Natural health care

[NoorDZ]

What do you think about alternative medicine and specifically natural healing for example curing cancer only with oxygen, not taking antibiotics, fasting 18 hrs after breakfast and lunch.
I see many videos about Barbara O'neill, she's a naturopath and was banned in Australia for her criticism of nowadays medicine, is the whole thing worth trying? I need your opinions especially GG members who are in medical services, thanks

 

[Flatus Tube]

My whole medical training has been in the typical Western style. My learning journey following rehab and recovery from opiate addiction has made me realise a lot of my medical training is bollocks. Food and drug companies fund most of the ‘science’ that is used to manage patients, create guidelines and train doctors. Neither of these stupidly powerful businesses wants people to get truly better.

Western medicine can be seen as…

You’ve let your grass lawn die because you’ve not cared for it. A doctor comes along and paints the brown grass green and says “it’s now better again”. Most medicine only manages symptoms of disease, poorly.

True healing comes from letting our body do what millions of years of evolution has designed it to do. Get our immune system functioning perfectly, and it can destroy some cancers leading to remission. There are many cases that have baffled doctors. Keep the immune system healthy and it destroys cancer before it becomes a problem.

Spiritual healing is more a process of managing the stress created by the world and our own minds. Learning mindful practices helps reduce stress, which in turn allows the immune system to function properly. The stress hormone cortisol reduces the ability of the immune system to fight cancer and infections while also increasing general inflammation. Reducing cortisol is very beneficial.

Diet is also vital. Plant-based foods contain thousands of bio active components which our body can use to heal. E.g. Blueberries increase the number of Natural Killer Cells in our immune system, and the spice cardamom boosts their function. An apple a day lowers cardiovascular risk as much as taking a low dose statin for your whole life. We need to eat more plants, and stop eating processed foods.

Exercise is also vital. I don’t need to go into this.

Sleep is one of the most important factors in health and healing. Most of the restorative sleep, physical and emotional, happens after 6 hours of sleep. So sleeping less than 6 hours a night significantly increases the risk of mental health problems, minor infections, cancer and early death. Spiritual healing, a good diet and exercise all help to improve sleep.

All of the above improve health independently, but also synergistically by working together. They also help to boost our microbiome which we now realise controls a huge amount of our health.

So I still practice Western medicine, but teach patients on the above to help them truly get better and improve their lives. I hope that helps.

 

[Bad Hippo]

Patient: "Doctor, i've been feeling unwell now for months, and these pills you've given me only make me feel woozy, light-headed, and stupid, without making me feel better."

Doctor: "The pills aren't working? OK, we move on to the next healthcare step - AMPUTATION. It can't hurt if it's not there!"

 

[j.f.🔎]

sleeping less than 6 hours a night significantly increases the risk of mental health problems, minor infections, cancer and early death.

Well isn't that jolly to read when you average 5?

 

[Flatus Tube]

Well isn't that jolly to read when you average 5?

Sorry, but it’s an important fact to know. I used to average 5 hours. Then I listened to the audiobook Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker. Now I ensure I give myself 7-8 hours sleep. It’s an amazing book that fully explains the neurophysiology of sleep, how to improve it etc.

 

[dwdays]

I invented a special Taint lotion.

 

[NoorDZ]

Sorry, but it’s an important fact to know. I used to average 5 hours. Then I listened to the audiobook Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker. Now I ensure I give myself 7-8 hours sleep. It’s an amazing book that fully explains the neurophysiology of sleep, how to improve it etc.

When I sleep more then 5 I wake up dizzy as and tired all day, but 5 or less I'm full of energy all day, wtf is that?

 

[hedgerow]

everybody knows if i get cancer, i'm not really going to fight it beyond basic measures...def no chemo for me

ps -- my best moment is lying down to sleep at night, so how would the eternal sleep be any different?

 

[Preacher]

Sleep is one of the most important factors in health and healing. Most of the restorative sleep, physical and emotional, happens after 6 hours of sleep. So sleeping less than 6 hours a night significantly increases the risk of mental health problems, minor infections, cancer and early death. Spiritual healing, a good diet and exercise all help to improve sleep.

I sleep on average between 10 and 12 hours a day. I must be immortal by now...

 

[Flatus Tube]

When I sleep more then 5 I wake up dizzy as and tired all day, but 5 or less I'm full of energy all day, wtf is that?

We all have a genetic chronotype. This is the type of sleep we naturally need. The basics include morning people (aka morning larks) that naturally wake up early in the day and feel tired earlier in the evening- around 1/3 of people. Then there are night owls that naturally wake up later in the morning and don’t feel tried until later in the night- about 1/3 of people. The remaining 1/3 are a mix. Evolutionarily this makes sense as it would allow tribes to have better defense/ warning during the night with less time when everyone slept. Teenagers all shift towards night owl for a few years.

There is a rare chronotype where a small number of people can truly manage with less sleep. They don’t get the negative health effects from sleeping less.

But then there is also the length of our sleep cycles. They are around 90 minutes but vary by 10-15 minutes either side person to person. If you wake at the end of a sleep cycle, just after REM (dream) sleep, you feel more refreshed. But if you wake in the middle of the cycle during deep non-REM sleep, you feel tired and groggy and your nervous system is more ‘agitated’.

 

[NoorDZ]

def no chemo for me

Definitely not

We all have a genetic chronotype. This is the type of sleep we naturally need. The basics include morning people (aka morning larks) that naturally wake up early in the day and feel tired earlier in the evening- around 1/3 of people. Then there are night owls that naturally wake up later in the morning and don’t feel tried until later in the night- about 1/3 of people. The remaining 1/3 are a mix. Evolutionarily this makes sense as it would allow tribes to have better defense/ warning during the night with less time when everyone slept. Teenagers all shift towards night owl for a few years.

There is a rare chronotype where a small number of people can truly manage with less sleep. They don’t get the negative health effects from sleeping less.

But then there is also the length of our sleep cycles. They are around 90 minutes but vary by 10-15 minutes either side person to person. If you wake at the end of a sleep cycle, just after REM (dream) sleep, you feel more refreshed. But if you wake in the middle of the cycle during deep non-REM sleep, you feel tired and groggy and your nervous system is more ‘agitated’.

That was helpful thank you

 

[mrln]

What do you think about alternative medicine and specifically natural healing for example curing cancer only with oxygen, not taking antibiotics, fasting 18 hrs after breakfast and lunch.
I see many videos about Barbara O'neill, she's a naturopath and was banned in Australia for her criticism of nowadays medicine, is the whole thing worth trying? I need your opinions especially GG members who are in medical services, thanks

the u.s. govt doesnt want anyone messin with natural/homeopath meds. they want to keep people sick,not better. theres no money in it for them. so they wont push it and say its all a farce. and its not FDA approved.
so yes. i would take that into consideration before going to some quack that will just write me script after script after script. while i have dandelions in my yard....

 

[Guipago]

What do you think about alternative medicine and specifically natural healing for example curing cancer only with oxygen, not taking antibiotics, fasting 18 hrs after breakfast and lunch.
I see many videos about Barbara O'neill, she's a naturopath and was banned in Australia for her criticism of nowadays medicine, is the whole thing worth trying? I need your opinions especially GG members who are in medical services, thanks

Definitely follow Flatus Tubes advice, bonafide retreats where they do Natural Cleansing are a start to getting the toxins out of the body & allow the body to start healing itself, if you don't remove all the artificial crap we put in, your behind the 8 ball when you start more natural foods. The Chinese say that for every week you have a problem you need 3 weeks to cure it or if you've had a problem for 1 year you will need 3 years to sort it out, the problem for modern people with Natural Healing is the cost for the fresh foods you'll need & time for the healing process, you will feel like shit when the body starts moving toxins, I know I've been there, did a 2 week cleanse years ago, by the end of the first week alcohol was coming out of my cells & I was slurring words, mad. My dad got prostate cancer so I got him on green powder drinks, shark cartilage & supplements, it slowed the spread, he was told he had 3 years, I gave him 7 & it was only when he stopped taking everything (old school guy) that the cancer started to spread again & took him out.
Natural Healing is usually started as a last resort, after something like cancer has taken hold, it should be the first thing to use as it IS going to take time, there is a process the body needs to take to heal itself, that's why NH gets a bad rap & the medical mob rubbish it, then tell you to take a pill. There are many good healing methods & some not-so-good, the bottom line is to get the body into a condition to be able to heal itself. I've been sniffing around this subject since the 80's, maybe earlier & am happy to help, though, Flatus Tube is probably more up-to-date.
Bit more useless blab, in ancient China doctors didn't visit sick people, he attended the people in his village BEFORE they got sick, very different than today.

 

[NoorDZ]

, it should be the first thing to use as it IS going to take time

That line was like a spark in my brain, sorry for your dad and you're absolutely right, I have the flu+fever from 3 days ago and took antibiotics it's like I didn't take shit, I know an alternative way which helped me before and got rid of the flu from the fist night but I couldn't find an ingredient that's why i took pills, bad choice I guess

 

[Guipago]

That line was like a spark in my brain, sorry for your dad and you're absolutely right, I have the flu+fever from 3 days ago and took antibiotics it's like I didn't take shit, I know an alternative way which helped me before and got rid of the flu from the fist night but I couldn't find an ingredient that's why i took pills, bad choice I guess

For flu's, I use the juice of 1 lemon, honey & a garlic clove finely chopped + hot water, drink the lot.
Most people don't understand that the phlegm, coughing, fevers, vomiting, diarrhea & feeling like shit are the body's defense system at work trying to remove the virus that's making you sick by making you slow down so the body can repair itself, unfortunately, we don't have the time for that in our busy lives & we use pills to cover the symptoms, catch 22.
Your use of 'fist night' has got my fertile/filthy mind working overtime---heh,heh,heh.

 

[information]

I dont like Docters i dont like those dam hippies either
Just try to avoid being sick, until you cant and if it gets really bad go see a docter

 

[slickrick27]

I'm all for alternatives. Hospitals and medicine are always a last resort for me.

the u.s. govt doesnt want anyone messin with natural/homeopath meds. they want to keep people sick,not better. theres no money in it for them. so they wont push it and say its all a farce. and its not FDA approved.
so yes. i would take that into consideration before going to some quack that will just write me script after script after script. while i have dandelions in my yard....

There's big big business in pharmaceuticals.

 

[j.f.🔎]

I dont like Docters i dont like those dam hippies either
Just try to avoid being sick, until you cant and if it gets really bad go see a docter

And if it gets really really bad maybe even see a doctOr too.

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

What do you think about alternative medicine and specifically natural healing for example curing cancer only with oxygen, not taking antibiotics, fasting 18 hrs after breakfast and lunch.
I see many videos about Barbara O'neill, she's a naturopath and was banned in Australia for her criticism of nowadays medicine, is the whole thing worth trying? I need your opinions especially GG members who are in medical services, thanks

That wont cure cancer, please go to a doctor.

 

[NoorDZ]

That wont cure cancer, please go to a doctor.

Depends on the stage and type of cancer, there are cases which have been cured