A comprehensive list of people who have died due to Covid-19 Vaccination

[Ellzibette]

Or getting it just as bad as you would have if you had not got the jab.


How is that even an argument now when you consider people have had the virus and had none or just very mild symptoms yet triple vaccinated have had it bad. My theory is if they hadn't had the triple vaccine they would not have been hit as hard.

You are giving anecdotal evidence as your argument. Which people who have had the vaccine are getting it worse than those who were unvaxxed? I am sure there are cases like this, because nothing is completely black and white, but its not the majority. Also, its more likely that a young, otherwise healthy person is going unvaxxed, versus an older or health-compromised person getting vaxxed. So of course the latter is going to have a rougher time with the virus. What is true, undeniably, is that in at risk populations the manifestation of the virus is less severe in vaxxed versus unvaxxed groups. That is the comparison that matters.

 

[john5]

Why do you anti-vaxxers even care? So lots of people have the vaxes, what difference does it make to you? I've had all my vaccinations, that is my choice, does the fact I have had all my vaccines harm anybody else? The same as you who don't have it, it's your choice, so stop harping on about it and just get on with life.
Nobody knows 100% whether the vaccines are good or bad, you either take 'em or you don't, so give it a rest.

 

[Ellzibette]

Why do you anti-vaxxers even care? So lots of people have the vaxes, what difference does it make to you? I've had all my vaccinations, that is my choice, does the fact I have had all my vaccines harm anybody else? The same as you who don't have it, it's your choice, so stop harping on about it and just get on with life.
Nobody knows 100% whether the vaccines are good or bad, you either take 'em or you don't, so give it a rest.

Agreed. I hear far more anti-vaxxers coming for people who got vaccinated than the other way around. I guess it makes them feel better about their choice? I feel good about my choice, for me. I don't give a shit if people make the same choice I did. I do care when either side spreads misinformation. I think its hard enough to sort through what is best for a person and their own family without all the lies....its even worse when people pull "facts" out of their asses.

 

[Ginjabread man]

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[macread]

You are giving anecdotal evidence as your argument. Which people who have had the vaccine are getting it worse than those who were unvaxxed? I am sure there are cases like this, because nothing is completely black and white, but its not the majority. Also, its more likely that a young, otherwise healthy person is going unvaxxed, versus an older or health-compromised person getting vaxxed. So of course the latter is going to have a rougher time with the virus. What is true, undeniably, is that in at risk populations the manifestation of the virus is less severe in vaxxed versus unvaxxed groups. That is the comparison that matters.

Who told you that? Would it be the same people that constantly lie to the population governments and pharma? And what about the now undeniable risks evidence of which they are trying to bury?

 

[Choppy]

Or getting it just as bad as you would have if you had not got the jab.


How is that even an argument now when you consider people have had the virus and had none or just very mild symptoms yet triple vaccinated have had it bad. My theory is if they hadn't had the triple vaccine they would not have been hit as hard.

Theory.....ok Dr macread

 

[Deleted member 46687]

Why do you anti-vaxxers even care? So lots of people have the vaxes, what difference does it make to you? I've had all my vaccinations, that is my choice, does the fact I have had all my vaccines harm anybody else? The same as you who don't have it, it's your choice, so stop harping on about it and just get on with life.
Nobody knows 100% whether the vaccines are good or bad, you either take 'em or you don't, so give it a rest.

Because how dare you have a different view than them, their opinion matters more than yours, and you'll enjoy them ramming it down your throat every chance they get, ya got that? Damn right you do!

Said in deep mock.

I've had covid twice, once without vaccine, was rough as fuck, once with vaccine was mild and not too bad.

But I'm sure some antivaxxer will come along and tell me I'm wrong in my experiances.

(Over 1 year apart.)

 

[john5]

Because how dare you have a different view than them, their opinion matters more than yours, and you'll enjoy them ramming it down your throat every chance they get, ya got that? Damn right you do!

Said in deep mock.

I've had covid twice, once without vaccine, was rough as fuck, once with vaccine was mild and not too bad.

But I'm sure some antivaxxer will come along and tell me I'm wrong in my experiances.

(Over 1 year apart.)

Me personally, when a Scientist, who has spent years and years studying science things says it is ok to use, and a Politician who knows fuck all about real life says it isn't safe to use, then I'm tending towards listening to the scientist.

Have you noticed all the gobshites who scream and shout are idiots who are 'anti' this, that and the other?
Just shut the fuck up and let people decide what 'they' want to do, not what 'you' want them to do.

 

[AlbertThaFish]

Lmfao I can't put my finger on it what scares your ilk more a shot or pussy 😂

 

[Bill Murray]

I've added a codicil to my will stating that when my heart explodes and I die because of the vaccine it will be posted in this thread.

Thank you @Lovinight for doing god's work.

 

[Ellzibette]

Who told you that? Would it be the same people that constantly lie to the population governments and pharma? And what about the now undeniable risks evidence of which they are trying to bury?

What undeniable risks? Who is giving you that info? People that constantly lie like propagandist conspiracy whackjobs?

 

[Grand Mal Caesar]

Agreed. I hear far more anti-vaxxers coming for people who got vaccinated than the other way around. I guess it makes them feel better about their choice? I feel good about my choice, for me. I don't give a shit if people make the same choice I did. I do care when either side spreads misinformation. I think its hard enough to sort through what is best for a person and there own family without all the lies....its even worse when people pull "facts" out of their asses.

You don't remember the incessant persecution which went on for months against the unvaxed coming from news media, celebrities, social media, government and even our own friends and families? You don't remember them calling the unvaxed, murderers and saying we were going to kill grandma and all kinds of other horse shit to scare or coerce people into getting vaxed?

They also wished to banish us from society and from making a living. They didn't care if it ruined careers, weakened our military, fucked up the minds of children and didn't care if it trampled our constitutional rights.

All fair reasons as to why the unvaccinated may be exhibiting hostilities towards the vaccinated.

 

[djdeeds]

It doesn't stop Covid completely and was never touted as such. It decreases the likelihood of transmission and lessons the symptoms if you do come down with it.

OH it WAS touted as such !! It was ALL over the media that Covid STOPS at every jab !! That LIE was definitely pushed , and relentlessly!!! Of course we all know differently now.. but back when they were pushing it ..... never forget -

Unpopular opinion - If the government wants all of us dead, then who’s going to pay taxes?

If governments want to kill regular people off in mass, then who’s going to fund corrupt politicians and other shady types who rule over us?

The more people in the world, the more pressure on government to fund services and upkeep infrastructure, fund healthcare etc etc . You can look at it that way too. Sure they want our taxes... but they also hate spending any of it on people... so less of them means less demands.

 

[Zitfarmer]

I had a friend die from covid last year. It was suprising she was 44 and a damned zumba instructor.

 

[djdeeds]

All you anti vaxxers can keep your false beliefs the fact is that those of us who got the vaccine, got it because 1- we have people we care about who has a compromised immune system or 2- we actually have something worth living for unlike you stupid fucking twats. Do us all a favor and kill yourselves, but don't forget to record it.

YOU being vaxed wont stop you spreading it you virtuous TWAT. It doesn't stop transmission.

Why do you anti-vaxxers even care? So lots of people have the vaxes, what difference does it make to you? I've had all my vaccinations, that is my choice, does the fact I have had all my vaccines harm anybody else? The same as you who don't have it, it's your choice, so stop harping on about it and just get on with life.
Nobody knows 100% whether the vaccines are good or bad, you either take 'em or you don't, so give it a rest.

The reason it's gained so much attention is because (unlike vaccines in the past) - the recent Covid one has been shrouded in secrecy and statistics are starting to show very alarming numbers of people suffering adverse affects. Pfizer also caught out lying about their test trials , on and on it goes. It's not like other vaccines of the past - that's why people care so much. Too many red flags with it. (by the way , for many people it wasn't a CHOICE ... mandates were not a choice!)

 

[Ellzibette]

You don't remember the incessant persecution which went on for months against the unvaxed coming from news media, celebrities, social media, government and even our own friends and families? You don't remember them calling the unvaxed, murderers and saying we were going to kill grandma and all kinds of other horse shit to scare or coerce people into getting vaxed?

They also wished to banish us from society and from making a living. They didn't care if it ruined careers, weakened our military, fucked up the minds of children and didn't care if it trampled our constitutional rights.

All fair reasons as to why the unvaccinated may be exhibiting hostilities towards the vaccinated.

I don't remember any persecution against unvaxxed people. I remember a bunch of asshats screaming their rights were being violated if they were asked to wear a mask. And yeah there was backlash against that. But I worked throughout the shutdown and we weren't even allowed to ask staff their vaccination status.

OH it WAS touted as such !! It was ALL over the media that Covid STOPS at every jab !! That LIE was definitely pushed , and relentlessly!!! Of course we all know differently now.. but back when they were pushing it ..... never forget -


The more people in the world, the more pressure on government to fund services and upkeep infrastructure, fund healthcare etc etc . You can look at it that way too. Sure they want our taxes... but they also hate spending any of it on people... so less of them means less demands.

Well now we need to get into the general public's understanding of prevention versus the medical community's understanding.

An individual who gets a vaccine, and that's any vaccine, this is true for measles and mumps vaccines as well....that individual can still contract measles, mumps, covid. An individual still can.

However, vaccines greatly lower the rate of infection in populations via herd immunity thus preventing the spread of the disease to such an extent that it can eventually be eradicated in the population. Like smallpox. However ALL vaccines require a critical mass of the population be vaccinated to accomplish this.

So, in a controlled test, the vaccine could be 100% effective at preventing infection in that population. Simultaneously, an individual who is vaccinated in an entirely different population without the same rate of vaccination could still be infected. These two things can, and do, coexist.

This isn't lies versus the truth. This is the general public wanting the efficacy of a mandated vaccination (like measles in the US) but at the participation rate of the flu vaccine. They want a 100% guarantee before getting vaccinated....but that guarantee requires everyone be vaccinated. You can't have 100% efficacy in a population where only 50% of people are vaccinated. That's not the vaccines fault, it's math.

 

[Grand Mal Caesar]

Because how dare you have a different view than them, their opinion matters more than yours, and you'll enjoy them ramming it down your throat every chance they get, ya got that? Damn right you do!

Said in deep mock.

I've had covid twice, once without vaccine, was rough as fuck, once with vaccine was mild and not too bad.

But I'm sure some antivaxxer will come along and tell me I'm wrong in my experiances.

(Over 1 year apart.)

I had it twice also. The first time was quite mild and before vaccinations against covid were being distributed. The second time, about 9 months later was even more mild. I haven't gotten the jab and I have no intention on doing so.

It appears we had closely similar experiences though your first bout was a "rough time". For our second bout, we each had it easier despite you being vaxed and myself not being vaxed. I am not anti-vax. I don't care whether anybody chooses to or not. It's their choice and not my problem. I am concerned for family members who got it though. But, there is nothing I can do about that.

How do you know for sure the symptoms of your second bout weren't diminished by your own natural anti-bodies rather than the vax? Most peoples' second time is almost always milder than their first round whether they were vaxed or not. The results tend to be the same either way barring any previously existing conditions. Because of that, I cant' be convinced that the jab even works.

 

[Motorcat33]

Not poking me with that needle!

seems natural selection is catching up to the weak then

 

[mrln]

all i know is that the govt was pushing the vax so hard,it felt more like a bail out for big pharma.

 

[Grand Mal Caesar]

I don't remember any persecution against unvaxxed people. I remember a bunch of asshats screaming their rights were being violated if they were asked to wear a mask. And yeah there was backlash against that. But I worked throughout the shutdown and we weren't even allowed to ask staff their vaccination status.

I don't see how you don't remember that. It was everywhere.

I stopped wearing a mask about a month after they were mandated where I live after I saw that covid wasn't the deadly, world ending bug it was claimed to be. The hype was worse than the sickness.