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i actually saw a mongol like last year or the year before. it was strange. theyve been done for a while.
Don't know if they're done just yet. I haven't seen them much where i live but still hanging around, i suspect. I haven't been around the bars in years so i don't know but i use to see them a lot in the bars around town. Same with some Hells Angels and Vagos. Hell i walked into a bar one night and all i saw was a sea of green which is Vagos. I didn't start no shit and i was fine the whole night. I don't ride or am I in anyway affiliated with any club. But i have been around the biker culture my whole life, so being around guys like that doesn't bother me. But for other's, yes you should watch your step around guys like that. They mean business and this latest incident proves that.
ive been around it too. here and in texas. this war isnt going to help any clubs nationwide. now everyone is looking at them. still, nothing changes, there will be retaliation. just not this public, that was a wanabe move.
Yeah it's not over by a long shot. More blood will be spilled.
Most know that I'm a former biker and although I don' know all of the various rivalries going on in the states, I can speak for the ones that have hit Canada over the past 30 or so years.
One of our most notorious rivalries, or biker-vs-biker deaths, involved a chapter from a large MC liguidating a sister chapter of the same club in 1985. This sister chapter, called the North Chapter, was located in Laval, Quebec and was deemed as too wild and uncontrollable by the MC's Corp and other chapters. Other chapters from the states were terrified of these guys.
Most of the members of the North Chapter had earned various patches that symbolized various deeds: mainly, murder. They were French speaking, unruly and the Corp was losing control of them. The Corp felt that it was time to get rid of them.
The North Chapter was called to a "sit down" with a sister chapter, the dominantly English speaking Sherbrooke Chapter. As with all church meetings - guns and weapons were checked at the door: often only the Sgt-At-Arms is permitted to remain armed.
Unknown to the North Chapter members, the Sherbrooke members presiding over the sit-down, did not check their weapons in.
In the end 5 members of the North Chapter were shot dead and later dumped into the St. Lawrence River. The surviving North Chapter members were then absorbed into the Montreal-based, Sherbrooke chapter.
When the bodies of the 5 dead bikers, rotting in sleeping bags and tied down with concrete blocks, surfaced, the police moved in and later charged several of the Sherbrooke members with murder.
This club on club killing shook up many chapters (and rival clubs) and is known as the Lennoxville Massacre.
One of our most notorious rivalries, or biker-vs-biker deaths, involved a chapter from a large MC liguidating a sister chapter of the same club in 1985. This sister chapter, called the North Chapter, was located in Laval, Quebec and was deemed as too wild and uncontrollable by the MC's Corp and other chapters. Other chapters from the states were terrified of these guys.
Most of the members of the North Chapter had earned various patches that symbolized various deeds: mainly, murder. They were French speaking, unruly and the Corp was losing control of them. The Corp felt that it was time to get rid of them.
The North Chapter was called to a "sit down" with a sister chapter, the dominantly English speaking Sherbrooke Chapter. As with all church meetings - guns and weapons were checked at the door: often only the Sgt-At-Arms is permitted to remain armed.
Unknown to the North Chapter members, the Sherbrooke members presiding over the sit-down, did not check their weapons in.
In the end 5 members of the North Chapter were shot dead and later dumped into the St. Lawrence River. The surviving North Chapter members were then absorbed into the Montreal-based, Sherbrooke chapter.
When the bodies of the 5 dead bikers, rotting in sleeping bags and tied down with concrete blocks, surfaced, the police moved in and later charged several of the Sherbrooke members with murder.
This club on club killing shook up many chapters (and rival clubs) and is known as the Lennoxville Massacre.
The only biker war i know from Canada is the Hells Angels vs Rock Machine feud that happened in the 90's. Gotta look this one up DH, good stuff.
The above incident was about 5 yrs before my time. When I became active in 1990 shit would hit the fan again; but not club on club.
A prolonged 'war' broke out between the same MC as above and another club that were largely backed by other, non-biker, organizations.
A turf war erupted with Montreal being the prize. By 1992 almost 150 bikers and associates had been murdered on both sides.
Club houses were fire bombed, lone bikers were shot off their Harleys, rivals out grocery shopping were gunned down in parking lots, vehicles were rigged and exploded when the driver turned the ignition or blown to pieces by remote control along the 401.
At first the Quebec police were slow to react: the old "let them kill each other" mentality. That was until a high ranking MC member got into his Jeep and upon turning the ignition was blown to pieces. Back then, MC's kept their battles away from residential areas. But the planted Jeep bomb was in a residential area and when the Jeep exploded shrapnel flew everywhere along the quiet street.
An 11 year old boy, playing nearby, was killed when a shred of shrapnel hit him in the head and blew out the other side - killing him instantly.
The public, well aware of the ongoing war and killings, began to protest and the police were forced to act and eventually shut down the hostilities between the two rival groups.
I was able to leave shortly afterwards as most top members were dead or in prison.
What stopped that war was the large number of dead and the large number of those charged and imprisoned.
How shit plays out in Waco is a crap shoot that will play out according to the 2 main rival MC's.
A prolonged 'war' broke out between the same MC as above and another club that were largely backed by other, non-biker, organizations.
A turf war erupted with Montreal being the prize. By 1992 almost 150 bikers and associates had been murdered on both sides.
Club houses were fire bombed, lone bikers were shot off their Harleys, rivals out grocery shopping were gunned down in parking lots, vehicles were rigged and exploded when the driver turned the ignition or blown to pieces by remote control along the 401.
At first the Quebec police were slow to react: the old "let them kill each other" mentality. That was until a high ranking MC member got into his Jeep and upon turning the ignition was blown to pieces. Back then, MC's kept their battles away from residential areas. But the planted Jeep bomb was in a residential area and when the Jeep exploded shrapnel flew everywhere along the quiet street.
An 11 year old boy, playing nearby, was killed when a shred of shrapnel hit him in the head and blew out the other side - killing him instantly.
The public, well aware of the ongoing war and killings, began to protest and the police were forced to act and eventually shut down the hostilities between the two rival groups.
I was able to leave shortly afterwards as most top members were dead or in prison.
What stopped that war was the large number of dead and the large number of those charged and imprisoned.
How shit plays out in Waco is a crap shoot that will play out according to the 2 main rival MC's.
In Canada, there have been many 'smaller' turf battles in places such as Kitchener, St. Catherines, Toronto, and Hamilton but these don't often reach the media, even when deaths occurred.
Western Canada has it's battles but most have been concentrated in the luctritive areas such as central Ontario and Quebec.
Like many have said, as long as there are biker clubs (MC's) the fighting will never end. Same to be said for any organizations that runs and protects their "own" territories.
But this even extends to what we are seeing today, although not involving bikers, with Christians and Muslims, neo-Nazis and Jews, Protestants and Catholics, blacks and white, etc.
Western Canada has it's battles but most have been concentrated in the luctritive areas such as central Ontario and Quebec.
Like many have said, as long as there are biker clubs (MC's) the fighting will never end. Same to be said for any organizations that runs and protects their "own" territories.
But this even extends to what we are seeing today, although not involving bikers, with Christians and Muslims, neo-Nazis and Jews, Protestants and Catholics, blacks and white, etc.
In Germany the government is trying to forbid one chapter from the 1% clubs after the other. For certain juristic reasons it is almost impossible to forbid a club as a whole.
Many chapters aren't allowed to wear original colors in public anymore, club-houses paintings must not show club-patches and all such bullshit.
Until the early 90's I've been in contact with several clubs here and was member in a 'gang', but after a bust they draw my driving-license due 'criminal activities'. Game over...
Now I hang around in a Mexican Pub at times some old buddies are running. But seldomly.
Many chapters aren't allowed to wear original colors in public anymore, club-houses paintings must not show club-patches and all such bullshit.
Until the early 90's I've been in contact with several clubs here and was member in a 'gang', but after a bust they draw my driving-license due 'criminal activities'. Game over...
Now I hang around in a Mexican Pub at times some old buddies are running. But seldomly.
UPDATE:
WACO (May 19, 2015) Preliminary autopsy reports released Tuesday identify the nine bikers who died Sunday afternoon in a shootout with rival gang members and police at Waco’s Twin Peaks restaurant, and at least two of them have local ties.
The nine bikers, all of whom were members of either the Bandidos or the Cossacks, all died of gunshot wounds.
Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, 65, died of gunshot wounds of the head and trunk.
Jacob Lee Rhyne, 39, died of gunshot wounds to the neck.

Richard Vincent Kirshner, Jr., 47, died of gunshot wounds but the report did not specify where he was shot.
Richard Matthew Jordan, III, 31, died of gunshot wounds to the head.
Wayne Lee Campbell, 43, died of gunshot wounds to the head and trunk.
Daniel Raymond Boyett, 44, died of gunshot wounds to the head.
Matthew Mark Smith, 27, died of gunshot wounds to the trunk
Manuel Issac Rodriguez, 40, died of gunshot wounds but the report did not specify where he was shot.
And Charles Wayne Russell, 46, died of gunshot wounds to the chest.
Jordan and Boyett both lived in Waco at least at one time, according to online Texas driver’s license records.
Boyett’s most recent renewal listed an address in the Chalk Bluff area just outside of Waco.
Jordan’s most recent license renewal, however, showed a Pasadena address.
Online records show addresses in New Braunfels for Jesus Rodriguez, Ranger for Jacob Rhyne, Arlington for Wayne Campbell, Keller for Matthew Smith, Allen for Manuel Rodriguez and Tyler for Charles Russell.
No records were found for Richard Kirshner.
Eight of the dead bikers were members of the Cossacks and one was a Bandido, authorities confirmed.
About 50 weapons were recovered at the shooting scene including guns, knives and a chain with a padlock that could be used to beat someone, police said Monday.
Other weapons have been discovered in some off the vehicles towed from the shooting scene, police said.
Investigators, meanwhile, continued to process evidence for a third day Tuesday at the Waco Twin Peaks restaurant where a gun battle between rival biker gangs and police left nine dead and 18 injured.
Stores on the west side of the Central Texas Marketplace from Men’s Warehouse to Kohl’s were open again Tuesday, but those on the south side, from Cabella’s to Best Buy were still closed Tuesday.
Access to the south side of the complex was still restricted.
The shooting investigation will take weeks if not months, Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said during a news conference Tuesday morning.
He later said investigators hope to clear the crime scene by mid-morning Wednesday.
Crews continued to remove an estimated 135 motorcycles and at least 80 cars and pickup trucks from the restaurant’s parking lot Tuesday, a process that started Monday evening.
Police are escorting the flatbed trucks carrying the cycles and vehicles from the scene to an impound site, Swanton said.
Seven of the 18 bikers injured in the shootout remained in hospitals Tuesday, Swanton said.
All of them are in stable condition and most are improving he said.
He declined to release the names of the nine bikers who were killed, however, because investigators are having trouble locating family members to notify, he said.
Swanton discounted media reports that four of the nine bikers were killed by police, saying that will be impossible to determine until autopsies and ballistic tests have been completed.
“Is it possible? Yes. Is it a fact? No,” he said.
Most of the dead, the injured and the about 170 suspects arrested after the shooting are not from the Waco area, he said.
By mid-morning Tuesday, more than 160 suspects had been booked into the McLennan County Jail, according to online records.
The incident that triggered the violence evidently occurred in the parking lot Sunday as a coalition of several biker groups gathered to meet in the patio bar area of the restaurant, Swanton said.
Members of a biker group that wasn’t part of the coalition showed up and it appears that “someone had their foot run over” in the parking lot he said.
Investigators have identified crime scenes inside and outside of Twin Peaks including bathroom areas, the restaurant area and the patio bar area, he said.
They’ve found evidence of “some type of altercation inside,” he said, including blood.
“We will figure it out,” he said.
“We do know that we have crime scenes inside and outside and we know that assaults occurred inside and outside the establishment,” he said.
He confirmed that there have been “credible threats to law enforcement in and around our area,” but said those have toned down over the past 24 hours.
“We’re thankful for that,” he said.
“We are asking (the biker groups) to stand down, we are asking them to let us sort through our investigation and we will be honest with them as we have with you and will continue to be,” Swanton told reporters.
Patrol officers have arrested a few bikers in the area, he said, and report that they are seeing fewer bikers Tuesday.
The violent feud likely hasn’t ended, though, he said.
Is this over? Most likely not,” he said.
“We would like it to be. Would like some sort of truce,”
he said.
The 18 Waco officers and four Texas Department of Public Safety Officers involved in the incident remain on duty as Waco police, Texas Rangers and the DPS Criminal Investigation Division investigate, he said.
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/...Peaks-In-Waco-304043711.html?device=phone&c=y
WACO (May 19, 2015) Preliminary autopsy reports released Tuesday identify the nine bikers who died Sunday afternoon in a shootout with rival gang members and police at Waco’s Twin Peaks restaurant, and at least two of them have local ties.
The nine bikers, all of whom were members of either the Bandidos or the Cossacks, all died of gunshot wounds.
Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, 65, died of gunshot wounds of the head and trunk.
Jacob Lee Rhyne, 39, died of gunshot wounds to the neck.

Richard Vincent Kirshner, Jr., 47, died of gunshot wounds but the report did not specify where he was shot.
Richard Matthew Jordan, III, 31, died of gunshot wounds to the head.
Wayne Lee Campbell, 43, died of gunshot wounds to the head and trunk.
Daniel Raymond Boyett, 44, died of gunshot wounds to the head.
Matthew Mark Smith, 27, died of gunshot wounds to the trunk
Manuel Issac Rodriguez, 40, died of gunshot wounds but the report did not specify where he was shot.
And Charles Wayne Russell, 46, died of gunshot wounds to the chest.
Jordan and Boyett both lived in Waco at least at one time, according to online Texas driver’s license records.
Boyett’s most recent renewal listed an address in the Chalk Bluff area just outside of Waco.
Jordan’s most recent license renewal, however, showed a Pasadena address.
Online records show addresses in New Braunfels for Jesus Rodriguez, Ranger for Jacob Rhyne, Arlington for Wayne Campbell, Keller for Matthew Smith, Allen for Manuel Rodriguez and Tyler for Charles Russell.
No records were found for Richard Kirshner.
Eight of the dead bikers were members of the Cossacks and one was a Bandido, authorities confirmed.
About 50 weapons were recovered at the shooting scene including guns, knives and a chain with a padlock that could be used to beat someone, police said Monday.
Other weapons have been discovered in some off the vehicles towed from the shooting scene, police said.
Investigators, meanwhile, continued to process evidence for a third day Tuesday at the Waco Twin Peaks restaurant where a gun battle between rival biker gangs and police left nine dead and 18 injured.
Stores on the west side of the Central Texas Marketplace from Men’s Warehouse to Kohl’s were open again Tuesday, but those on the south side, from Cabella’s to Best Buy were still closed Tuesday.
Access to the south side of the complex was still restricted.
The shooting investigation will take weeks if not months, Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said during a news conference Tuesday morning.
He later said investigators hope to clear the crime scene by mid-morning Wednesday.
Crews continued to remove an estimated 135 motorcycles and at least 80 cars and pickup trucks from the restaurant’s parking lot Tuesday, a process that started Monday evening.
Police are escorting the flatbed trucks carrying the cycles and vehicles from the scene to an impound site, Swanton said.
Seven of the 18 bikers injured in the shootout remained in hospitals Tuesday, Swanton said.
All of them are in stable condition and most are improving he said.
He declined to release the names of the nine bikers who were killed, however, because investigators are having trouble locating family members to notify, he said.
Swanton discounted media reports that four of the nine bikers were killed by police, saying that will be impossible to determine until autopsies and ballistic tests have been completed.
“Is it possible? Yes. Is it a fact? No,” he said.
Most of the dead, the injured and the about 170 suspects arrested after the shooting are not from the Waco area, he said.
By mid-morning Tuesday, more than 160 suspects had been booked into the McLennan County Jail, according to online records.
The incident that triggered the violence evidently occurred in the parking lot Sunday as a coalition of several biker groups gathered to meet in the patio bar area of the restaurant, Swanton said.
Members of a biker group that wasn’t part of the coalition showed up and it appears that “someone had their foot run over” in the parking lot he said.
Investigators have identified crime scenes inside and outside of Twin Peaks including bathroom areas, the restaurant area and the patio bar area, he said.
They’ve found evidence of “some type of altercation inside,” he said, including blood.
“We will figure it out,” he said.
“We do know that we have crime scenes inside and outside and we know that assaults occurred inside and outside the establishment,” he said.
He confirmed that there have been “credible threats to law enforcement in and around our area,” but said those have toned down over the past 24 hours.
“We’re thankful for that,” he said.
“We are asking (the biker groups) to stand down, we are asking them to let us sort through our investigation and we will be honest with them as we have with you and will continue to be,” Swanton told reporters.
Patrol officers have arrested a few bikers in the area, he said, and report that they are seeing fewer bikers Tuesday.
The violent feud likely hasn’t ended, though, he said.
Is this over? Most likely not,” he said.
“We would like it to be. Would like some sort of truce,”
he said.
The 18 Waco officers and four Texas Department of Public Safety Officers involved in the incident remain on duty as Waco police, Texas Rangers and the DPS Criminal Investigation Division investigate, he said.
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/...Peaks-In-Waco-304043711.html?device=phone&c=y
1) I thought Jesus would be immune to bullets
2) his last name is Rodriguez?
Looking at this mugshot gallery, you'll see several hispanics.
http://www.wfaa.com/picture-gallery...8/mugshots-waco-biker-gang-shooting/27543607/
Yes, I was wondering myself as well. Very strange physiognomies tbh.
