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Vaccines can't protect you from being poisoned!
You don't need to actually watch this, just listen, I know it's too long for many of you. Interview 1955 – Genomic Surveillance in the Thrill Kill Medical Cult with Zowe Smith | The Corbett Report
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Why do you not believe in vaccines?
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What about the history of vaccine success around the world? Take polio for example.school of medicine rockefeller - Search Videos
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It's not at all what you think. I Give me 24 hours, I just sat down for dinner, I need to clean up after and clean out the fridge, then I will find the info to respond. Not to mention, those so called vaccines, weren't gene altering MRNA. BTW, up until the late 60's (I believe 60's is correct) they were adding SV40 to the polio vaccines, they got it from monkeys, it served no other purpose than to cause cancer around midlife when your hormones fall off. It's admitted by the guy who was in charge of it, they aren't even denying it.
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SV40 was found in early polio vaccines because they were derived from monkey kidney cells. (1950s - 1963). It wasn't put in deliberately. Modern vaccines do not have SV40 cuz they don't use monkey cells. But my question was, if you don't believe in vaccines, how do you explain their massive success in healthcare?
I resisted the covid vaccine, because Biden wasnt a king. Once he decided he was gonna force me I had to resist.
back in the way back when,holistic/apothecary was the way to go. then rockafeller and company discovered that oil could be used in medicines. there giving the alternative medicine (thats been working for eons prior) a run for its money. thats when rockafeller and carnegie hired people to try and discredit the natural meds industry by saying its no good. all the while big pharma worked a bit quicker but was causing bodily harm. thus the both industries" were neck and neck. the fda wouldnt recognize natural as the way to go and not promote it and approve anything natural. this is where big pharma juat ran away with the industry. they were able to better grease the pockets of the politicians. thus pushing big pharma on everyone.
i dont recall ANY commercial that promoted natural medicine. the tele is dominated by big pharma. and its sickening!
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LOL, thank you, that's an easy one, you're delusional! Massive success, LMAO, I bet you get all your facts from mainstream sources, and believe your Gov actually cares about you?
All the while, to my understanding, Rockefeller had two nature paths to look after his health, fucking hypocrite~ Totally agree about the commercials, and the list of possible side effects, geez, they're worse than the original issue. TBH, I only watch one channel, ID channel, I have become so disgusted with the amount of commercials, I can't believe my husband insists he needs the TV to fall asleep. I remember when cable was $9.95 a month and it was commercial free. Now it's $100 a month and 50/50 show/commercials, and they're so repetitive, for the most part, I zone out for the commercials, my husband will comment on one and I'm like huh?
FYI, I am also a Chicken Pox, Measles and Rubella survivor, and I will literally end my time on this planet before I take any jab in the future, I haven't had a vax since I was in school. I know how to destroy any infection without the assistance of a doctor, faster than any of the shit they have to offer.
Oh yeah, GMO's pesticides, depleted soils, they don't help either, but it's funny how the same people responsible for this bullshit they are doing to our food supply, also are major shareholders in big pharma, raking in the bucks for the cures that do nothing of the sort.
What I'm against is LIES, and studies that show the results they're paid to have (which is almost any study done in the US). Now you're beginning to annoy me, Miss snooty, know it all, lucky for you, you have all the smarts, LMAO!
What I'm against is LIES, and studies that show the results they're paid to have (which is almost any study done in the US). Now you're beginning to annoy me, Miss snooty, know it all, lucky for you, you have all the smarts, LMAO!
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Ad hominem.
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Anyway, I won't argue. This is a futile debate—our positions of argument are categorically different. Have a great day!
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Ok normally I love you right wing nutters… but denying the efficacy of vaccines is effing retarded and makes us all look dumb af
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Your chances of survival are near zero if you, say, contract tetanus from a wound. Your only way out would be to get TIG (tetanus immunoglobulins) + tetanus vaccine.
This is pure, brutal fact. No human can just shrug off tetanus like the common cold. We have medical science for a reason.
If you still think otherwise, go inflict a wound and rub some dirty soil into it and sit around to see if your powerful immune system can save you. This is really the ultimate test to see if what you've believed so far is right.
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This should clear everything up:
Countering Anti-Vaxxer Arguments:
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1. Safety Concerns
Claim: Vaccines are unsafe and cause serious adverse reactions or long-term health issues.
Refutation:
Vaccines are among the most rigorously tested medical interventions, designed to protect individuals and communities with minimal risk.
- The Testing Process:Vaccines go through a multi-layered development and approval process:
- Preclinical Testing: Before human trials, vaccines are tested in labs and on animals (e.g., mice, primates) to assess safety and immune response.
- Phase 1 Clinical Trials: Small groups (20-100 volunteers) receive the vaccine to evaluate safety, dosage, and initial immune response. For example, the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine’s Phase 1 trial in 2020 involved 45 participants and showed no severe adverse events (NEJM, 2020).
- Phase 2 Clinical Trials: Hundreds of participants are tested to refine dosage and further confirm safety. Side effects are meticulously tracked.
- Phase 3 Clinical Trials: Thousands participate in randomized, controlled trials to measure efficacy and rare side effects. The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine trial included 43,548 participants, with half receiving a placebo, ensuring robust data (NEJM, 2020).
- Phase 4 (Post-Marketing Surveillance): After approval, agencies like the CDC and FDA monitor vaccines via systems like VAERS, which logs every reported adverse event. This ongoing scrutiny caught a rare blood clotting issue with the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine (1 in 1 million doses), leading to a temporary pause in 2021 (CDC, 2021).
- Safety Statistics:Serious side effects are extraordinarily rare:
- The MMR vaccine has a 1-in-1-million risk of anaphylaxis, a severe allergic reaction treatable with epinephrine (CDC, 2021).
- Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS), linked to some flu vaccines, occurs in 1-2 cases per million doses—far less than the 17 cases per million from flu infections (CDC, 2020).
- Compare this to aspirin, a common drug with a higher risk of severe bleeding (1 in 1,000 users annually), yet it’s widely accepted (BMJ, 2019).
- Risk vs. Disease:The diseases vaccines prevent are exponentially more dangerous:
- Measles causes pneumonia in 1 in 20 cases, encephalitis in 1 in 1,000, and death in 1-2 per 1,000 (WHO, 2019). A 2014 U.S. outbreak saw 383 cases, mostly among unvaccinated Amish communities (CDC, 2014).
- Pertussis (whooping cough) hospitalized 48% of infants under 6 months in a 2019 outbreak, with a 1% mortality rate in that age group (CDC, 2021).
- Mild vaccine side effects (e.g., fever, soreness) pale in comparison to these outcomes.
- Herd Immunity: Vaccines protect vulnerable populations—infants, the elderly, and immunocompromised individuals—who rely on community immunity. In 2019, a measles outbreak in Samoa killed 83 people, mostly children, due to low vaccination rates (WHO, 2019). High vaccination coverage could have prevented this tragedy.
- Ethical Lens: Utilitarianism supports vaccination: the small, manageable risk to the individual maximizes societal benefit. Refusing vaccines risks not just personal health but the well-being of others.
Analogy: Vaccines are like airbags in a car. There’s a minuscule chance they might bruise you in a crash, but they’re designed to save your life. Would you disable your airbags because of that tiny risk, knowing a collision could be fatal?
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2. Efficacy Doubts
Claim: Vaccines don’t work or are unnecessary because diseases were already declining.
Refutation:
Vaccines have proven their effectiveness through historical triumphs, scientific data, and real-world outcomes.
- Historical Evidence:Vaccines have decimated once-deadly diseases:
- Smallpox: Killed 300 million people in the 20th century alone; eradicated by 1980 via vaccination (WHO, 2020).
- Polio: Reduced from 350,000 annual cases in 1988 to 33 in 2018, with ongoing efforts in Pakistan and Afghanistan (WHO, 2023).
- Rubella: Congenital rubella syndrome, which causes birth defects, dropped from 20,000 U.S. cases in 1969 to fewer than 10 annually after the vaccine’s introduction (CDC, 2020).
- Sanitation and hygiene improvements helped reduce some diseases, but vaccines delivered the knockout blow. Measles deaths fell 73% globally from 2000-2018 due to vaccination, not plumbing (WHO, 2019).
- Scientific Studies:Vaccines show high efficacy in controlled trials:
- The MMR vaccine is 97% effective against measles and 88% against mumps after two doses (CDC, 2020).
- The HPV vaccine reduced precancerous cervical lesions by 97% in vaccinated women (The Lancet, 2021).
- The shingles vaccine (Zoster) reduces risk by 90% in adults over 50 (NEJM, 2016).
- Real-World Impact:Outbreaks correlate with low vaccination rates:
- A 2017 Minnesota measles outbreak infected 79 people, 70 of whom were unvaccinated (CDC, 2017).
- Israel’s 2023 diphtheria case—the first in decades—occurred in an unvaccinated child, highlighting vaccine necessity (WHO, 2023).
- Effectiveness vs. Efficacy: Efficacy (trial results) differs from effectiveness (real-world performance). The flu vaccine’s effectiveness ranges from 40-60% yearly due to strain variability, yet it reduces ICU admissions by 82% in children (CDC, 2021). Vaccines don’t need to be 100% to save lives—they reduce severity and spread.
- Countering the ‘Unnecessary’ Claim: Diseases resurge when vaccination rates drop. Japan’s pertussis vaccine hesitancy in the 1970s saw cases rise from 206 to 13,000 in five years (The Lancet, 1981).
Analogy: Vaccines are like a fire extinguisher. It might not stop every spark, but it prevents a blaze. Claiming extinguishers are useless because fires are rare ignores how they keep small risks from becoming disasters.
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3. Natural Immunity
Claim: Natural immunity from infection is better than vaccine-induced immunity.
Refutation:
Natural immunity comes at a steep cost, while vaccines offer a safer, controlled alternative.
- Dangers of Natural Infection:Surviving a disease to gain immunity risks severe outcomes:
- Measles can cause subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE), a fatal brain disease years later, in 1 in 10,000 cases (CDC, 2020).
- Mumps can lead to infertility in men (orchitis in 20-40% of post-pubertal cases) and deafness (1 in 20,000) (CDC, 2021).
- COVID-19 survivors face “long COVID,” with 10-30% reporting persistent symptoms like fatigue or brain fog (Nature, 2022).
- Vaccine-Induced Immunity:Vaccines train the immune system without disease risks:
- The varicella (chickenpox) vaccine prevents shingles, unlike natural infection, which leaves the virus dormant (CDC, 2021).
- The tetanus vaccine provides immunity without the 10-20% mortality rate of the disease (WHO, 2020).
- Vaccines often use inactivated viruses or proteins (e.g., mRNA in COVID-19 vaccines), triggering a precise immune response without infection.
- Hybrid Immunity: Studies show prior infection plus vaccination offers strong protection (e.g., 90% reduced reinfection risk for COVID-19; Science, 2022). However, surviving the initial infection is a gamble—why roll the dice when vaccines suffice?
- Immune Response Quality: Vaccines can outperform natural immunity. The HPV vaccine generates higher antibody levels than natural infection, offering superior long-term protection (JAMA, 2018).
- Ethical Consideration: The precautionary principle favors avoiding unnecessary harm. Vaccines provide immunity without suffering—a rational choice.
Analogy: Natural immunity is like learning to fight by getting beaten up—you might toughen up, but you could also get seriously hurt. Vaccines are like a sparring session with a coach: you build skills safely, without the bruises.
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4. Conspiracy Theories
Claim: Vaccines are a tool for government control or Big Pharma profit.
Refutation:
Conspiracy theories thrive on distrust but lack evidence and logical coherence.
- Global Collaboration:Vaccine development involves thousands of scientists, universities, and regulators worldwide:
- The polio vaccine was pioneered by Jonas Salk, who refused to patent it for public benefit (Smithsonian, 2015).
- COVID-19 vaccines were developed via Operation Warp Speed (U.S.), CEPI (global), and independent firms like BioNTech—hardly a single “controlling” entity.
- Profit Motive Debunked:Vaccines are less profitable than treatments:
- Pfizer’s Lipitor (a cholesterol drug) earned $13 billion annually at its peak, while its COVID-19 vaccine earned $37 billion over two years—a one-off due to a pandemic (Statista, 2023).
- Preventing diseases reduces hospital visits and drug sales, undercutting Big Pharma’s long-term profits.
- Transparency:Vaccine trials are public and scrutinized:
- ClinicalTrials.gov logs every trial; Moderna’s COVID-19 data was peer-reviewed by 30+ experts (NEJM, 2020).
- Independent bodies like the Cochrane Collaboration review vaccine safety and efficacy, free from industry bias.
- Logical Breakdown:Conspiracy claims falter under scrutiny:
- Government Control: Why vaccinate to “control” people when taxes and laws already suffice?
- Occam’s Razor: The simplest explanation—vaccines prevent disease—is far more plausible than a multi-nation plot.
- Historical Precedent: Anti-vaccine conspiracies echo past skepticism (e.g., 19th-century smallpox vaccine fears), yet vaccines consistently prove their worth.
Analogy: Believing vaccines are a conspiracy is like thinking bridges are built to trap people. Engineers (and scientists) design for function, not secret agendas—the evidence is in the crossings (and lives) saved.
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