What came first the laws of nature, or the universe?

[Russellmark11]

and there you are being hurt by having your ego smacked a little bit. but even negativity is fuel to a narcissist.

you even copied my words fyi.


into your words

I shall leave you to google your reply

My ego isn't hurt. It was an explanation of why you were wrong told in the same attitude that you responded in. Do you really think by attacking a persons character is how you win an argument?
I don't think you understand the definition of narcissists either because like you, they devalue others as a way to boost their own self-esteem and maintain a sense of superiority. And then trying to project your own undesirable or unacceptable qualities onto another person.

I don't even understand what you are even talking about copying.
Something comes from nothing once nothing is measured. The measuring of nothingness thus brings it in to existence as something.
People who believe in God believe God brought existence from nothing. He commanded and from nothing it appeared.

don't get so butthurt, fag. i simplified your roundabout claim. it's not my fault you can't comprehend your own claims.

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Whatever helps you sleep at night champ.

 

[se7en.is.back]

If you want to keep believing in god then you should probably stop reading up on science. It will disappoint you.

yes. jesus is part of the trinity, so i wasn't wrong.

are you a kike? if not, quit talking like one.

there's two types of scientists: christian scientists and jewish scientists. all i have to do is listen to the christian scientists, and science will be all fine and dandy. i learned never to trust a kike quite early. it's truly a damn shame you fags still fall for their godless tricks. unsurprisingly, that "big bang theory" was inspired by genesis 1:3. i listened to what that christian scientist had to say about his theory, and i wasn't disappointed. it helped me understand what genesis 1:3 may have meant. see? simple as that.

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wait. you're saying if i believe god always existed, then i believe god always existed. wow. so smart. just kidding. so stupid. stupid intellectual wannabe.

Oh wow, you must of suffered a lot of head injuries. I don't think I could actually have a serious conversation with someone like you.

 

[Dolly]

My ego isn't hurt. It was an explanation of why you were wrong told in the same attitude that you responded in. Do you really think by attacking a persons character is how you win an argument?
I don't think you understand the definition of narcissists either because like you, they devalue others as a way to boost their own self-esteem and maintain a sense of superiority. And then trying to project your own undesirable or unacceptable qualities onto another person.

I don't even understand what you are even talking about copying.
Something comes from nothing once nothing is measured. The measuring of nothingness thus brings it in to existence as something.
People who believe in God believe God brought existence from nothing. He commanded and from nothing it appeared.


Whatever helps you sleep at night champ.

What a novella, somebody is a teensy bit upset.

 

[evil retard]

I don't think

no worries. we christians will do the thinking for you, jew cattle.

 

[se7en.is.back]

no worries. we christians will do the thinking for you, jew cattle.

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I'm not jewish, I raised Catholic and now after receiving all my sacraments & studying the bible for 12 years, I'm now atheist. The irony of you blindly following christianity and then telling me "I don't think, like cattle" is exactly why I made my full comment in the first place. You're incredibly predictable and easy to read. I can't take you serious.

 

[Guipago]

If you keep wondering WTF is going on/why in the universe you will end up with stress hives.
NASA’s Webb Delivers Deepest Infrared Image of Universe Yet - NASA

The picture from webb telescope is as if you held a grain of sand at arms length that would be the size of the universe you would see in the picture & most of what you see are all galaxy's--- it's a BIG place.

 

[evil retard]

Something comes from nothing once nothing is measured. The measuring of nothingness thus brings it in to existence as something.
People who believe in God believe God brought existence from nothing. He commanded and from nothing it appeared.

well, that's a weird way to say nothingness has opportunity through god.

I'm not jewish, I raised Catholic and now after receiving all my sacraments & studying the bible for 12 years, I'm now atheist.

cool. irrelevant.

you blindly following christianity

no. those who blindly follow christianity are the "christians" who refuse to use science to understand and help god's world and his people, unlike me.

telling me "I don't think, like cattle"

who are you quoting, because i never said that? there are those who follow god, and there are those who follow satan. christians are sheep to god, and everyone else is sheep to satan. simple as that. anyway, i bet you can't name one non-christian scientist who came up with a "beneficial" theory that wasn't a manipulated version of some christian scientist's previous work. i'm gonna enjoy some delicious homemade pie while i wait. good luck, bud.

I can't take you serious.

damn. you keep telling me that, as if people here actually take you seriously. you sound very insecure. not my problem. best of luck.

 

[vacaloca]

Despite the Big Bang, “Cosmic Origins Remain a Mystery”

Did you know that evolutionary scientists can’t explain where space, time, matter, and energy came from?

answersingenesis.org

Alot of people don't know that the big bang theory doesn't explain the creation of the cosmos, but rather the evolution of it. So even if someone were to accept the big bang theory, where were the forces of nature before matter? If you believe in the laws of nature, they aren't physical, they aren't something we can see even with a telescope or microscope, but we know they are there and they exist. Kinda sounds like God to me, what do you think?


If I were to believe that something came from nothing, there were still the laws and forces of nature that govern the entire universe. Which means there was still something even before matter existed. There had to of been some kind of energy, and we know through physics, energy can not be created from nothing.

Religion was invented so that people would not commit suicide thinking about these things, before a god they prayed to the sun and the moon hehe. It's the meaning of life, don't think too much and if you do, upload your video here, I'll give you a like

 

[NoConvexity]

A Bunch of psuedo-science regurgitation going on here.

 

[Russellmark11]

who are you quoting, because i never said that? there are those who follow god, and there are those who follow satan. christians are sheep to god, and everyone else is sheep to satan. simple as that. anyway, i bet you can't name one non-christian scientist who came up with a "beneficial" theory that wasn't a manipulated version of some christian scientist's previous work. i'm gonna enjoy some delicious homemade pie while i wait. good luck, bud.

Hermes was probably the earliest one that they still have writings from. His Hermetic teachings are found in the Kybalion.

A Bunch of psuedo-science regurgitation going on here.

The difference between science and psuedo-science is merely definitional disagreements because the categories are too broad and fuzzy on the edges, and the term “pseudo-science” is used against any claim one happens to dislike for any reason.

 

[evil retard]

before a god they prayed to the sun and the moon hehe.

bullshit. god always existed. bezaliel was the fallen angel who taught mankind godless astrology in order to turn them away from god. look at every fucking sun-worshipping civilization and their culture. all godless degenerates, i tell you.

Hermes was probably the earliest one that they still have writings from. His Hermetic teachings are found in the Kybalion.

damn. you like to learn. good for you. hermes was enoch, the biblical author. his "book of enoch" explains exactly why god flooded the earth: the fallen angels, the nephilim, the sorcery, the weaponry, etc. hermes aka enoch was taught wisdom and sorcery by the fallen angels, which is how he wrote those teachings you mentioned that taught shit mankind was never supposed to know or question.

 

[Amalgamation]

"book of enoch"

Pseudepigraphal.

Coming back to say I recall you saying elsewhere you don't only read the Bible, so disregard that.

 

[Russellmark11]

bullshit. god always existed. bezaliel was the fallen angel who taught mankind godless astrology in order to turn them away from god. look at every fucking sun-worshipping civilization and their culture. all godless degenerates, i tell you.

damn. you like to learn. good for you. hermes was enoch, the biblical author. his "book of enoch" explains exactly why god flooded the earth: the fallen angels, the nephilim, the sorcery, the weaponry, etc. hermes aka enoch was taught wisdom and sorcery by the fallen angels, which is how he wrote those teachings you mentioned that taught shit mankind was never supposed to know or question.

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That is what the English bible says and what some people want to believe.
But the original scrolls and other biblical texts that are written in Aramaic, Paleo-Hebrew, and Koine Greek don't use any words that you can match up to the later biblical translations. There isn't a single one them that says God flooded the Earth by rain. All of them say that "Great waters came and covered the land for many days and nights, it then receded back to where it came." Somehow a scribe translated that as it rained and flooded the Earth for 40 days.

Pseudepigraphal.

Coming back to say I recall you saying elsewhere you don't only read the Bible, so disregard that.

I think he only reads Youtube. Don't quote me on that tho. 😂

 

[evil retard]

Pseudepigraphal.

Coming back to say I recall you saying elsewhere you don't only read the Bible, so disregard that.

never trust a kike. those godless fucks removed and labelled that book "false" because it exposed their cursed origins.

I think he only reads Youtube.

pfft. you wish it was that easy. jewtube will never mention the book of enoch.

There isn't a single one them that says God flooded the Earth by rain. All of them say that "Great waters came and covered the land for many days and nights, it then receded back to where it came." Somehow a scribe translated that as it rained and flooded the Earth for 40 days.

damn. that's beside the point. i was really talking about the "book of enoch" vols. 1 and 2, not the "book of genesis".

 

[slickrick27]

in ancient times many tried to philosophize the start of our origins but when the jesus times rolled around they weaponized independent thinking with the bible.

every violent religion does this, its called heresy. we only need to open any history book to find the proof.

so again, what is god, not who?

God is eternal. That's what He is.

That is what the English bible says and what some people want to believe.
But the original scrolls and other biblical texts that are written in Aramaic, Paleo-Hebrew, and Koine Greek don't use any words that you can match up to the later biblical translations. There isn't a single one them that says God flooded the Earth by rain. All of them say that "Great waters came and covered the land for many days and nights, it then receded back to where it came." Somehow a scribe translated that as it rained and flooded the Earth for 40 days.


I think he only reads Youtube. Don't quote me on that tho. 😂

Post your proof of that claim. Because I call b.s on that. They found the dead sea scrolls and many other ancient manuscripts that confirm the flood.

 

[SickoPsycho01]

The laws of nature are directly correlated to the laws of the universe, no? There could not be one without the other already in place. Any natural life resides within the universe, so the laws of nature lie within the parameters of the laws of the universe…?

 

[Stormy Llewellyn]

I use to reflect on eternity and our origin... I never had a problem with things continuing on forever, yet I couldn't quite comprehend things always having been... it's suppose to be described as a complete circle, but that would eliminate time...

I do know this: It starts making me anxious and dizzy to contemplate it deeply, so I don't even try anymore. Wouldn't it be great if we could hop in and out of our timelines (or better yet: our parent's and grandparent's timelines)? Watch scenes like watching a movie...

 

[hedgerow]

I do know this: It starts making me anxious and dizzy to contemplate it deeply, so I don't even try anymore.

Exactly. They say the universe goes on forever. How can this be, and what is endless space?

This freaks me out, so i tend not to think about it. I'm a mental-simpelton, but still smarter than that real retard, evil.

 

[slickrick27]

The laws of nature are directly correlated to the laws of the universe, no? There could not be one without the other already in place. Any natural life resides within the universe, so the laws of nature lie within the parameters of the laws of the universe…?

Well there's 3 things that make up the universe. Most people don't know the answer to this, but it's very simple-space, time and matter. None of them could exist independently. So the laws of nature always existed as long as there was anything that existed. Does that make sense to you?

 

[evil retard]

Exactly. They say the universe goes on forever. How can this be, and what is endless space?

This freaks me out, so i tend not to think about it.