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Serious Can Europe survive militarily without America?

Personally I think this is all bluff but let's say America leaves Europe completely, could Europe look after themselves? Are Europe allowed to use THAAD without American help? What kind of missiles defence system does Europe have?
Good question. If Europe eventually wants to go to war against Vietnam, Afghanistan or Korea, they will ask USA for help, it will be a complete success.
 
Russia has basically been fighting this war against Europe and the United States from the very beginning. And winning. I highly, highly doubt Europe would stand any chance if the United States pulled out. Remember World War 2? Hmmm...
you say that as if the 'enemies' wernt european themselves... america just fucked around fighting japan the whole time anyways
 
yeah im not saying you guys did NOTHING in europe, but it was 95% european effort... after all 160000 of you died meanwhile 250000 died fighting the pacific war, compared to the almost 20 million european soldiers, and then the 35ish million civilians who died :/
Not sure what we are debating about, but the tide of the war did not change until the United States entered. You make it sound like the allies were winning and we just hopped on board. I think all historians would agree that Germany and the axis powers would have swallowed the world if America didn't intervene...
 
Not sure what we are debating about, but the tide of the war did not change until the United States entered. You make it sound like the allies were winning and we just hopped on board. I think all historians would agree that Germany and the axis powers would have swallowed the world if America didn't intervene...
im not denyin the US war effort.. im just saying you did more of your own stuff raping and nuking japan, worked because now you still have those cutsie islands to vacatin on! but the phrase american steel, soviet blood, and british intelligence i think?? didnt come from nowehere
 
I'm still not sure what you are trying to convey. The Soviet union fed 20 to 30 million men to the meat grinder in WW2. Way, way, way more than any other country combined. If that's the case then it was the blood of Russia that the allies ultimately have to thank. That would go hand in glove with my original statement stating that Europe in its entirety would not have a chance against Russia without American intervention...
 
Not sure what we are debating about, but the tide of the war did not change until the United States entered. You make it sound like the allies were winning and we just hopped on board. I think all historians would agree that Germany and the axis powers would have swallowed the world if America didn't intervene...
In fairness they couldent take britan due to lack of air superiority over the British Isles during the Battle of Britain, making a successful amphibious invasion impossible.

Ive always thought america and britan have been great allies alot of soldiers from both sides have admiration for the other.

Most historians would agree it would have been a drawn out war tho hitlers economy would have collapsed well before the end the americans did provide a turning point in the war but it took for you to be directly attacked to do anything

The United States officially entered World War II about two years and two months after it began in Europe, on December 7, 1941, following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

We had been at war for 2 years before america "came to the rescue " i have no doubt americas intervention won the war i also have no doubt the allies held fast for 2 years and 2 months if they didnt the world like you said would of been swallowed by the axis powers
 
In fairness they couldent take britan due to lack of air superiority over the British Isles during the Battle of Britain, making a successful amphibious invasion impossible.

Ive always thought america and britan have been great allies alot of soldiers from both sides have admiration for the other.

Most historians would agree it would have been a drawn out war tho hitlers economy would have collapsed well before the end the americans did provide a turning point in the war but it took for you to be directly attacked to do anything

The United States officially entered World War II about two years and two months after it began in Europe, on December 7, 1941, following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

We had been at war for 2 years before america "came to the rescue " i have no doubt americas intervention won the war i also have no doubt the allies held fast for 2 years and 2 months if they didnt the world like you said would of been swallowed by the axis powers
Not be mention alan turing breaking the enigma code shortend the war by 2-4 years
 
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Blah blah blah. Tell your bed tine stories to ur grandmother. Nobody wants to listen to your delusions
The only thing you people have contributed to the world is nasty mail order brides and dirty immigrants that collect welfare.
Your shitty country would empty out if others wanted you.
 
Europe would not successfully conscript enough men to fight their wars without drafting, already they have constant riots and their leaders are zionist shills that threw their fellow whites under the bus for their 30 pieces of silver.

Same with the USA, all the younger generations can see clearly that our governments do not have our best interest in mind, they flood our countries with shitskinned savages and give them all of our money so they can get free housing and breed 24/7 while we get sent to die in wars, that will no longer occur.

Historically the Rothschilds (Elite Jewish family) have owned Europe since the 1700s even financing both sides of wars just to ensure they win regardless of which country wins, they are so wealthy that the government gets loans from them to finance wars, they singlehandedly created Israel, built all of it's infrastructure and even modern day infrastructure in Israel is financed by Rothschilds.

Basically the jewish mode of operation is infiltrate white countries, send whites off to die and then replace them with brown people while we're gone at war or dead, which is EXACTLY what we see happening with Ukraine right now, look at the headlines, they jewish media is saying browns need to be imported into Ukraine because of all the dead white people.

So basically, if Whites have any balls they will overthrow these parasitic jews and resist their ZOG until this is accomplished.
 
Not because Ukraine has been given all its weapons from the West, the military weapons of the Eastern countries are outdated and there are few soldiers, so Europe is unable to defend itself
A serious problem is India and China with their 1.3 billion population, for example India is now arming itself with a very large and modern weaponry in every field, well it is conceivable that if they start for reasons of war then there will be no European country that would stop them except Russia (this is also why it is a problem, among other things militarily and not only economically, that the Soviet Union ceased to exist in 1989 because the entire Russian military force withdrew along with the Russian weaponry)
Here Russia is the one with more serious military weapons and a nuclear superpower
Even the Bundeswehr does not spend on its own army, the weaponry there is not completely good either and the Germans do not have nuclear weapons because NATO has forbidden them to have them since World War II, the Germans can only receive and use nuclear weapons by international agreement
 
Of course europe have a bunch of atomic bombs
No, only Russia has a more significant arsenal, it has about 7,000 nuclear weapons, more than the USA, but Russia is the second most armed country in the world after the USA. Great Britain and some other countries also have some nuclear weapons, but they will not be able to defend themselves with them, although a nuclear war would have very serious consequences on a global scale, projected for several hundred years in advance.
 
Personally I think this is all bluff but let's say America leaves Europe completely, could Europe look after themselves? Are Europe allowed to use THAAD without American help? What kind of missiles defence system does Europe have?

We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, We shall never surrender'.

Winston Churchill..

Rule Britannia.

You filthy fucking colonists.
 
Personally I think this is all bluff but let's say America leaves Europe completely, could Europe look after themselves? Are Europe allowed to use THAAD without American help? What kind of missiles defence system does Europe have?
Who do you think the Americans are that Europe and the whole world needs them?
It's more likely that the Americans need the world!
 
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