Columbia University agrees to Trump demands in effort to restore federal funding

[Christopher Hitchens]

Ivy League schools. Harvard has a $53,000,000,000 endowment. Yep, $53 billion and they are threatening to close their medical school over $400 million in grants from the US Government?

Why the fuck do they get almost 1/2 billion from taxpayers anyway? They are even tax exempt! They don’t pay a dime into the system, they are sitting on $53 billion and they need tax dollars. What world are we living in?

Because universities are extremely important that’s why. It’s like aski go why do taxpayers fund high schools.

I will say though that i think there is a lot of bloat in the university system and the college loan system. I would solve that by socializing the university system more so the government could control prices more but right wingers would make it a less regulated free market.

 

[chewbok]

Because universities are extremely important that’s why. It’s like aski go why do taxpayers fund high schools.

I will say though that i think there is a lot of bloat in the university system and the college loan system. I would solve that by socializing the university system more so the government could control prices more but right wingers would make it a less regulated free market.

I agree with the value of higher education, but there are so many small, highly effective colleges that are barely scraping by. Perhaps funding the smaller colleges and other institutions that truly need the funding would be more effective in providing advanced educational opportunities to more needy students instead of funding the most elite of the elite universities in the US, who by the way sits on more than $53 billion in endowments, a figure that increases by almost $750,000,000 every year.

I am absolutely pro higher education and I am not anti-Ivy League. I am proud of my University of Colorado degree but an MBA from Harvard would be much nicer.

I feel like the opportunity to earn a BA/BS degree should be available to anyone with the intellectual ability and willingness to put in the effort required. There are countless individuals who have both the intellect and the desire to learn who are limited only by depth their pocketbooks.

There are also a large number of people that may not have the intellect or true desire to learn that are in college due mainly to their family finances.

I agree that some level of “socialized” higher education is needed but I also think the limited funding the US Government has allocated to education should be distributed using institutional financial need as one criteria. A tax exempt institution sitting on $53 billion dollars wouldn’t appear to be an institution in need of
Federal funding.

We are also facing the reality that receiving a liberal arts college degree simply shows a minimal level of intellect and motivation without developing any particular skill set.

The days of an employer requiring a BA/BS for non-technical jobs are over. “Trade schools” and other skill specific educations make sense. I feel like we need to offer funding in these areas too.

AA degrees that produce employment ready people like Nursing, welding, electrician, carpentry, and the like should be funded along with the legacy 4 year programs.

You and I are close to being on the same page but I still think the political clout of Ivy League schools result in their receiving a disproportionate amount of funding. They don’t need it. Let’s for fund the schools that do.

 

[chewbok]

Alternatively let them keep their endowments and make degrees free dependant on obtaining the right pre requ marks to get in. Then you educate to tertiary level a bigger slice of the population who, given better aptitude, may make better use of it.

Damn Wiggins. You make sense like always but the Ivy League schools will never change. They offer free tuition to just enough of their token black, Latino, gay, trans, disabled and all other woke and sleeping categories to keep everyone “represented”.

Their goal is to keep their blue blood legacy folks happy while pretending to care about the rest of us.

It’s an edification printing press used to insure the proper indoctrination of the next generation for the families that actually run US politics and through politics the economy.

Unlike the US 4 year election cycle, the “public face” of the US Government intended to make its citizens feel like they have say in the direction the US is on, these institutions work on the actual 25, 50, 100 year goals the elite have laid out. They are “diverse” in that they recruit and educate Republicans and Dems insuring that regardless of the political affiliation of the President and majority on congress, Ivy League plans will be executed and they will be “represented”. This representation also insures the continuity of their government funding. Not only US. The Chinese Govt also provides hundreds of millions a year.

They will survive…I would rather see my tax dollars funding community colleges training nurses, welders, electricians, carpenters etc. along with funding am the small, non-woke driven institutions whose aim is to actually educate students, not make them little political puppets.

I know you have problems of your own down under, but you have a good grasp of this US problem.

 

[wiggins]

Damn Wiggins. You make sense like always but the Ivy League schools will never change. They offer free tuition to just enough of their token black, Latino, gay, trans, disabled and all other woke and sleeping categories to keep everyone “represented”.

Their goal is to keep their blue blood legacy folks happy while pretending to care about the rest of us.

It’s an edification printing press used to insure the proper indoctrination of the next generation for the families that actually run US politics and through politics the economy.

Unlike the US 4 year election cycle, the “public face” of the US Government intended to make its citizens feel like they have say in the direction the US is on, these institutions work on the actual 25, 50, 100 year goals the elite have laid out. They are “diverse” in that they recruit and educate Republicans and Dems insuring that regardless of the political affiliation of the President and majority on congress, Ivy League plans will be executed and they will be “represented”. This representation also insures the continuity of their government funding. Not only US. The Chinese Govt also provides hundreds of millions a year.

They will survive…I would rather see my tax dollars funding community colleges training nurses, welders, electricians, carpenters etc. along with funding am the small, non-woke driven institutions whose aim is to actually educate students, not make them little political puppets.

I know you have problems of your own down under, but you have a good grasp of this US problem.

I know Chewbok. It's the same here.

What we refer to as our 'Sandstone Universities', as they were the orginals built from locally cut sandstone, are our equivilents of ivy league. Their Vice Principals get renumeration of over a million bucks a year and are radically activising the culture with this mad 'indigenisation' of all degrees, including law and medicine. What, a hundred or so years ago, was a happending few tribes and clans, now a bunch of people living on welfare and illiterate in both their old ways and our new ones, can offer medicine and law I just do not understand.

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

I agree with the value of higher education, but there are so many small, highly effective colleges that are barely scraping by. Perhaps funding the smaller colleges and other institutions that truly need the funding would be more effective in providing advanced educational opportunities to more needy students instead of funding the most elite of the elite universities in the US, who by the way sits on more than $53 billion in endowments, a figure that increases by almost $750,000,000 every year.

I am absolutely pro higher education and I am not anti-Ivy League. I am proud of my University of Colorado degree but an MBA from Harvard would be much nicer.

I feel like the opportunity to earn a BA/BS degree should be available to anyone with the intellectual ability and willingness to put in the effort required. There are countless individuals who have both the intellect and the desire to learn who are limited only by depth their pocketbooks.

There are also a large number of people that may not have the intellect or true desire to learn that are in college due mainly to their family finances.

I agree that some level of “socialized” higher education is needed but I also think the limited funding the US Government has allocated to education should be distributed using institutional financial need as one criteria. A tax exempt institution sitting on $53 billion dollars wouldn’t appear to be an institution in need of
Federal funding.

We are also facing the reality that receiving a liberal arts college degree simply shows a minimal level of intellect and motivation without developing any particular skill set.

The days of an employer requiring a BA/BS for non-technical jobs are over. “Trade schools” and other skill specific educations make sense. I feel like we need to offer funding in these areas too.

AA degrees that produce employment ready people like Nursing, welding, electrician, carpentry, and the like should be funded along with the legacy 4 year programs.

You and I are close to being on the same page but I still think the political clout of Ivy League schools result in their receiving a disproportionate amount of funding. They don’t need it. Let’s for fund the schools that do.

I agree with pretty much all of that. I would just like to add something. I think that we need to serious reform to our public school education. Before college because a lot of these kids are screwed by high school. The decline in English and math skills and also history and other education. It really is pathetic.

 

[chewbok]

I agree with pretty much all of that. I would just like to add something. I think that we need to serious reform to our public school education. Before college because a lot of these kids are screwed by high school. The decline in English and math skills and also history and other education. It really is pathetic.

💯 +++++++

 

[methedup77]

Where does all that money go? Tuition is already high as hell, and I'm sure that school has half a billion or more in endowment funds, so why do they STILL need ANOTHER $400 million? Is that to pay the protesters and buy signs and markers ?

Gimmeedats

 

[Solomon Kane]

Where does all that money go? Tuition is already high as hell, and I'm sure that school has half a billion or more in endowment funds, so why do they STILL need ANOTHER $400 million? Is that to pay the protesters and buy signs and markers ?

Research grants,

 

[chewbok]

Research grants,

The school owns all of the results of the research. They can sell it then the money goes into the college general fund to be used as the like, so yeah, they could route it to anyone and any cause they like.