetoric from the Russians is just that – rhetoric. The Ukrainian forays into Russia are proof that the Russian leadership are all bluster. As are the provision of Storm Shadow missiles by the Brits and the HIMARS systems by the Americans. The Russians went spastic over that – but like everything – continued issuing the same threats.

If we accept submission, we aren’t going to make it.

The British, who are the biggest warlords on this continent, only have enough ammunition for a week. This is according to them, I'm not making it up.

The promises that we were going to give the Ukrainians tons of ammunition were just that, promises. Russia, regardless of its flaws, is a military nation, the rest of Europe is not. Russia has 140 million inhabitants, Finland 5 million?

Let's be realistic.

 

[Vimana]

The British, who are the biggest warlords on this continent, only have enough ammunition for a week. This is according to them, I'm not making it up.

The promises that we were going to give the Ukrainians tons of ammunition were just that, promises. Russia, regardless of its flaws, is a military nation, the rest of Europe is not. Russia has 140 million inhabitants, Finland 5 million?

Let's be realistic.

Haha, Oh I know. I have read about it. Makes me cringe inside. Trump does have a point when he lambasts Europe for relying too much on US military might (one of the few things I think he gets), Europe has rested on its laurels for too long and has gotten soft.

Our attitude here is a little different. We cannot afford to sit on our asses.

The odds are against us, yes, but you can try. The Poles and Lithuanians occupied Moscow in the 1600s. I don’t think we should be doing anything like that but I am just saying that crazy stuff like that can happen. I just don’t think nukes will be involved.

 

[Dirl]

Haha, Oh I know. I have read about it. Makes me cringe inside. Trump does have a point when he lambasts Europe for relying too much on US military might (one of the few things I think he gets), Europe has rested on its laurels for too long and has gotten soft.

Our attitude here is a little different. We cannot afford to sit on our asses.

The odds are against us, yes, but you can try. The Poles and Lithuanians occupied Moscow in the 1600s. I don’t think we should be doing anything like that but I am just saying that crazy stuff like that can happen. I just don’t think nukes will be involved.

I just want this to end. A war against Russia would take decades. Part of Ukraine has always been Russian, so let the Russians keep it. Inflated egos will only lead to more destruction.