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'Paper or plastic?' will no longer be a choice at California grocery stores

Yahoo News excerpt:
‘Roughly 10 years after California tried and failed to ban plastic bags at grocery stores, state lawmakers have passed a law that they say will forever end the choice of "paper or plastic" in checkout lanes.

“Instead of being asked do you want paper or plastic at checkout, consumers will simply be asked if they want a paper bag,” said state Sen. Catherine Blakespear (D-Encinitas). “This easy change eliminates plastic bags from the point of sale and helps California significantly reduce the plastic waste that is contaminating our environment and waters.”

Blakespear and Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-Orinda) had introduced identical legislation — Assembly Bill 2236 and Senate Bill 1053 — that sought to close the loophole that allows grocery stores to offer "reusable" plastic bags at the checkout line for a small fee. The legislation was approved Wednesday and now goes to Gov. Gavin Newsom's desk for signing.

Earlier this year, the consumer advocacy group CALPIRG released a report showing that 157,385 tons of plastic bag waste was discarded in California in 2014, and that by 2021, the tonnage of discarded plastic bags had skyrocketed to 231,072 — a 47% jump. Even accounting for an increase in population, the number rose from 4.08 tons per 1,000 people in 2014 to 5.89 tons per 1,000 people in 2021.

The reason for the increase, experts say, is that a 2014 law that aimed to ban plastic bag use allowed grocers to offer customers thick, heavier plastic bags that could theoretically be reused after purchase. In reality, however, those bags found little use after customers unloaded their groceries at home.

"So on average, people use a plastic bag for 12 minutes to take their groceries home, and then it remains in our environment for hundreds of years, breaking down into microplastics and polluting our soils and our waterways and our own human body," Blakespear said at a news conference this week.’

Full Article:'Paper or plastic?' will no longer be a choice at California grocery stores
 
Since 2010 here in England, a 5p fee is added to the customers' shopping total for each plastic bag taken, and this greatly reduced (new) plastic bag usage.

I remember prior to that, the streets would have a significant amount of plastic bags roaming in the air, it was not the most beautiful thing one could have ever filmed.
 
Yahoo News excerpt:
‘Roughly 10 years after California tried and failed to ban plastic bags at grocery stores, state lawmakers have passed a law that they say will forever end the choice of "paper or plastic" in checkout lanes.

“Instead of being asked do you want paper or plastic at checkout, consumers will simply be asked if they want a paper bag,” said state Sen. Catherine Blakespear (D-Encinitas). “This easy change eliminates plastic bags from the point of sale and helps California significantly reduce the plastic waste that is contaminating our environment and waters.”

Blakespear and Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-Orinda) had introduced identical legislation — Assembly Bill 2236 and Senate Bill 1053 — that sought to close the loophole that allows grocery stores to offer "reusable" plastic bags at the checkout line for a small fee. The legislation was approved Wednesday and now goes to Gov. Gavin Newsom's desk for signing.

Earlier this year, the consumer advocacy group CALPIRG released a report showing that 157,385 tons of plastic bag waste was discarded in California in 2014, and that by 2021, the tonnage of discarded plastic bags had skyrocketed to 231,072 — a 47% jump. Even accounting for an increase in population, the number rose from 4.08 tons per 1,000 people in 2014 to 5.89 tons per 1,000 people in 2021.

The reason for the increase, experts say, is that a 2014 law that aimed to ban plastic bag use allowed grocers to offer customers thick, heavier plastic bags that could theoretically be reused after purchase. In reality, however, those bags found little use after customers unloaded their groceries at home.

"So on average, people use a plastic bag for 12 minutes to take their groceries home, and then it remains in our environment for hundreds of years, breaking down into microplastics and polluting our soils and our waterways and our own human body," Blakespear said at a news conference this week.’

Full Article:'Paper or plastic?' will no longer be a choice at California grocery stores
Don't forget to film it.
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it used to be paper bags. these same people who changed it from paper to plastic were worried about the consumption of paper used with comparison to trees being cut for these paper bags. so they then decided plastic would be a better option. because "save the trees". fast forward 40 or so yrs later,these very same people are worried about the oceans and sea life. yet, theyre the ones who caused this in the first place!
all the while they could have been using hemp products. then again.... these are the very same people who gave hemp a "bad rap" (because of influential reasons ($$$) ) and said its bad. now hemp is being used in more ways than one. ie reusable cloth bags. one that can be used for shopping,for instance!
 
Who gives a fuck you jobless dipshit? If they have a brain in their head, they can just bring in a few reusable bags and boom, problem solved. Or just take the shopping cart to their vehicle and toss the shit in their trunk. Stop making stupid threads.
Poor Sabu, if you had taken the time to actual read it instead of just coming to my threads to stalk me you would learn that they did try the reusable, they made those thicker plastic bags and charged 10 cents for them in the hope people would reuse them and they overwhelmingly didn’t. So more plastic in the end is being used. Now kids my ass BuBu and go get a therapist and begin to face the darkness in your heart and soul.

Fun fact - my wife’s grandfather produced the first plastic produce bags in NW United States, and made a killing at it. Legacy money to this day still sizable in her trust.
Dang that’s pretty cool! I wish I could see what those bags looked like. When was this? In the 40s or something?
 
Poor Sabu, if you had taken the time to actual read it instead of just coming to my threads to stalk me you would learn that they did try the reusable, they made those thicker plastic bags and charged 10 cents for them in the hope people would reuse them and they overwhelmingly didn’t. So more plastic in the end is being used. Now kids my ass BuBu and go get a therapist and begin to face the darkness in your heart and soul.


Dang that’s pretty cool! I wish I could see what those bags looked like. When was this? In the 40s or something?
You are truly mentally challenged. They can bring a few tote bags...what I was implying. But hey, did you look for a job yet?
 
Do y'all not have reusable bags? I swear that's the reason totes were trendy.
Yea we do and some people use them but not many. The plastic bags they made thicker and started charging 10c for them but it turns out almost no one was reusing them. I do but as it says in the article the average time before throwing these thicker bags out was only hours. Another case of a law having unintended consequences and backfiring. That’s an old story as you know.

Don't forget to film it.
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I don’t get it, write better. Wangy, you have the brains of an earthworm and the charm of Harvey Weinstein, you might want to work on that…

it used to be paper bags. these same people who changed it from paper to plastic were worried about the consumption of paper used with comparison to trees being cut for these paper bags. so they then decided plastic would be a better option. because "save the trees". fast forward 40 or so yrs later,these very same people are worried about the oceans and sea life. yet, theyre the ones who caused this in the first place!
all the while they could have been using hemp products. then again.... these are the very same people who gave hemp a "bad rap" (because of influential reasons ($$$) ) and said its bad. now hemp is being used in more ways than one. ie reusable cloth bags. one that can be used for shopping,for instance!
I am biased because I love the Marijauana plant so I am with you on more hemp products. I don’t think the retail industry switched to plastic for environmental reason, plastic bags are just more durable. I remember when I was a kid my grandma would get paper bags and they would tear and just inferior bags.

As far as “saving the trees”. I think that’s dumb because the higher demand for paper the more trees will be grown. Also, maybe you know the statistic, but there are more trees now in North America then some centuries ago or something like that.

You are truly mentally challenged. They can bring a few tote bags...what I was implying. But hey, did you look for a job yet?
You’re not gonna admit you didn’t read the article. Yes they can bring totes but most people don’t want to be bothered to do that apparently.
 
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Yea we do and some people use them but not many. The plastic bags they made thicker and started charging 10c for them but it turns out almost no one was reusing them. I do but as it says in the article the average time before throwing these thicker bags out was only hours. Another case of a law having unintended consequences and backfiring. That’s an old story as you know.


I don’t get it, write better. Wangy, you have the brains of an earthworm and the charm of Harvey Weinstein, you might want to work on that…


I am biased because I love the Marijauana plant so I am with you on more hemp products. I don’t think the retail industry switched to plastic for environmental reason, plastic bags are just more durable. I remember when I was a kid my grandma would get paper bags and they would tear and just inferior bags.

As far as “saving the trees”. I think that’s dumb because the higher demand for paper the more trees will be grown. Also, maybe you know the statistic, but there are more trees now in North America then some centuries ago or something like that.


You’re not gonna admit you didn’t read the article. Yes they can bring totes but most people don’t want to be bothered to do that apparently.
Again. You're mentally challenged. Don't forget your tote bag while shopping on your dad's dime. Perhaps apply for a job while you're there.
 
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