NYC sightseeing helicopter plunges into river, killing 6, including family of Spanish tourists

[45cal1911]

A rich family from Spain on vacation and a Vet who always wanted to be a pilot. At least they all died living the dream.
Life tends to have a dark sense of humor sometimes I guess.

 

[hedgerow]

that's terrible, especially for those children...looks like the oldest only recently got adult maxillary central incisors, i remember how happy i was to get them

 

[Jenny]

Pilot was a ex navy SEAL

Humm, that complicates all the scenarios runnin' through my mind.

 

[tonyninetoes]

Pilot was a ex navy SEAL

But couldnt hold his breath under water or swim?

 

[K.I.T.T.]

But couldnt hold his breath under water or swim?

The impact is what killed them, not the water.

 

[tonyninetoes]

The impact is what killed them, not the water.

Do you have the autopsy report?
A few of them lived then died in hospital

 

[Graziani]

 

[K.I.T.T.]

Do you have the autopsy report?
A few of them lived then died in hospital

None of them were alive after the crash. The IMPACT killed them. That helicopter fell over a thousand feet and smacked into the water at full terminal velocity.

Their bodies were submerged for over an hour before rescuers retrieved them.

Did you even read the article, or are you just stupid?

 

[chewbok]

@chewbok
You still here man?

Been away. Thanks for noticing. We are all (jet Ranger community) about this one.

 

[chewbok]

Humm, that complicates all the scenarios runnin' through my mind.

He had almost 800 hrs as pilot in command of helicopters. Not a lot but plenty to fly a Jet Ranger VFR around NYC.

Seal? Maybe but that doesn’t really have anything to do worth things, does it? A lot of ex-military use their GI Bill benefits to learn how to fly.

 

[chewbok]

This one hurts. I didn’t know the pilot but the heli family is small. It’s hard to make jokes. I’m gonna sit on the sidelines until facts come out.

This type of thing doesn’t happen to Jet Rangers. It’s a one in millions deal regardless of whether geese, cracks, pilot or saboteurs caused it. RIP

 

[Donkeyd]

Helicopter crash New York City - PPRuNe Forums get all my info here

 

[chewbok]

Helicopter crash New York City - PPRuNe Forums get all my info here

That is a very legit info source! The pro insiders chat room…quietly read and learn. They don’t take kindly to BS or uninformed posts…

 

[chewbok]

This is a good primer for anyone wanting a basic understanding of helicopter operation and what the term everyone is throwing around, Mast Bump means in the context of a helicopter.

 

[chewbok]

Yeah, helicopters receive something like 100 hours of maintenance for every hour of flight time. Somebody knew those people were taking that ride and made sure they didn't come back.

KITT. You may be thinking about the B-2 bomber. Military planes may take that much maintenance. It’s closer to 1:3 or 1:4 for most civilian heli’s but your point well taken. Helicopters have a shitload of moving parts and they all have to work, every time.

Something more important is glide distance. An airplane’s wing generates its lift so they can glide a reasonable distance if their engine(s) stop. Typically a 10:1 ratio for a smaller plane meaning if they are 4 miles (20,000’) above the ground they can glide about 40 miles from the point they lose power. That offers quite a few options to land.

Helicopters generate lift by spinning their main rotor. When the engine(s) quit the pilot has to keep the rotor moving using its own momentum and air flowing over the rotor blades. It’s a dance. Done correctly this gives helicopters a glide ratio closer to that of a brick. 1:3 or 1:4 in a well executed autorotation. So for every foot you lose in altitude you can go 3-4’ forward.

Another problem with helicopters is they generally fly much lower than airplanes, like 1,000-2,000’ above the ground. This means you are pretty much fucked if you lose power.

Let’s take a helicopter that loses power at 1,500’. In the best of circumstances with a pilot doing everything right they will have about a 6,000 radius to chose a landing spot. Over a desert you may be ok. Over a big city not so ok.

The only advantage in a helicopter is that your forward speed will be close to zero when you touch down, so a parking lot or any other empty place will do to land.

In an airplane, where you will be going from 70-100mph or more when you touchdown you will need space to roll out, like 1 or 2,000 feet of clear space.

I know, thats long response to your maintenance comment, but you know me…

 

[latinladiesman77]

The pilot was a black dude. I know the last thing the father and mother were saying on the way down was,, " why did we trust this nigggggeerrrrr" lol

 

[tonyninetoes]

 

[tonyninetoes]

 

[tonyninetoes]

None of them were alive after the crash. The IMPACT killed them. That helicopter fell over a thousand feet and smacked into the water at full terminal velocity.

Their bodies were submerged for over an hour before rescuers retrieved them.

Did you even read the article, or are you just stupid?

I sure did view many articles/ reports in it and its been stated that there were 2 survivors who later died in hospital. Which could mean the other 4 were submerged for stated amount of time before retrieving them….. You fucking retarded spaz !

 

[K.I.T.T.]

I sure did view many articles/ reports in it and its been stated that there were 2 survivors who later died in hospital. Which could mean the other 4 were submerged for stated amount of time before retrieving them….. You fucking retarded spaz !

No you didn't.