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murder Charlie Kirk assassination

I agree. Not to mention he (perp) was in a rush with adrenaline pumping.
Charlie had a vest too. I am not sure what level but I will assume it would not have stopped a rifle round (30.06) in order not to spook the crowd he was only trying to speak with.
Make that a heart shot that went high as it hit upwards on his left from his heart. Jerked the trigger because he was more worried about his transgirl friend than taking the shot that'll put him alway for the rest of his life.

The progressive left has become quite agro recently and the two attempts on Trump and now Kirk is interesting.

the shot that twigged Trump's ear and the way he reacted sealed the election. In my opinion... as an Aussie...
 
Make that a heart shot that went high as it hit upwards on his left from his heart. Jerked the trigger because he was more worried about his transgirl friend than taking the shot that'll put him alway for the rest of his life.

The progressive left has become quite agro recently and the two attempts on Trump and now Kirk is interesting.

the shot that twigged Trump's ear and the way he reacted sealed the election. In my opinion... as an Aussie...

Same MO of Butler for sure. Except the dedicated hunting rifle.
 
So I’ve seen a bunch of ex-military lads chatting about it, and they’re all like, nah, that whole “rooftop shooter” thing doesn’t make sense. The angle’s off. They reckon he was probably wearing a vest under his T-shirt, you can get those thin plates that just cover the heart. Makes sense, right?

And the way his body reacts is a bit odd if it was just a neck shot. They’re saying the bullet likely smacked into the chest plate, ricocheted, then clipped his neck on the way out. That’s why his upper body moves like it does. Thing is, if the bullet’s travelling upwards after that, it means the shot came from ground level, not from some bloke up on a roof. Which makes them think Robinson just moved the gun for the actual shooter, and Tyler was basically there to be spotted on the roof, the fall guy.


Again, not my theory, mate, I’ve just been down the YouTube rabbit hole watching ex-squaddies break it down.

Doubt we’ll ever know the full story though.
No this is really good and you make alot of sense because I have been firing a. 30-O6 for decades and I was wondering why there was no exit wound because the neck isn't alot to go through for any high powered rifle. A shot from the crowd and the rebound theory makes alot of sense and maybe the roof shooter was just firing a blank for the sound and misdirected the crowd from a shooter with a silenced pistol. This could be why there wasn't an exit would and the body reaction.... It is a mystery for sure and if it wasn't a deflection of a body plate then someone might have known he was wearing a vest and the pistol wouldn't pierce it and went for the neck. Thanks for posting this it is definitely making me look at it differently. God bless.
 
I don't understand why people think this kid is a call of duty sniper unless you've never fired a scoped hunting rifle in your life at a stationary target at a small distance, from the best shooting position possible, prone.

I will bet you any money he was aiming for his head and the bullet dropped. End of story. He wasn't aiming for a artery on the left side of his neck that's just retarded. Center mass or a headshot. The furry came close to a headshot but didn't have the experience or his gun set up properly for that distance to do it right.
Makes sense and I just thought it was so perfect that it had to be the target but you are right center mass or head and the only thing is no exit wound and from a high powered rifle it should have gone right through but I could be wrong again. It is a mystery to me....
 
Makes sense and I just thought it was so perfect that it had to be the target but you are right center mass or head and the only thing is no exit wound and from a high powered rifle it should have gone right through but I could be wrong again. It is a mystery to me....
At first people claim the 30.06 bullet fragmented off his vest and flew into his neck but I don't think this guy was wearing level III body armor to begin with. He's only wearing a tshirt.
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The bullet probably blew out the back of his neck as well, look what exit it will do to a deer.

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Exactly! A. 30-O6 would have rocked him center mass and the bullet didn't even leave a mark on his shirt. So if someone in the crowd had a silenced.. 22 it would have bounced off the armor and hit him were it did. I think that the guy on the roof fired a blank or put the round into the building. He was a distraction so the crowd looked at him and the shooter in the crowd got his shot and got away in the chaos. Just a theory I am thinking of. What do you think about it?
 
Exactly! A. 30-O6 would have rocked him center mass and the bullet didn't even leave a mark on his shirt. So if someone in the crowd had a silenced.. 22 it would have bounced off the armor and hit him were it did. I think that the guy on the roof fired a blank or put the round into the building. He was a distraction so the crowd looked at him and the shooter in the crowd got his shot and got away in the chaos. Just a theory I am thinking of. What do you think about it?
You can hear two shots in some videos depending where it was filmed from and that's the bullet travelling at supersonic speed and the rifle noise itself travelling at the speed of sound it's common with a long distance shot. The bullet (noise) will kill you before you hear the rifle it came out of.
 
You can hear two shots in some videos depending where it was filmed from and that's the bullet travelling at supersonic speed and the rifle noise itself travelling at the speed of sound it's common with a long distance shot. The bullet (noise) will kill you before you hear the rifle it came out of.
Damn you know your stuff! Do you think this is a tipping point with the Right and Left? Even his wife alluded to the fact that this is going to be battle call to his supporters... Man this year is going to be on record as the most fucked up year in a very long time. I can't believe everything that has happened. Everyone is saying they feel something big coming and with Nepal and now France, the insane weather, the orbs, fucking 3I Atlas, talk of the 2nd American Civil War.... It's like we're in another dimension. All this and we are just coming to fall. I am waiting for Godzilla to show up at this point! 😂 🤣
 
I feel like the angle of that shot and his body reacting to it indicates he died long before he got to hospital. It really looks like the bullet did spinal damage and possibly spun upwards into the back of the head. I mean, how many videos have we seen on here where someone gets shot in the neck and are still semi mobile before collapsing. Maybe it was the caliber that makes this one so much worse, but all that being said. The hole was big enough and damage severe enough to send that much blood out that quickly, doesnt line up with reports in the media about how he was in critical condition before passing at the hospital.
It hit his left carotid artery. If he was at the hospital already the doctor's wouldn't be able to save him. That caliber of weapon does to much damage from cavitation.
 
what about the plane that was at the local airport. the ONLY plane at the local airport to take off after the incident and was "lost" for 1/2 hr off radar? and the fact that mossad is trained in those kind of kills?
why isnt anyone speaking about that?
So that has been debunked by the person who owns the plane, him and 7 others flew out, taking people back to another airport, that airport doesn’t have a tower, and they were “lost” when it went in for landing
It was all cleared by air traffic control and common practice
Who's Butler? Please excuse my ignorance...
Trumps ear shot location
 
Folks are better shots here in Mississippi. Hunters here grow up knowing as a rule of thumb a typical 3006 with a hunting load has about a 6” drift at 200 yards for every 10mph/90 degree crosswind. Not perfect but keeps you within a 2-3” target.

Anyone wanting to assassinate a famous figure would use a wind correction chart and wind speed tools.

All I’m saying is this is a shot a weekend deer/big game hinter makes many times in a season. It’s not a shot requiring military sniper skills.
At least you know your stuff about weapons
 
You can hear two shots in some videos depending where it was filmed from and that's the bullet travelling at supersonic speed and the rifle noise itself travelling at the speed of sound it's common with a long distance shot. The bullet (noise) will kill you before you hear the rifle it came out of.
Called the Crack/Thump, good way to tell the distance the shooter is at.
More thoughts to consider, a close-up of the guys chest show nipples so no vest & the .30 cal from either .308 or 30-06 is still carrying a lot of energy & should plow through a neck-sized target at that distance (animal & human necks are VERY different), but no exit wound or spatter on the white boards behind him, I know bullets can do strange things, but momentum from 150gr to 220gr bullets tend to go through a human target & would tend to tear up the body (neck) more, a 5.56/.223 will do some really weird stuff with the lighter bullets on the body, but the rifle 'found' was a long action & was shown in a cardboard gun box, wouldn't the cops have shown it in the towel? lots of inconsistencies in this whole dog & pony show, don't think we'll ever get the real story.
 
Called the Crack/Thump, good way to tell the distance the shooter is at.
More thoughts to consider, a close-up of the guys chest show nipples so no vest & the .30 cal from either .308 or 30-06 is still carrying a lot of energy & should plow through a neck-sized target at that distance (animal & human necks are VERY different), but no exit wound or spatter on the white boards behind him, I know bullets can do strange things, but momentum from 150gr to 220gr bullets tend to go through a human target & would tend to tear up the body (neck) more, a 5.56/.223 will do some really weird stuff with the lighter bullets on the body, but the rifle 'found' was a long action & was shown in a cardboard gun box, wouldn't the cops have shown it in the towel? lots of inconsistencies in this whole dog & pony show, don't think we'll ever get the real story.
Ballistic tip? Heard they don’t always have exits, would need to see the ME report I guess to see if it split on impact
 
Ballistic tip? Heard they don’t always have exits, would need to see the ME report I guess to see if it split on impact
Ballistic tips do open up hard, I would expect more damage to the neck & a pass through, have a look at .308's hitting ballistic gel, it theoretically corresponds to muscle tissue & a human neck is relatively weak. A ballistic tip in a chest & yes, no exit.
 
Damn you know your stuff! Do you think this is a tipping point with the Right and Left? Even his wife alluded to the fact that this is going to be battle call to his supporters... Man this year is going to be on record as the most fucked up year in a very long time. I can't believe everything that has happened. Everyone is saying they feel something big coming and with Nepal and now France, the insane weather, the orbs, fucking 3I Atlas, talk of the 2nd American Civil War.... It's like we're in another dimension. All this and we are just coming to fall. I am waiting for Godzilla to show up at this point! 😂 🤣
Zombies. Please. The nice, slow, Romero Zulus if possible... Not those spazzy zippy British fuckers ...
 
Called the Crack/Thump, good way to tell the distance the shooter is at.
More thoughts to consider, a close-up of the guys chest show nipples so no vest & the .30 cal from either .308 or 30-06 is still carrying a lot of energy & should plow through a neck-sized target at that distance (animal & human necks are VERY different), but no exit wound or spatter on the white boards behind him, I know bullets can do strange things, but momentum from 150gr to 220gr bullets tend to go through a human target & would tend to tear up the body (neck) more, a 5.56/.223 will do some really weird stuff with the lighter bullets on the body, but the rifle 'found' was a long action & was shown in a cardboard gun box, wouldn't the cops have shown it in the towel? lots of inconsistencies in this whole dog & pony show, don't think we'll ever get the real story.
Mauser makes some very capable 6 and 7mill rifles.
 
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