Serious What are your views on Zionism / US war on terror

[thebully08$]

you're wrong, were you there? I believe it. Are you a jew lover?

I don't have time to argue with you Man, believe what you want.

 

[thebully08$]

no...why are you quoting yourself? I'm beginning to believe that you may be a moron. Prove me wrong.

4+4=8

 

[hedgerow]

okay, maybe i was wrong

 

[Lixiuum]

I find myself agreeing with you on a few things here.

Chiefly the "parasitic nature".

For example it is said by Solzhenitsyn in 200 years together (an account on the Jews and their 200 odd years in Russia-which includes Ukraine obviously) that the Jews first came as refugees and established themselves as liquor vendors. (Because they detested having to work or labour) After the population (largely landless farm labourers), was addicted, to feed their habits they pawned their hovels and farm implements used to turb the soil, harvest etc. to the Jews (who were mind you making liquor with the grain, the seed and all). The Jews then sold the farm implements to arrange capital to start another trade of lending money to these unfortunates who used it to buy from the Jews liquor. Now having been rendered without means to grow crops there were great famines in the Ukraine during this time. Later these man-made tragedies would be dwarfed by the holodomor which Solzhenitsyn states was commited by a people who did not consider themselves Russians or Slavics and who saw them as inferior and I am ashamed to say less than human.

Of course this is paraphrasing of of story I read in 200 years together (samizdat edition) which is not a official or good translation into English.

One may argue then that communism was also a form of Jewish supremacism as many of the chief apparatchiks and ideologues were Jewish. Cultural Jewish mind you not the kind of practicing Jews that are often caricaturised but the same people nonetheless by their own logic of Jewish being an ethnicity.

As a person from India I think Solzhenitsyn was a great writer and Russian person. I have a great feeling for Russia so I have no reason to doubt his sincerity. But I am also aware he was a Christian (in Soviet Russia) but one who subscribed to the tenets of Eastern Christianity and what was left of it in Russia at the time.

Now as for the Christian claim of Jesus being killed by the Jews I am not at all knowledgeable and I must say the only thing I know on this is the apocryphal utterance by a crowd of Jewish "let his blood be upon us" in response to Pilate's entreaties to the crowd against crucifying Jesus.
I will not delve into the theological aspects of it as it would be wholly outside my "jurisdiction" and even somewhat troublesome as it would require me to read more of Ratzinger! Yes, your Pope Benedict XVI . I am aware he wrote extensively on Christian doctrine and on such important events as discussed by me and mentioned by you. It certainly is worth reading though because it seems to be the fulcrum on which anti-semitism if it exists may possibly be justifiable. If not in practise in everyday affairs atleast in the minds of men , in matters of faith.

So yea my 2 cents on it.

Thanks for the reply.

P.S. Were not the earliest Christian people themselves from the region around Jerusalem so in effect other than the Christians converted from "pagan" beliefs the original Christians must have looked like the Jews I imagine of today.Well not all of them but maybe a few who managed to "inbreed" within the tribe. But I do agree endogamy is not something tolerated even in Vedic dharma. It is certainly frowned upon and may result in the grotesque psyiognomy that you define in such wonderfully evocative terms !

Endogamy is just one example of their racial exclusiveness . Another great one is their insistence on being buried separately from non jews. Its common in American and European cemeteries to see a seperate gated area with a star of david sign where only jews can be buried. Its pretty funny

You can read ancient accounts of how ugly they were/are. The examples from the hellenistic greeks are especially notable because they otherwise tended to find eastern women attractive. Alexander himself (who married 2 eastern wives) refused to take a Jewish wife. Look at Jews now and imagine if they hadn't been in Europe for a few millenia...🤮

As to your point about the early Christians

That land had been conquered first by Alexander , then by Romans, by the time Jesus was born, and as a result the population was mixed. That being said Jesus, and all 12 of the apostles were Jewish, and were told by Jesus to focus on converting "the lost sheep of Israel ". That failed fast, as most Jews saw Jesus as just another false messiah and the apostles began preaching to the gentiles (actual humans), with Saint Thomas even going as far as India. Early Christianity largely spread amongst the non Jewish populations in the region, Greeks, Romans, Armenians etc, with the actual Jews themselves likely looking on in horror. So not counting the apostles, I dont think early Christians as a group should be lumped in with Jewish ugliness.

 

[Deleted member 452804]

Endogamy is just one example of their racial exclusiveness . Another great one is their insistence on being buried separately from non jews. Its common in American and European cemeteries to see a seperate gated area with a star of david sign where only jews can be buried. Its pretty funny

You can read ancient accounts of how ugly they were/are. The examples from the hellenistic greeks are especially notable because they otherwise tended to find eastern women attractive. Alexander himself (who married 2 eastern wives) refused to take a Jewish wife. Look at Jews now and imagine if they hadn't been in Europe for a few millenia...🤮

As to your point about the early Christians

That land had been conquered first by Alexander , then by Romans, by the time Jesus was born, and as a result the population was mixed. That being said Jesus, and all 12 of the apostles were Jewish, and were told by Jesus to focus on converting "the lost sheep of Israel ". That failed fast, as most Jews saw Jesus as just another false messiah and the apostles began preaching to the gentiles (actual humans), with Saint Thomas even going as far as India. Early Christianity largely spread amongst the non Jewish populations in the region, Greeks, Romans, Armenians etc, with the actual Jews themselves likely looking on in horror. So not counting the apostles, I dont think early Christians as a group should be lumped in with Jewish ugliness.

Actually, I think it would be wiser to instead focus on the sources of Christianity in light of the two oldest languages which preserved and propagated it viz. Greek and Aramaic.

What I know about Thomas is that he may well likely have set out towards India (because the roads towards India were known for a time in the west at least since Alexander visited the western frontiers of India and there was a certain cultural exchange by Seleucus Nikator who was one of governors of the regions traipsed by Alexander of Macedon of what is present day Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan. It is preserved in 2nd-3rd century Syrian (Aramaic) records considered apocryphal mind you by the Roman Catholic or more properly the Greek Church that he was killed in a desert like region.

Now this casts great doubt on the likelihood of Thomas ever arriving in Kerala or Tamil Nadu which are the two south Indian states, one of which I have visited myself and which are lush green and with a tropical climate.

Various religious traditions among Christians however exist in India which attest to Thomas's arrival somewhere along the Malabar (west Asian coast of India) but they have dubious historicity and were likely sorry to say concocted during either Portuguese or even British times and given traction. This is even more likely since there was permitted for traders to have settlements or at least safe havens in south Indian kingdoms in which they could follow their own beliefs and traditions unmolested and in which they in all likelihood mixed with the local population.

Personally I have no opposition to the idea of St. Thomas visiting India but there is little histographic support to the claim he visited India or that he existed.
His oldest proponents lay claim to the theory of his visiting on Syrian sources and its corruptions and preservations in their own communities. Now it is also said in all likelihood that the Syrian Christians at least some of them of today were Jewish traders who were settled in Syria and spoke Aramaic and were through Portuguese inquisitions converted preserving thus their cultural Judaism in the form of already existing Syrian eastern Christan traditions.
Now as I said earlier in the minds of men , and in matters of faith, such may be permissible but this the Church may seem fit to declare and since the Eastern Church of Christianity as an institution has gone into decline atleast since the fall of Constantinople possibly earlier I think this question must be answered by some ecclesiastical authority before it is given credence. Especially since there is great dismay among the opposers to such a belief that state that the martyrs of Christianity are often made at the cost of the natives of the land that Christianity seeks to conquer or dominate. With such a approach how can the minds of men we won over in the long term?

 

[D.O.A.]

When your world view and religious doctrine is to outright murder the unbelievers, yes. Im not saying I agree with jewish doctrine. If you educate yourself and understand what Islam actually teaches, it has no place in civilized society. Both religions are insane, but one is truly evil and cannot function in any form outside of zealous conformity...

This is correct answer 👍🏻

Judaism and Christianity are not a theocracy. We don't answer to priests. Islam is truly cancerous and goes against everything the west has ever stood for. Charlemagne would be rolling in his grave if he knew Aachen was full of goat fuckers.

 

[Honest]

 

[Deleted member 452804]

Is it just me ? I find this riveting.

 

[hedgerow]

Trump attacking Iran would be his first big mistake...America First, remember?
ps - yet another president who promised to extradite the US from endless wars, only to start a new one within 6 months

 

[T4k1t0]

DAMM

 

[Dirl]

Zionism was a political movement that emerged in the 19th century. And why? Because Jews have always managed to integrate themselves into the spheres of power of their countries, in fact it was this ability that ensured their survival to this day. And whenever there was a political and social crisis, the Jews were always the scapegoats. Hence the creation of a political movement that defended the founding of a country just for Jews, to avoid further persecution of this religious minority.

I don't know what the Portuguese Inquisition, the Jesuits and the Jews have in common. Well, the Inquisition persecuted the Jews and the Jesuits in the 18th century, but I won't even bother explaining , because it's obvious that many here has ever picked up a history book, just shitty conspiracy theories and fairy tales.

Finally, it's shocking how there are people in the 21st century who can't distinguish religion from an ethnic group. Hahaha.

And for those who hate Christianity, whether you like it or not, the pillars of our Western societies are based on Christianity, without it there would be no America, Australia, etc. etc. etc... and we would certainly still be wiping our asses with tree leaves or living in mud huts like the viking pagans did before they converted.😆


Israel is a jewish version in the middle east of the western christian societies. They aren’t angels but things aren’t black and white either.

 

[Joker1981]

Talmudic Kikes and Sharia Musloids killing each other, is a dream come true.

 

[Grand Mal Caesar]

Talmudic Kikes and Sharia Musloids killing each other, is a dream come true.

Same shit, different day is a dream for you?

 

[DrGoodEvil]

I recently watched this video and what i gathered was that Zionism(which is essentially modern political Judaism with a speical emphasis on Israel) and Christianity are closely linked due to them having same prophets, books in part and similar eschatology. Is Islam your problem child since atleast the late medieval age and well into the present if so, should not Christian America support Israel in its defence.

Someone on forum with cyrillic name called me a "retarded Zionist warmonger" I mean it was kind of shocking given this is a shock site but it got me thinking am i one? Well to think of it retard maybe, I have never taken a psychometric evaluation. Zionist yea probably I support Israel definitely. Warmonger. well war if for a just cause is imperative so yea if you mean it that way sure.

I mean the guy say being interviewed says Islamic pastors or rather mullahs are openly calling for death to jews from Texas mosques and giving scriptural authority to their pronouncements which are shaping discourse in US and on the street. Why are Christians in US not more vocal in their support for Israel? How is even Texas now becoming a state dangerous for holding discourse? Being seemingly held hostage by nameless few beholden to and guided by this very virulent anti-Israel, anti-Christian, secular, leftist potpourri which is essentially the enemy within.

The guy said , "American Jihad" which is now home grown. I mean the present policy seems to me to bury one's head in the sand like the ostrich from the US side. I mean like close one's eyes and pretend not to see , hear, or just wait a threat out in the hope it disappears or to pretend it does not exist.

Even if I remember correctly one of your veterans said that the regular joe in US did not know where Afghanistan was before the war or what the threat was look at this veteran talking about the immediate aftermath of the terrible event in 2001 and they were shocked and appaled by 9/11 and had to look up Afghanistan on a map.

Seems to me US was a idyllic place then free from any Islamist threat which is why it was booming. I mean a war was thrust on US and the intervention in Afghanistan was just and proper. Why is the side of the American populace that does not support the war more vocal? I mean you always count the pennies that the war cost this much and that much. I say the war was worth every penny and engaging in it was the right thing to do. Not going after Bin Laden and his crew at that point or invading would have been being penny wise pound foolish. I mean sure we all know lots of stuff happened behind the scenes and your intelligence agencies probably have lialson with most if not all terror groups in some capacity but is that not their job? Does that suddenly mean that no threats exist?



I mean when i see where US was then and the daily lived experience of many countries around the world I see parallels. It was a just fight then, it is a just fight today. Israel faces this threat today and it's taking action why you folks gotta be so ... go ahead and duke it out in Iran. It's clearly a bad actor in the region and has deliberately closed itself to dialogue by making untenable positions it's core state ideology and is continually acting towards it.

Damn dude, you're pretty blinded of the forest because the trees are in your way.
The Israeli SLUGS have had their hand in EVERY SNEAKY FALSE FLAG ACT for the past 3 millennia for starters.
Then top that off with THE FUCKING SLAUGHTER OF THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF THE MOST INNOCENT OF US ALL, CHILDREN. AND WOMEN.
THERE IS NOTHING THE EVIL JEWS CAN SAY TO EXCUSE THE SLAUGHTER OF CHILDREN. Just this one evil, heinous act is more than enough to put every last jew in an oven. Now I know why EVERY SETTLEMENT ATTEMPT, 100+ throughout history ended with the sickening Jewrats getting run out of town, the townspeople chasing them out with pitchforks and torches, I'd wager. They're gonna pay. It's as certain as the sun rising. And when they do, if im alive to see it, I will throw the biggest outdoor bar-b-que party ever seen

 

[Mr. Meat Sled]

For an informed opinion see The War on Terror by Christopher Bollyn. You can download a free copy from Anna's Archive.

Did he write a really good article about Bloomberg when he was running for president?

 

[Elon]

Not that I recall. Bollyn is a 9/11 scholar. If you're looking for well-written pieces on Bloomberg, you should probably check out renegadetribune.com

 

[Tinkle_Star]

"Israel was created as the instrument to bring about the battle of armageddon and fulfilment of prophecy, a war that will be so terrible where nuclear weapons will be used so that the American citizens and the other people of the world will beg for no more war and what's the answer to that? They're going to be told that the only way we can guarantee no more war is if we destroy the sovereignty of nations and we come together as one humanity under one world government. Starting in about 1996, battle of Armageddon will become a reality, that's why Saddam Hussein will not be destroyed, he will be the instrument to bring that to pass. Saddam Hussein will be shown as the Anti Christ. Babylon is in Iraq. It's not about oil, it's about the revival of Mystery Babylon. Read the book of Revelations wether you believe in the book or not, read it because the men who are bringing this about are using it as their script" William Milton Cooper 1992 CNN interview

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and finally Iran

Except Saddam got a pretty rope necklace in the end, and his sons got their brains blown out, the people of Iraq were slapping posters and statues of the old tyrant with their shoes…

 

[Fäthër Cörpsë]

Except Saddam got a pretty rope necklace in the end, and his sons got their brains blown out, the people of Iraq were slapping posters and statues of the old tyrant with their shoes…

Reminds me of this

 

[Tinkle_Star]

When your world view and religious doctrine is to outright murder the unbelievers, yes. Im not saying I agree with jewish doctrine. If you educate yourself and understand what Islam actually teaches, it has no place in civilized society. Both religions are insane, but one is truly evil and cannot function in any form outside of zealous conformity...

Exactly this…muzrats want to invade every country, spew nonsense, kill off anybody who is not a muzrat, declare sharia law, and essentially take over the world, and therein lies the problem…Communists would rather drop nukes then accept religion, The US fought very hard to be a country on its own, and the Republicans have lots of money, while the Dems are so fake about how they “support” the woke idiots…they really don’t care about woke but love luring them in with their lies only to use these people to get into power, then dems give wokes some perks and when Trump takes it away and now they’re crying while dying their hair blue…, Oh and the U.K. is supported by the Commonweath, but they really need to get rid of Starner, and the bleeding liberal heart of King Chaz…people have to open their damn eyes…

 

[hedgerow]

and the bleeding liberal heart of King Chaz…people have to open their damn eyes…

i like to call him King Upchuck