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DeathHand

Let It All Bleed Out
Biker brawl: Are more gang members headed to north Texas?

North Texas is looking a lot like ground zero in a battle royal for rival biker gangs.

A weekend shootout that left at least nine people dead and 18 hospitalized might be just the beginning.

It could get much uglier.

The gathering storm

How ugly?

A memo to law enforcement warns officers warns that members of the Bandidos and Cossacks motorcycle gangs have reportedly been told to arm themselves and travel to north Texas.

With emotions still raw between the rival biker groups, authorities are concerned.

"We would encourage biker groups to stand down," Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton told CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" on Monday night. "There's been enough bloodshed. There's been enough death here."

And Swanton warned other biker gang members against coming to Waco to reignite the violence.

"We would encourage them not to, because we have plenty of space in our county jail to put them there,' he told CNN affiliate KTVT.

The turf war

Sunday's brutal beat down at a Twin Peaks restaurant had been brewing for a while.

The gangs knew it. The police knew.

It all boils down to territory, according to an informant, who goes by the name "Charles Falco."

"The Bandidos are the biggest motorcycle gang in Texas, and they don't allow other motorcycle gangs to enter that state," Falco told CNN's Sara Sidner. "They will allow other motorcycles clubs to exist, but they're not allowed to wear that state bottom rocker. If they do, they face the onslaught of the Bandidos."

Not familiar with the bottom rocker? It's the state name on the back of a biker's vest. It kind of looks like the curved bottom of a rocking chair, hence the name.

The rocker can indicate where someone is from, but it's also a territorial claim for that club. That's why the Bandidos and Cossacks aren't getting along, according to Falco.

The shootout

At least five biker gangs were involved in the violence, a law enforcement source said. In addition to the Cossacks and Bandidos, photos from scene also showed the insignias of the Scimitars and Vaqueros.

Still, it wasn't clear who was involved in the fighting. Authorities wouldn't release the names of the gangs involved.

The United Clubs of Waco billed Sunday's event as the Texas Region 1 Confederation of Clubs and Independents meeting.

A heavy law enforcement presence was there -- both inside and outside -- fearing conditions were ripe for a clash between the rival gangs.

An altercation in the bathroom seems to have sparked the violence. Shots were fired inside the eatery and a brawl spilled onto the patio area, before scores of men flooded the parking lot in broad daylight. Some bikers were beaten with brass knuckles, clubs and chains, while others were stabbed or shot, Swanton said.

When police responded -- within 30 to 45 seconds because of their proximity -- the bikers turned their weapons on law enforcement, he said.

"Our officers took fire and responded appropriately, returning fire," the sergeant said.

Of the nine deaths, a law enforcement source says preliminary information indicates that four of the bikers were killed by police gunfire. The investigation continues and the ballistics will be analyzed to determine for certain who was responsible for each shooting.

At least 170 people were arrested and charged. More than 100 weapons were confiscated as well, Swanton said.

Even after the chaos subsided, Waco police continued arresting people arriving at the scene with weapons.

Swanton called it "the most violent and gruesome scene that I have dealt with" in three and a half decades of law enforcement.

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Maven

Southern Charm
I didn't realize these biker gangs had wars like that...crazy. Don't know that much about them...don't have them down here. Or at least I don't think so!
 

McM

ARSELING
Some mugshots in a German newspaper.

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DIVISION77

First, Last & Always
I didn't realize these biker gangs had wars like that...crazy. Don't know that much about them...don't have them down here. Or at least I don't think so!

Texas is much different than any other state in the country. Waco is a few hours from me and biker gangs are a "thing" down here.

I've only been to Waco a few times and it's a real treat.
 

DIVISION77

First, Last & Always
I hear it's like a completely different country compared to the other lower 48 states

I'm from California originally, have lived in many states due to the military including Texas (twice).

Austin is nice, but most of the small towns are real shitholes.

In Texas, it's literally fend for yourself. There's so much land and the cops can't be everywhere at once.

There's a reason everyone here carries a gun......
 

Wayne Kerr

a fuck off is always acceptable*
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i was going to explain what really went down. this isnt about a parking space. this article sums it up perfectly. reminds me of when the mongols tried sport a california bottom rocker. where are they now?

damon lavrinc
With nine dead, 18 injured, and 170 bikers arrested after this weekend’s shootout outside a Waco, Texas restaurant, the obvious question is: Why? The answer, it seems, is a single patch on the vests of a rival motorcycle club.

Texas has been dominated by one group of bikers: the Bandidos. They own the state and show it with a patch at the bottom of their vest.

Assuming you’ve endured a few episodes of Sons of Anarchy, you know that vests are called “cuts” and that the identifying elements – the patches – are the “colors.” On the middle of the vest is their symbol, above that is a patch with the name of the club, and below is the “bottom rocker” which identifies the region each member is from.

The Bandidos staked a claim to Texas in 1966, and that means no other club can use the state’s name on their bottom rocker. Sure, they’ll allow smaller clubs in the state after asking permission, but the Texas bottom rocker is off-limits.

And that’s where the problems began.

The Cossacks are the Bandidos’ rival MC in the state, forming in 1969 as a smaller club that always stayed out of the Bandidos’ way. But over the past several years their numbers – and gang-like antics – have increased.

That boost in membership and illegal activity emboldened them to take on the Bandidos and that started with adding the Texas bottom rocker to their cuts.

Charles Falco, a former drug dealer that joined the DEA as an undercover agent, infiltrated three motorcycle gangs, and then wrote a book about it broke the Waco situation down in an interview for Slate:

The Bandidos have always OK’d the Cossacks right to exist as long as they didn’t wear the Texas bottom rocker. The Cossacks have been growing in numbers and recruiting more of that hardcore biker personality in their club. So they were starting to go that way – it’s like a slow transition. And when you get your numbers up, then we can go ahead and challenge the Bandidos to their area by throwing on that Texas bottom rocker. And the Cossacks have grown in number incredibly, and the power they think they have, and the soldiers they think they have and said, “It’s time to step up.”

A police bulletin from May 1 titled “Tension between Bandidos OMG and Cossacks MC remains high in Texas” and obtained by WFAA 8, an ABC affiliate in Dallas, backs up Falco’s claims.

“Violence between members of the Bandidos OMG and the Cossacks MC has increased in Texas with no indication of diminishing,” the bulletin states. “The conflict may stem from Cossacks members refusing to pay Bandidos dues for operating in Texas and for claiming Texas as their territory by wearing the Texas bottom rocker on their vests, or ‘colors’ or ‘cuts.’”

The report goes on to detail several incidents of violence between the two clubs, including 10 Cossacks that forced a Bandido to pull over outside Lorena, Texas where he was attacked with “chains, batons, and metal pipes before stealing his motorcycle.” An FBI report detail plans for 100 Bandidos to travel to Odessa in April to start a “war” with the Cossacks, and that was followed with another FBI report about three fights between the two clubs in parts of east Texas.

And things won’t get any better between the two clubs after Sunday’s incident.

“It’s definitely on, now,” Falco told CNN. “As long as they exist, they will be at war.”
 

McM

ARSELING
i was going to explain what really went down. this isnt about a parking space. this article sums it up perfectly. reminds me of when the mongols tried sport a california bottom rocker. where are they now?

damon lavrinc
With nine dead, 18 injured, and 170 bikers arrested after this weekend’s shootout outside a Waco, Texas restaurant, the obvious question is: Why? The answer, it seems, is a single patch on the vests of a rival motorcycle club.

Texas has been dominated by one group of bikers: the Bandidos. They own the state and show it with a patch at the bottom of their vest.

Assuming you’ve endured a few episodes of Sons of Anarchy, you know that vests are called “cuts” and that the identifying elements – the patches – are the “colors.” On the middle of the vest is their symbol, above that is a patch with the name of the club, and below is the “bottom rocker” which identifies the region each member is from.

The Bandidos staked a claim to Texas in 1966, and that means no other club can use the state’s name on their bottom rocker. Sure, they’ll allow smaller clubs in the state after asking permission, but the Texas bottom rocker is off-limits.

And that’s where the problems began.

The Cossacks are the Bandidos’ rival MC in the state, forming in 1969 as a smaller club that always stayed out of the Bandidos’ way. But over the past several years their numbers – and gang-like antics – have increased.

That boost in membership and illegal activity emboldened them to take on the Bandidos and that started with adding the Texas bottom rocker to their cuts.

Charles Falco, a former drug dealer that joined the DEA as an undercover agent, infiltrated three motorcycle gangs, and then wrote a book about it broke the Waco situation down in an interview for Slate:

The Bandidos have always OK’d the Cossacks right to exist as long as they didn’t wear the Texas bottom rocker. The Cossacks have been growing in numbers and recruiting more of that hardcore biker personality in their club. So they were starting to go that way – it’s like a slow transition. And when you get your numbers up, then we can go ahead and challenge the Bandidos to their area by throwing on that Texas bottom rocker. And the Cossacks have grown in number incredibly, and the power they think they have, and the soldiers they think they have and said, “It’s time to step up.”

A police bulletin from May 1 titled “Tension between Bandidos OMG and Cossacks MC remains high in Texas” and obtained by WFAA 8, an ABC affiliate in Dallas, backs up Falco’s claims.

“Violence between members of the Bandidos OMG and the Cossacks MC has increased in Texas with no indication of diminishing,” the bulletin states. “The conflict may stem from Cossacks members refusing to pay Bandidos dues for operating in Texas and for claiming Texas as their territory by wearing the Texas bottom rocker on their vests, or ‘colors’ or ‘cuts.’”

The report goes on to detail several incidents of violence between the two clubs, including 10 Cossacks that forced a Bandido to pull over outside Lorena, Texas where he was attacked with “chains, batons, and metal pipes before stealing his motorcycle.” An FBI report detail plans for 100 Bandidos to travel to Odessa in April to start a “war” with the Cossacks, and that was followed with another FBI report about three fights between the two clubs in parts of east Texas.

And things won’t get any better between the two clubs after Sunday’s incident.

“It’s definitely on, now,” Falco told CNN. “As long as they exist, they will be at war.”


I''ve just read some 'discussions' on another site. Someone ranted: Fucking Mexican bikers...:lulz:
Maybe I'll have a drink in the Fat Mexican at the weekend. Best pub here.
 
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