Men's Rights Corner

[Blaine]

A lot of you have no idea what Blaine is on about when it comes to men's rights issues and how feminism has gone from a once-legitimate movement to a hate machine intent on emasculating Western men. (Note that most rank-and-file feminists don't realize how bigoted and hateful feminism really is; the fault lies primarily with feminist leaders.) In this thread, you'll get to read about issues that the feminist-dominated, politically correct media chooses to ignore.

It should also be noted that men's rights advocates such as myself aren't misogynists by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, there are female men's rights advocates and even female anti-feminists; many of them are mothers of sons or wives of husbands who've witnessed the vile effects of feminist activism on their loved ones. More on that later.

Let's start off with something fairly mild — the feminist takeover of American colleges and universities. Here is testimony from a father whose son is attending college:

I have one son about to graduate college and another in graduate school. I have heard all the overt feminist crap that happens on campus from them.

Quite a bit has changed since I went to college. Almost all for the worse.

My older son and a bunch of his classmates formed a study group called the "Machine Punk Einsteins" , there were 30 or so in the group, all Physics and Math Majors. And yes, all male. They used an empty classroom 3 times a week with a professors blessing until a number of women began agitating and complaining that there were no girls in the study group, so the administration told them they could not use the classroom. Lucky for them the professor was an elderly man who found a local company near campus that was into supporting Math and Science study groups. So they studied off campus with working Physics and Mathematical engineers and scientists. Mostly male, but a few women too.

When my son told me of being kicked out of a classroom on university property because they wanted to have an all male study group, well I got very pissed off and called the college and had a few heated discussions with the administration. The university actively supported female only study groups, even provided refreshments and some food. When I pointed this out to one crass female administrator, and told her it was blatant sexism and bias, the comment that really set me off was " I can see from your perception that you would see it that way". I still remember that comment and it really set me off.

There were a lot of complaints against the University on what I listed above, the net outcome was that the student council eliminated funding for refreshments and food for the girls only study groups, but not to fear, women boosters swooped in and restored the girls Fresca's, Coffee, and munchies.

The male students were offered back the classrooms for their study groups as long as they made them "more inclusive" meaning include females. According to my son the only group that accepted were a group of male Psychology Majors. The rest of the men felt quite slighted, but they had found alternative venues for study, a lot of them with local businesses.

Dating according to my son was like walking through a minefield on a moonless night (his exact metaphor). There were rankings on the girls at the college on secured websites, not all of them were looks, but risk factors.

Some were "Caution" come were "All Clear", some were "Danger", and some were "Will Robinson". Took me a bit to get the meaning of the last one after my son listed them out. "Dad, You know, the robot", "Um, The Robot?". "Lost in Space". Now it made sense: "Danger Will Robinson, Danger, Danger, Danger"

At first this seemed like a bit of dumb college boys stuff, but it dawned on me that these boys were sharing information and doing risk assessments to cover their asses since the campus administration and police, in league with the campus feminists groups were scouring the students looking for Date Rapists, Date Rape Drug Rapists, Rapists under every stone. When that failed, there was always sexual abuse.

He said there were a lot of sexually aggressive girls on the campus, normally a man's wonderful dream. The problem according to him is that a lot of those girls were shakedown artists, once you had sex with them, you would be "punked" for money, help with tuition, new computer gear, and so forth. Piss em off and they'd lie to the cops, the administration to try to fuck you over.

I had no idea college life had gotten so challenging on the dating scene and everything else.

 

[Blaine]

My first follow-up is a video by a female men's rights sympathizer entitled "Feminism and the Disposable Male."

"Disposable male," for those of you who aren't familiar, is a term used to describe the widely held belief that the lives of women are more valuable than the lives of men. This phenomenon manifests itself in various ways, such as: Only men are required to register for the draft, 95% of military casualties are men, men are 20x more likely to die on the job (because men do most of the dangerous jobs), and in an emergency situation, everyone is expected to put women's lives before those of men (example: if a man and a woman are in a burning building, it's expected that the female should be rescued first).

Now, the problem with this is twofold: Number one, it's no longer necessary to protect women's lives above those of men, because there are now nearly 7 billion human beings and we don't live in tiny tribes and villages anymore. Number two, although men are still expected to put women's lives before their own, the privileges and accolades of manhood that used to accompany that expectation of sacrifice are being systematically stripped away.

 

[Torque Button]

Personally I have never had any issue with feminists or any thought of men's rights, nor fear of others while shopping.

 

[Blaine]

Just FYI, I will not waste time responding to troll posts in this thread. Troll and flame to your heart's content, but there'll be no reciprocity from my end. Genuine attempts at discussion, debate, criticism or what-have-you are welcome and I will respond in kind.

 

[mrln]

when it all comes down to it at the end of the day,were equal really. im sayin is,a female needs a male for procreation and vece versa. a woman can be ensaminated sure,but it needs a human host.
i think these women who "take advantage" of the fact that men are pretty much their protectors and providers. theyll be against us but expect something from us at the same time,as ive previously mentioned. im all for women being independent,but dont go all bitching at us at the same time. these women should appreciate that its not "back in the day" where they get slapped around and told to sit down and shut up!

 

[Blaine]

when it all comes down to it at the end of the day,were equal really. im sayin is,a female needs a male for procreation and vece versa. a woman can be ensaminated sure,but it needs a human host.

Keep in mind that where procreation is concerned, every woman counts. 100 women and 1 man can make ~120 babies in 9 months (including twins and etc.), whereas 100 men and 1 woman can make perhaps 1-2 babies in 9 months. That's the reason why, in the old days (when people lived in small and/or tribal communities), protecting women was absolutely vital. Populations that didn't adequately protect their women simply died out.

Now, though, human civilization is massive. There is no chance whatsoever of "running low on women" in an industrialized society, barring a worldwide cataclysm of some kind. We could place women on the frontlines of battle and in dangerous professions now with absolutely no fear of our populations dwindling as a result. Unfortunately, that fundamental urge to sacrifice men in order to protect women still remains.

Feminists (many of them, at any rate) want to have their cake and eat it, too. This is reflected in all of their activism. They want to be paid exactly the same wages as men, but they aren't particularly inclined to take on more physically difficult and/or dangerous jobs. Physically difficult and/or dangerous jobs tend to pay very well nowadays — a Southwest Virginian coal miner can make up to $100,000 a year, for example, without even working full-time. That's a lot of money for a rural area in the US.

i thinks these woman who "take advantage" of the fact that men are pretty much their protectors and providers. theyll be against us but expect something from us at the same time,as ive previously mentioned. im all for women being independent,but dont go all bitching at us at the same time.

Your wording leaves a bit to be desired, but in essence, I agree with you. Most men's rights activists believe approximate equality was achieved a decade or two ago, and that at this point, feminism seeks "reparations" from men. They want to retain all of their "special female privileges" while also having their "fair share" of the traditional "special male privileges."

I have two lists: One of the top 50 male privileges as written by a feminist, and one of the top 50 female privileges as written by an MRA (men's rights activist). I will post them here later for everyone's perusal.

 

[Turdy McSmutbags]

I applaud this thread. It's hard to address this issue without appearing to be misogynistic.
I would also like to point out there is a direct link between aggressive feminist activism and the decline in chivalry.

 

[Blaine]

I applaud this thread. It's hard to address this issue without appearing to be misogynistic.

That's by feminist design — anyone who disagrees with them is labeled a sexist bigot. Meanwhile, feminists themselves typically get away with blatantly misandry, and are allowed to champion anti-male causes and legislation with little or no opposition.

Men who complain about men's rights issues are often called pussies, told to "man up," told that women's problems are worse than/more important than men's problems, and so on. Feminists typically support and often engage in this deeply hypocritical behavior.

A lot of men still do believe that women's problems are far worse in both scope and severity. These days, that's a complete and utter fallacy.

I would also like to point out there is a direct link between aggressive feminist activism and the decline in chivalry.

There is. There's also evidence that young men who once were fairly eager to marry are becoming increasingly reluctant to do so. There's terrible bias against men in the courtroom in matters of divorce, custody issues, and alimony. Abusive women aren't taken as seriously nor punished anywhere near as severely as abusive men.

Even sealing the deal is more burdensome for men than for women. Engagement rings costing thousands of dollars are more-or-less expected of men, while marriages in the 2000s are now often paid for by both families, rather than the bride's.

 

[Torque Button]

How does a person such as Jessica Lynch play into this bigger scheme of things. The male dominated military played the "poor Jessica" to the hilt. All of which was fabrication, she was no valiant warrior who fought to her last bullet. She never fired a single round yet the US military and Bush sold their version of reality to bolster their war in Iraq.

Marriage without children in present or future plan is stupid at best(gender has nothing to do with stupid). Expensive weddings are a bigger joke, let both families swallow the pill. It serves them right for buying into it.

 

[C_R]

My friend sent me an article. i think maybe it's relevant to this thread.

this is the link for if you have fb http://apps.facebook.com/theguardian/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men

 

[C_R]

Ahh, also here's a documentary. I think this is still very much on topic

Produced by the Refugee Law Project, this documentary explores "the hidden world of sexual and gender-based violence against men in the conflicts of the Great Lakes region." It is a movie about men, violence, and the inability of society to recognise or address male vulnerability in times of conflict. The movie is intended to raise as many questions as it gives answers in its quest for an honest examination of the gender stereotypes underlying mainstream approaches to sexual and gender based violence.

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[Blaine]

My friend sent me an article. i think maybe it's relevant to this thread.

this is the link for if you have fb http://apps.facebook.com/theguardian/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men

Here's a non-FB link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men

Yes, that's definitely relevant. I read the exact article a while back. Turns out men are raped or sexually abused by other men plenty often in conflict-stricken areas — it's just severely under-reported and largely unrecognized. In addition and as a result, such men generally receive very little aid or sympathy.

It's a complicated issue, of course... the abuses are being committed by men against other men, after all. Be that as it may, in an ethical world, male victims would receive the same recognition, aid and sympathy as any female victim.

Ultimately, I think this can all be traced back to the "Disposable Male" phenomenon. Men fight and die on the frontlines of battle, they must be strong and aggressive, they're groomed to see themselves as disposable, and by the way... we'll sweep all these raped men under the carpet. Female rape is far more newsworthy and deserving of sympathy.

It also turns out that a lot of male rape victims in wartime are raped and then killed. Women are far more often raped and then allowed to live. It's nice to have the option of moving on with one's life, at least.

 

[sickfuck]

"rights" are imaginary where i come from. america told me so.

 

[wino]

I applaud this thread. It's hard to address this issue without appearing to be misogynistic.
I would also like to point out there is a direct link between aggressive feminist activism and the decline in chivalry.

pehaps thats why when I open doors for women I hardly eva get a thank you or so much as a nod.


I still do tho

 

[mrln]

Here's a non-FB link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men

Turns out men are raped or sexually abused by other men plenty often in conflict-stricken areas — it's just severely under-reported and largely unrecognized. In addition and as a result, such men generally receive very little aid or sympathy.

It's a complicated issue, of course... the abuses are being committed by men against other men, after all. Be that as it may, in an ethical world, male victims would receive the same recognition, aid and sympathy as any female victim.

especially men in jail. the spanish do it because its sex and getting laid. its no big deal. they fuck each other! but out of jail,its considered gay and they dont talk,let alone think about it! then theres guys who do it, just because purposes and they can. sad really......

 

[Blaine]

All right fags, here come the [Gender] Privilege Checklists. Note that the Male Privilege Checklist was written in response to the Female Privilege Checklist, which in turn was written by a crazed, man-hating feminist zealot (for reals).

The Female Privilege Checklist gets to go first because the Male Privilege Checklist held the door for it and, as we all know, ladies first.

The Female Privilege Checklist

1. On average I will get much lighter punishment for the same crime.
2. PMS is usually considered an extenuating circumstance.
3. I am not expected to go to war or even drafted into the army.
4. It's always ladies first. Perhaps also children first, but always girls before boys.
5. I have special protection from domestic violence and supposedly female-only issues, unlike my male counterparts.
6. In a sex-related crime (e.g. groping), and in the absence of conflicting evidence, my word will have more weight than a man's.
7. If I am raped I can safely report it and my report will be taken seriously because there is a legal provision for it.
8. I can look at children for more than three seconds with no fear of being labelled a pedophile.
9. Usually, cases of female adult on male children sexual abuse aren't even considered in court.
10. Other cases of abuse are not given the same priority. Child abuse is only sexual in nature.
11. If I get a divorce, I will invariably get child custody.
12. If I get a divorce, chances are I will get alimony, even if there are no children.
13. There is much more funding for breast cancer research than for prostate or testicle cancer research.
14. If I marry a rich man so that I don't have to work, people will say I'm successful.
15. I am always protected from genital mutilation. Even in the few places where it is practiced, genital mutilation is sometimes illegal, only for my gender though.
16. I have a longer life expectancy.
17. There is a much lesser chance that I will be driven to suicide.
18. Retirement age for me is lower than for my male counterparts in most places.
19. The majority of the population in most of the western nations is the same gender as me.
20. I can fight for my gender's issues with no fear of being labelled a whiny sexist or a chauvinist pig.
21. Everybody, from a very young age, is taught that they must not hit me. There is a Spanish saying, “a las damas no se las toca ni con el pétalo de una rosa”, which translates as “ladies cannot be touched, not even with a rose petal”.
22. Due to accusations of sexism, many places now hire preferentially or exclusively women (and that's even ignoring the sex industry). Such discrimination is, in some places, law.
23. I have a much lower chance of being injured or dying for work-related reasons.
24. I have no pressure to be physically strong or to do most of the physically demanding work.
25. I have little pressure to be a breadwinner.
26. I can live with someone my own gender with no fear of being labelled a faggot.
27. Even if I do like my own gender I'm at an advantage – lesbians are generally better treated than gay males.
28. When I go to a bar, I get to decide whether or not to have sex tonight. Men are competitors; I am the judge.
29. I can get free entrances to bars and free drinks once I'm in.
30. Even if I don't, a male is usually expected to pay for me.
31. If there's a crime or some other wrong and I'm involved, chances are I will automatically considered a victim.
32. If I don't like one of my (male) co-workers, I can ruin their reputation with a sexual harassment accusation.
33. If I am straight I have it easier when looking for a male.
34. If I am straight I will never be friendzoned.
35. If I get a promotion it's gender equality, even if I didn't deserve it. If a male does it's sexism and I can freely denounce it.
36. I can show skin almost without fear of being arrested.
37. Even in colleges where most of the students are male, chances are a larger fraction of female applications are accepted.
38. I have a higher pain threshold.
39. Paradoxically I have much more protection from pain – I am never told to “woman up” or to “take it like a woman”.
40. Maternity leave is much more common and has more benefits than paternity leave.
41. I can freely show my emotions, including crying, with no fear of being labelled a pussy.
42. If I get to retire and am still single, nobody will question my sexual orientation.
43. Public restrooms for my gender are almost always spotless.
44. I have virtually no chance of finding a janitor of the opposite sex on the public restrooms for my gender. And even if I do, I can speak to the manager who will make sure it doesn't happen again.
45. Chances are I will never have someone of the opposite sex searching me, and my searches will be less invasive.
46. I can find sexist overtones in every negative situation, even if there aren't, and most people will believe me.
47. When it comes to sex, I'm not required to maintain an erection for a long time or have high levels of stamina; in fact, it is I who sets the bar and can humiliate men for under-performing.
48. Most of the best parts in choral music are written for my voice, whatever it may be. Such parts for males (usually tenors only) exist, but are much rarer.
49. I may verbally defuse or refuse to engage in physical altercation without it damaging my reputation or viability as a sex partner.
50. I have the privilege of being unaware of (or feigning ignorance about) my female privilege. After all, everybody knows the world is biased against females.

The Male Privilege Checklist

1. My odds of being hired for a job, when competing against female applicants, are probably skewed in my favor. The more prestigious the job, the larger the odds are skewed.
2. I can be confident that my co-workers won’t think I got my job because of my sex – even though that might be true.
3. If I am never promoted, it’s not because of my sex.
4. If I fail in my job or career, I can feel sure this won’t be seen as a black mark against my entire sex’s capabilities.
5. I am far less likely to face sexual harassment at work than my female co-workers are.
6. If I do the same task as a woman, and if the measurement is at all subjective, chances are people will think I did a better job.
7. If I’m a teen or adult, and if I can stay out of prison, my odds of being raped are relatively low.
8. On average, I am taught to fear walking alone after dark in average public spaces much less than my female counterparts are.
9. If I choose not to have children, my masculinity will not be called into question.
10. If I have children but do not provide primary care for them, my masculinity will not be called into question.
11. If I have children and provide primary care for them, I’ll be praised for extraordinary parenting if I’m even marginally competent.
12. If I have children and a career, no one will think I’m selfish for not staying at home.
13. If I seek political office, my relationship with my children, or who I hire to take care of them, will probably not be scrutinized by the press.
14. My elected representatives are mostly people of my own sex. The more prestigious and powerful the elected position, the more this is true.
15. When I ask to see “the person in charge,” odds are I will face a person of my own sex. The higher-up in the organization the person is, the surer I can be.
16. As a child, chances are I was encouraged to be more active and outgoing than my sisters.
17. As a child, I could choose from an almost infinite variety of children’s media featuring positive, active, non-stereotyped heroes of my own sex. I never had to look for it; male protagonists were (and are) the default.
18. As a child, chances are I got more teacher attention than girls who raised their hands just as often.
19. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether or not it has sexist overtones.
20. I can turn on the television or glance at the front page of the newspaper and see people of my own sex widely represented.
21. If I’m careless with my financial affairs it won’t be attributed to my sex.
22. If I’m careless with my driving it won’t be attributed to my sex.
23. I can speak in public to a large group without putting my sex on trial.
24. Even if I sleep with a lot of women, there is no chance that I will be seriously labeled a “slut,” nor is there any male counterpart to “slut-bashing.”
25. I do not have to worry about the message my wardrobe sends about my sexual availability.
26. My clothing is typically less expensive and better-constructed than women’s clothing for the same social status. While I have fewer options, my clothes will probably fit better than a woman’s without tailoring.
27. The grooming regimen expected of me is relatively cheap and consumes little time.
28. If I buy a new car, chances are I’ll be offered a better price than a woman buying the same car.
29. If I’m not conventionally attractive, the disadvantages are relatively small and easy to ignore.
30. I can be loud with no fear of being called a shrew. I can be aggressive with no fear of being called a bitch.
31. I can ask for legal protection from violence that happens mostly to men without being seen as a selfish special interest, since that kind of violence is called “crime” and is a general social concern. (Violence that happens mostly to women is usually called “domestic violence” or “acquaintance rape,” and is seen as a special interest issue.)
32. I can be confident that the ordinary language of day-to-day existence will always include my sex. “All men are created equal,” mailman, chairman, freshman, he.
33. My ability to make important decisions and my capability in general will never be questioned depending on what time of the month it is.
34. I will never be expected to change my name upon marriage or questioned if I don’t change my name.
35. The decision to hire me will not be based on assumptions about whether or not I might choose to have a family sometime soon.
36. Every major religion in the world is led primarily by people of my own sex. Even God, in most major religions, is pictured as male.
37. Most major religions argue that I should be the head of my household, while my wife and children should be subservient to me.
38. If I have a wife or live-in girlfriend, chances are we’ll divide up household chores so that she does most of the labor, and in particular the most repetitive and unrewarding tasks.
39. If I have children with my girlfriend or wife, I can expect her to do most of the basic childcare such as changing diapers and feeding.
40. If I have children with my wife or girlfriend, and it turns out that one of us needs to make career sacrifices to raise the kids, chances are we’ll both assume the career sacrificed should be hers.
41. Assuming I am heterosexual, magazines, billboards, television, movies, pornography, and virtually all of media is filled with images of scantily-clad women intended to appeal to me sexually. Such images of men exist, but are rarer.
42. In general, I am under much less pressure to be thin than my female counterparts are. If I am fat, I probably suffer fewer social and economic consequences for being fat than fat women do.
43. If I am heterosexual, it’s incredibly unlikely that I’ll ever be beaten up by a spouse or lover.
44. Complete strangers generally do not walk up to me on the street and tell me to “smile.”
45. Sexual harassment on the street virtually never happens to me. I do not need to plot my movements through public space in order to avoid being sexually harassed, or to mitigate sexual harassment. (More.)
46. On average, I am not interrupted by women as often as women are interrupted by men.
47. I have the privilege of being unaware of my male privilege.

 

[D.O.A.]

I applaud this thread. It's hard to address this issue without appearing to be misogynistic.
I would also like to point out there is a direct link between aggressive feminist activism and the decline in chivalry.

Very true, I wouldn't bother with chivalry and if you really want equal rights carry those fucking 50kg boxes yourself or go back to washing dishes, fluttering ur eyelids at me won't make ur job any easier then mine.

 

[Torque Button]

32. I can be confident that the ordinary language of day-to-day existence will always include my sex. “All men are created equal,” mailman, chairman, freshman, he.

nurse

 

[aRyan]

Feminists are traitors to their races in my opinion. I don't have any respect or love for them. Just as I don't have any respect or love to men who think that women shouldn't have pretty much the same rights men do.

I treat women with respect, well the ones that deserve it at least. And I expect the same.

I strongly believe though that if a man and women have a child together, and they can get by on one income, that the man should work, two jobs if he has to, and the female should be at home raising the child. Children that were raised and nurtured by a loving mother turn out to have much more love and respect when they get older. Of course there are exceptions to that, but for the most part I believe that it is true.

Food for thought - Most well known feminists (not sure about now - I'm talking a few decades ago) were rotten Jews. And most promotion of feminism came from.. you guessed it - Jewish owned media.

And here this is, just for fun. But lol I do love this song.

 

[revolva]

There are still many countries around the world where the scourge of militant feminism is yet to even take root let alone have enough effect to cause men to feel threatened. And if one is to seriously look at the balance of power, or should I say imbalance of power in the world, it would be obvious that the "balance" is seriously skewed in favor of men, both political and corporate power.

Environmental disasters, pollution, over-taxation of natural resources and wars are male created problems in the first place, so to piss and moan about the expectation that men should be considered primary candidates to be pushed into the midst of all the shit they created in the first place is a tad irrational to put it mildly.

Many cultures still consider female babies to be valueless to the point of aborting them or killing them at birth, and those lucky/unlucky enough to survive that filtration process still have to contend with a life of servitude before being forced into marriage by their fathers, and again face the possibility of being killed if the dowry isn't enough for the grooms grasping family. Sure, it's moot whether these cultures can even be considered civilized in the first place, but they are nevertheless part of the human race like it or not, their actions factor into the equation. Honor killing victims are exclusively female and their crimes range from being raped by close relatives, or being seen in close proximity to males in public...these capital offenses can bring a death sentence or an acid facial...and sure, again this is Islam, but Muslims have human DNA too.

Human trafficking is another global problem that is increasing year after year. Women are kidnapped traded and shipped around the world like fucking cattle, raped and beaten til they are broken spirits; forced on a daily basis to submit to sexual abuse for the gratification and financial gain of men and often killed and disposed of like trash once their shelf life expires, so for countless women on this planet, having a vagina means a slow protracted death sentence and yet men will still go to great lengths to cherry pick and howl about any example of favoritism or bias toward them that illustrates their deluded paranoia that women are taking over!!

In the face of a long history of male domination and control, it may well be necessary for some extreme measures favoring women, just to get the "balance" to swing back a tiny bit in their favor....Aim for the stars if we want to hit knuclefuck U.S.A!!