War Ontario slaps 25% tax increase on electricity exports to US in response to Trump’s trade war

[K.I.T.T.]

Probably some feat of engineering, idk. I googled it and AI told me it was solar 🤷🏻‍♂️

It doesn't add up. Sounds like a clever scheme to convince people they're creating or using "green energy". The problem is, it takes an enormous amount of power to desalinate and process water to render it fit for splitting into hydrogen and oxygen. The entire process can't be done by solar power alone. To put this into perspective, it would take a solar panel about 12 square feet exposed to direct sunlight for about two hours to desalinate one gallon of water. That gallon of desalinated water will produce just enough hydrogen that when burned would produce less than 1000th the energy required to desalinate the water to begin with. Then you have to factor in the disposal of the salt and other debris in the water...

Solar power directly converted to electricity is the way to go. Solar to hydrogen conversion was proven inefficient decades ago.

 

[hedgerow]

I've been attending my gambling anonymous groups so I will have to respectfully decline your attempt to perhaps remove me from such an enjoyable site.
That said [...]

are you really part of gambling anonymous or was that just a funny haha? I never would have bet you if i had known

 

[hedgerow]

forget about all this renewable energy nonsense...the US has immense reserves of fossil fuels to provide cheap energy, so why isn't it utilizing it?

nuclear, oil, and coal are the way to go...new coal plants are cleaner (scrubbers and shit) and probably the best way forward, as the US still has an over 300 year supply of coal

 

[(G.O.A.T.) Tubemonkey]

are you really part of gambling anonymous or was that just a funny haha? I never would have bet you if i had known

No, they're not a gambling addict, they're a liar. The numbnut just comes around spewing ignorant talking points learned in occupy democrat chatrooms. He knows his arguments can't hold any water and knows taking the bet would put him out to pasture for another extended timeframe.

 

[hedgerow]

No, they're not a gambling addict, they're a liar. The numbnut just comes around spewing ignorant talking points learned in occupy democrat chatrooms. He knows his arguments can't hold any water and knows taking the bet would put him out to pasture for another extended timeframe.

so SK is blaming imaginary afflictions to run away from a bet

^SK (in cap) and friends

 

[hedgerow]

Too much soy

to be more environmental friendly, car makers began using soy based wiring...rodents love to chew on car wires now

 

[K.I.T.T.]

forget about all this renewable energy nonsense...the US has immense reserves of fossil fuels to provide cheap energy, so why isn't it utilizing it?

nuclear, oil, and coal are the way to go...new coal plants are cleaner (scrubbers and shit) and probably the best way forward, as the US still has an over 300 year supply of coal

I sincerely hope you're being facetious. Oil and coal are terrible in so many ways. Nuclear isn't too bad, but there are some inherent risks and negative environmental effects such as heat dissipating into rivers, raising the water temperatures and killing wildlife.

The technology is already available to supply free, clean and limitless electricity to every corner of the globe. The reason we'll never see it is money. There's nothing on this planet that can't be monetized in the name of greed.

 

[Solomon Kane]

No, they're not a gambling addict, they're a liar. The numbnut just comes around spewing ignorant talking points learned in occupy democrat chatrooms. He knows his arguments can't hold any water and knows taking the bet would put him out to pasture for another extended timeframe.

Coming straight from the MAGA man himself. Never counters the argument just post a dookie emoji because he knows deep down he's full of shit and hate.
Perfect place for a basement virgin.

 

[Choppy]

Look at all you butt hurt pissed off Mericans...fuckn A budz. But in all seriousness the world would do so much if we didnt have retards like Tronald Dump and Trudumb running it. I look forward to the day that every country can get along , trade well and just the whole world lives in harmony. Such a shame we have so many retarded fucks in this world that will never let that happen.

 

[Choppy]

I sincerely hope you're being facetious. Oil and coal are terrible in so many ways. Nuclear isn't too bad, but there are some inherent risks and negative environmental effects such as heat dissipating into rivers, raising the water temperatures and killing wildlife.

The technology is already available to supply free, clean and limitless electricity to every corner of the globe. The reason we'll never see it is money. There's nothing on this planet that can't be monetized in the name of greed.

Coal is needed for steel. You all for wooden sky scrapers?

 

[(G.O.A.T.) Tubemonkey]

Coming straight from the MAGA man himself. Never counters the argument just post a dookie emoji because he knows deep down he's full of shit and hate.
Perfect place for a basement virgin.

You don't make a single point worth counter debate. You are just in TDS meltdown mode and I find that glorious. Going to be a delightful 4 years of watching you squirm and spin your wheels.

 

[K.I.T.T.]

Coal is needed for steel. You all for wooden sky scrapers?

That's a valid point, but I was referring to the burning of coal as an electrical source.

 

[Choppy]

That's a valid point, but I was referring to the burning of coal as an electrical source.

Yeah, fuck that shit.

 

[hedgerow]

Yeah, fuck that shit.

so coal bad, got it

 

[Choppy]

so coal bad, got it

Its only good for steel.

 

[Fäthër Cörpsë]

Its only good for steel.

And jobs.

 

[Fäthër Cörpsë]

Look at all you butt hurt pissed off Mericans...fuckn A budz. But in all seriousness the world would do so much if we didnt have retards like Tronald Dump and Trudumb running it. I look forward to the day that every country can get along , trade well and just the whole world lives in harmony. Such a shame we have so many retarded fucks in this world that will never let that happen.

Can’t wait to make you American 😍

 

[Choppy]

Can’t wait to make you American 😍

No thank you 😒

 

[wiggins]

TORONTO (AP) — Ontario’s premier, the leader of Canada’s most populous province, announced that effective Monday it is charging 25% more for electricity to 1.5 million Americans in response to U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade war.

Ontario provides electricity to Minnesota, New York and Michigan.

“I will not hesitate to increase this charge. If the United State escalates, I will not hesitate to shut the electricity off completely,” Ontario Premier Doug Ford said at a news conference in Toronto.

“Believe me when I say I do not want to do this. I feel terrible for the American people who didn’t start this trade war. It’s one person who is responsible, it’s President Trump.”

Ford said Ontario’s tariff would remain in place despite the one-month reprieve from Trump, noting a one-month pause means nothing but more uncertainty. Quebec is also considering taking similar measures with electricity exports to the U.S.

Ford’s office said the new market rules require any generator selling electricity to the U.S. to add a 25% surcharge. Ontario’s government expects it to generate revenue of $300,000 Canadian dollars ($208,000) to CA$400,000 ($277,000) per day, “which will be used to support Ontario workers, families and businesses.”

The new surcharge is in addition to the federal government’s initial CA$30 billion ($21 billion) worth of retaliatory tariffs have been applied on items like American orange juice, peanut butter, coffee, appliances, footwear, cosmetics, motorcycles and certain pulp and paper products.

Trade war intensifies
Trump launched a new trade war last week by imposing tariffs against Washington’s three biggest trading partners, drawing immediate retaliation from Mexico, Canada and China and sending financial markets into a tailspin.

Trump later said he has postponed 25% tariffs on many goods from Canada and Mexico for a month, amid widespread fears of a broader trade war.

Ford estimated it will add about CA$100 ($69) a month to the bills of each American affected.

“It needs to end. Until these tariffs are off the table, until the threat of tariffs is gone for good, Ontario will not relent,” Ford said.

Ford said Trump changes his mind every day, but if he continues to attack Canada he will do everything it takes to maximize the pain.

“Republicans, at least the ones I speak to, do not agree with President Trump but they are too scared to go out there and say it publicly,” Ford said. “It’s a shame but we need to end this.”

Trump has urged U.S. automakers to move auto production from Canada and Mexico to the U.S. Last week Trump granted a one-month exemption to 25% tariffs on vehicles and auto parts traded through the North American trade agreement USMCA after speaking with leaders of automakers Ford, General Motors and Stellantis. Ontario is the auto sector hub of Canada.

Premier Ford also noted Trump is threatening Canada with steel, aluminum and diary tariffs.

“I will do whatever it takes to maximum the pain against Americans,” Ford said.

Stephen Lecce, Ontario’s minister of energy and electrification, said the U.S. needs Canada’s power and it could impact other states as well as the three states often resale Ontario’s electricity. “It is regrettable we are here,” Lecce said.

Read more here.

Trump sells Canada to Russia...

 

[tonyninetoes]

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