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F-16s head to Ukraine to begin flights this summer 🛩️ 🇺🇦

True, but they're also testing western weapons against Russian technology. I think it's alot of using the Ukrainians as guinea pigs for western weapons, warfare tactics, and technology against the russians.
... With so many US politicians political interests rested deep in Ukraines black markets, they'll keep pushing for war and weapon market expansion...

... Otherwise, why don't we simply send only refugee supplies to Ukraine citizens only???

...If people really care, I can't imagine what the citizens have to put up with and I doubt very much they care about this dirty war...
 


From AP. left news.

"The president of the United States, Zelenskyy added, must be “uncompromising in defending democracy, uncompromising against (Russian President Vladimir) Putin and his coterie.”"

Zelenskyy has proven to be an adept navigator of international relations in defense of his war-ravaged country, publicly cajoling and sometimes loudly complaining to get the military assistance it needs to defend itself against Russia.



What a fucking joke. May that cocksucker burn in a Russian shit pit.




If the US has a change in administration come Nov. (Hopefully).

Zelenskyy will be demonstrating to the World how much of a puppet he is to the Elites….not to mention how he made it possible for hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to die plus all the mass migration of Ukrainians World Wide.
 
Yes... but you know Trump...he is salesman.
Yea he talks a better game than he plays. He said a whole bunch of shit in 2016 that never panned out too.



From AP. left news.

"The president of the United States, Zelenskyy added, must be “uncompromising in defending democracy, uncompromising against (Russian President Vladimir) Putin and his coterie.”"

Zelenskyy has proven to be an adept navigator of international relations in defense of his war-ravaged country, publicly cajoling and sometimes loudly complaining to get the military assistance it needs to defend itself against Russia.



What a fucking joke. May that cocksucker burn in a Russian shit pit.




If the US has a change in administration come Nov. (Hopefully).

Zelenskyy will be demonstrating to the World how much of a puppet he is to the Elites….not to mention how he made it possible for hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to die plus all the mass migration of Ukrainians World Wide.
No PUTIN did that. Where the fuck to you get off blaming the people who were attacked for having dignity and fighting back?

Not entirely true, Obama/Biden did send $600million in military aid but wouldn’t send javelin’s, trump said yes to the javelins


Got kicked out of Afghanistan no?
Really I could have swore that they sent aid but not offensive weapons. I’ll have too look that up again it’s been a while.

the US is the bully here...how would you like Russia at our doorstep?

^ the US controls NATO and the demon-rats are currently controlling the US...try to put 2+2 together...think for yourself
We weren’t at russia’s door step so I don’t know what you’re talking about. I would mind Russia being on our doorstep though, like the Baltic states, because Russia invaded and assisted at will if the smaller countries doesn’t do what it wants. You’ve probably bought into the John Meirsheimer bullshit line huh that’s it’s nato expansions fault?
 
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why are we still fucking with this? Ukraine was never a part of NATO. and still isnt.
wastewastewastewaste! meanwhile here in the u.s.a. :rollseyes2:
So you want to send those weapons and equipment to what the poor or the inner cities or what? How do you think us not helping Ukraine would help our domestic problems?
 
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For the first time in this entire conflict I agree with something Zelesnkyy said....

Nobody expects (not even him) that the F16s will generate any kind of change. Not because they were sent late, but because the number Ukraine needs is considerably several times larger. Added to this is the low/no experience / combat experience of the Ukrainian pilots on this platform, which is most important, and how exposed the entire Ukrainian territory is and will continue to be to a Russian attack.

If I had to bet, I would bet that if the F16s ever arrive in Ukraine they will not last long in the sky (they are a main target of propaganda for Russia, like the Leopards and the M1) and even some of them will not even get able to take off....

The only thing I can think of for these F16s to last a while is for them to be flown by USA experienced pilots and to take off from air bases not located within Ukrainian territory. But it is difficult for both things to happen...
 
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FROM POLITICO

Excerpt from article/first few paragraphs:

“American-made F-16s to Ukraine, with hopes that the fighter jets will quickly be in the skies to help Kyiv defend itself against Russian air onslaughts.

The U.S., Denmark and the Netherlands announced during the NATO Summit in Washington on Wednesday that the two latter countries had sent over the aircraft, though they did not say how many. U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken also mentioned the news during a public forum.”


Bout’ time!!!

Full Article:
Stupid motherfuckers, that being my government and their fever for embezzled money! They ALWAYS take it to what they believe is the limit before retaliation...then go just a bit more and reak havoc. They will start a permawar to keep selling weapons and artillary in perpetuity. We GOTTS STOP THEM. ITS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION HERE IN MY WONDERFUL COUNTRY. I don't blame Russia ONE FUCKIN BIT. MY COUNTRY AND THE WEST IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SHIT. BULLIES. CRIMINALS. A LITERAL CRIME SYNDICATE CONSISTING OF THE CIA, THE NSA, Homeland Security, the DOD and The military industrial complex. We might have to lose our sovereignty to return to what we have always been. We need to remove them OURSELVES BEFORE THIS HAPPENS.

Not entirely true, Obama/Biden did send $600million in military aid but wouldn’t send javelin’s, trump said yes to the javelins


Got kicked out of Afghanistan no?
You fuckin idiots have NO CLUE if you think Russia is either responsible for this debacle OR is anything but getting really pissed off. My 🇺🇸 along with the NATO countries have been egging this on since 1989. I hope my government gets put to death. So much!
 
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Putin had no choice.
Oh yea, how did he have no choice?

dude im not gunna even answer that... :rolleyes:
Good because you can’t because you’re wrong if you think if we weren’t helping Ukraine we could give more welfare or whatever. Not how it works.

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For the first time in this entire conflict I agree with something Zelesnkyy said....

Nobody expects (not even him) that the F16s will generate any kind of change. Not because they were sent late, but because the number Ukraine needs is considerably several times larger. Added to this is the low/no experience / combat experience of the Ukrainian pilots on this platform, which is most important, and how exposed the entire Ukrainian territory is and will continue to be to a Russian attack.

If I had to bet, I would bet that if the F16s ever arrive in Ukraine they will not last long in the sky (they are a main target of propaganda for Russia, like the Leopards and the M1) and even some of them will not even get able to take off....

The only thing I can think of for these F16s to last a while is for them to be flown by USA experienced pilots and to take off from air bases not located within Ukrainian territory. But it is difficult for both things to happen...
The Ukrainian pilots have been trained by experienced us pilots though and I’m sorry but the Russian flying the MiGs don’t have experience in dogfights with other jets either so it’s a moot point I think.

Stupid motherfuckers, that being my government and their fever for embezzled money! They ALWAYS take it to what they believe is the limit before retaliation...then go just a bit more and reak havoc. They will start a permawar to keep selling weapons and artillary in perpetuity. We GOTTS STOP THEM. ITS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION HERE IN MY WONDERFUL COUNTRY. I don't blame Russia ONE FUCKIN BIT. MY COUNTRY AND THE WEST IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SHIT. BULLIES. CRIMINALS. A LITERAL CRIME SYNDICATE CONSISTING OF THE CIA, THE NSA, Homeland Security, the DOD and The military industrial complex. We might have to lose our sovereignty to return to what we have always been. We need to remove them OURSELVES BEFORE THIS HAPPENS.


You fuckin idiots have NO CLUE if you think Russia is either responsible for this debacle OR is anything but getting really pissed off. My 🇺🇸 along with the NATO countries have been egging this on since 1989. I hope my government gets put to death. So much!
Dude seek help please for your mania and stay away from the Russian bots.
 
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Oh yea, how did he have no choice?


Good because you can’t because you’re wrong if you think if we weren’t helping Ukraine we could give more welfare or whatever. Not how it works.


The Ukrainian pilots have been trained by experienced us pilots though and I’m sorry but the Russian flying the MiGs don’t have experience in dogfights with other jets either so it’s a moot point I think.
If China or Russia started interfering in Canadian political affairs, training their soldiers, building military bases close to your border and treating Canadian-Americans as subhumans ... what would the White House do? Invade Canada.

There's much more but i'm tired to spend my energy regarding this topic...Putin had no choice like it was said above.
 
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The Ukrainian pilots have been trained by experienced us pilots though and I’m sorry but the Russian flying the MiGs don’t have experience in dogfights with other jets either so it’s a moot point I think.

Training a pilot on a platform takes at least 1 year. Training so that he is considered to have experience on that platform is no less than 3 years. It is not difficult to fly a combat aircraft, in fact, it is easier than flying many civil aircraft, the difficult thing is knowing how to use it efficiently as a military platform, and the latter takes years. Not just a couple of months...

Regarding the Russian pilots:
- Russian pilots do have a lot of experience, they have been flying their machines for years and they also have combat experience.
- If the Russian pilots can do what they did with this F35 ( theoretically "stealth" ) imagine what they can do against an F16 :

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But if you want to continue thinking the same thing, be my guest...
 
من بوليتيكو

مقتطف من المقال/الفقرات القليلة الأولى:

"طائرات إف-16 أمريكية الصنع إلى أوكرانيا، على أمل أن تصل هذه الطائرات المقاتلة بسرعة إلى السماء لمساعدة كييف في الدفاع عن نفسها ضد الهجمات الجوية الروسية.

وأعلنت الولايات المتحدة والدنمرك وهولندا خلال قمة حلف شمال الأطلسي في واشنطن يوم الأربعاء أن الدولتين الأخيرتين أرسلتا الطائرات، رغم أنها لم تحدد عدد الطائرات. كما ذكر وزير الخارجية الأمريكي أنتوني بلينكن الخبر خلال منتدى عام.


وقت القتال!!!

المادة كاملة:
كHow I wish for a third war to break out. It is like a wedding day
 
eeric you act like a fucking know it all. when you dont know as much as you think. how old are you? are you in your 50's-70's with this life experience? are you some kind of rhode scholar? an ivy league grad? done the military thing?
no? then shut the fuck up once in a while. and im trying to be nice here. and im saying this on what others here think also. just look at all the reactions you get. most arent good!
 
Russians are laughing and waiting the prey to come for slaughter, just like they did for the great Summer offensive 2023. It's great time to be alive when clearly 80-90% of the population in the western countries are brainwashed retarded dumb fucks believing you can defeat Russia, when in last 1000 years history nobody has achieved that. I remember, when young, reading from books and learning that to be wise, you should learn from history. Well... here we go again.
Obviously you never learned from history or those books you read, you stupid ignorant retarded fuck.

You claim "nobody" has beaten Russia in the last 1,000 years? Except of course for:
  • The Cold War (West & NATO 1991)
  • World War I (German Empire 1918)
  • Crimean War (Britain & Ottoman Empire 1856)
  • The Russo-Japanese War (Japan 1905)
  • The Soviet-Afghan War (Afghan Mujahedeen 1989)
  • Livonian War (Livonian Confederation, Denmark-Norway, Sweden, Poland 1583)
  • Ingrian War (Sweden 1617)
  • Smolensk War (Poland, Lithuania 1634)
  • Alexis I’s Persian War (Persia 1653)
  • Sino-Russian War (China 1689)
  • Russo-Ottoman War (Ottoman Empire 1713)
  • Khivan War (Khanate of Khiva 1717)
  • War of the Third Coalition (France 1806)
  • Latvian War of Independence (Latvia, Poland, Lithuania, Germany 1920)
  • Estonian War of Independence (Estonia, Latvia, United Kingdom 1920)
  • Polish-Soviet War (Poland 1921)
  • First Chechan War (Chechan Republic of Ichkeria, Mujahideen 1996)
If you don't know what you're talking about maybe you should keep your stupid trap shut as it makes you look like a loudmouthed fool to boast about your knowledge of history yet make such stupid claims. The truth is Russia has been repeatedly bitch-slapped dozens of times in wars by oftentimes much smaller opponents. Still, what else would you expect from the eternal bumbling peasants of Russia?
 
I wonder if the Russians know hmmmm. Watch Ukraine get 50 f16s. Half will be gone in a month. And most will be destroyed on the ground. But we will find out here eventually
 
Obviously you never learned from history or those books you read, you stupid ignorant retarded fuck.

You claim "nobody" has beaten Russia in the last 1,000 years? Except of course for:
  • The Cold War (West & NATO 1991)
  • World War I (German Empire 1918)
  • Crimean War (Britain & Ottoman Empire 1856)
  • The Russo-Japanese War (Japan 1905)
  • The Soviet-Afghan War (Afghan Mujahedeen 1989)
  • Livonian War (Livonian Confederation, Denmark-Norway, Sweden, Poland 1583)
  • Ingrian War (Sweden 1617)
  • Smolensk War (Poland, Lithuania 1634)
  • Alexis I’s Persian War (Persia 1653)
  • Sino-Russian War (China 1689)
  • Russo-Ottoman War (Ottoman Empire 1713)
  • Khivan War (Khanate of Khiva 1717)
  • War of the Third Coalition (France 1806)
  • Latvian War of Independence (Latvia, Poland, Lithuania, Germany 1920)
  • Estonian War of Independence (Estonia, Latvia, United Kingdom 1920)
  • Polish-Soviet War (Poland 1921)
  • First Chechan War (Chechan Republic of Ichkeria, Mujahideen 1996)
If you don't know what you're talking about maybe you should keep your stupid trap shut as it makes you look like a loudmouthed fool to boast about your knowledge of history yet make such stupid claims. The truth is Russia has been repeatedly bitch-slapped dozens of times in wars by oftentimes much smaller opponents. Still, what else would you expect from the eternal bumbling peasants of Russia?
I can see your feelings were hurt from the fact i stated. I can repeat what i wrote, so your feelings will be hurt much more: nobody has defeated Russia as a nation for 1000 of years. Nobody has conquered them and told how they should run their country. And no one will. You must be crying now. Here, take napkin.
 
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