FDA rejects MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD

[Christopher Hitchens]

Excerpt from NBC News article:
The Food and Drug Administration declined to approve MDMA, commonly known as ecstasy, as a treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder, drugmaker Lykos Therapeutics said Friday.

Experts and advocates say the decision is a minor setback in the growing movement to use psychedelics in the treatment of certain mental health conditions.

There had been intense political pressure on the FDA to approve the drug. Friday's decision was the first time the agency had considered a Schedule 1 psychedelic for medical use. If approved, it would have been the first new treatment for PTSD in more than two decades.

Lykos Therapeutics had asked the FDA to approve the drug as part of a treatment regimen, given alongside talk therapy.

The agency’s decision came after an independent advisory committee in June declined to recommend approval of the drug, saying there was not enough evidence that the therapy was safe and effective.‘

Full Article: FDA rejects psychedelic MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD

 

[Bad Hippo]

Well, I just used it recreationally. The idea of dealing with PTSD/grief/trauma, by getting shit-faced and hugging others while grooving to funky beats seems like a serious walk on the weird side to me....

 

[snagahbag]

Well, I just used it recreationally. The idea of dealing with PTSD/grief/trauma, by getting shit-faced and hugging others while grooving to funky beats seems like a serious walk on the weird side to me....

yea because it’s supposed to be mushrooms that helps this shit. never tried MDMA but from what i’ve heard it doesn’t sound like it would exactly work for this. Mushrooms on the other hand are a God given gift, help me and my friends quit smoking and even cured his depression so he says. Helped me a lot with acceptance and all sorts of inner problems with myself.

 

[JawshSB]

yea because it’s supposed to be mushrooms that helps this shit. never tried MDMA but from what i’ve heard it doesn’t sound like it would exactly work for this. Mushrooms on the other hand are a God given gift, help me and my friends quit smoking and even cured his depression so he says. Helped me a lot with acceptance and all sorts of inner problems with myself.

Have you tried dmt?

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

Well, I just used it recreationally. The idea of dealing with PTSD/grief/trauma, by getting shit-faced and hugging others while grooving to funky beats seems like a serious walk on the weird side to me....

That’s not what they are doing, that’s recreational use.

yea because it’s supposed to be mushrooms that helps this shit. never tried MDMA but from what i’ve heard it doesn’t sound like it would exactly work for this. Mushrooms on the other hand are a God given gift, help me and my friends quit smoking and even cured his depression so he says. Helped me a lot with acceptance and all sorts of inner problems with myself.

It wouldn’t work on its own probably but that’s why it’s therapy assisted,

Have you tried dmt?

Yes, you didn’t ask me but I’m answering anyway.

 

[JawshSB]

That’s not what they are doing, that’s recreational use.


It wouldn’t work on its own probably but that’s why it’s therapy assisted,


Yes, you didn’t ask me but I’m answering anyway.

That is the one i want to try, just need to make it

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

That is the one i want to try, just need to make it

You want to make the ayausca or whatever it’s spelled? I have only gotten dmt vape liquid before so I have never tried the oral kind. If you are in Canada, you can order 5-MeO-DMT, it’s legal there. It’s that shit in those frogs venom.

 

[LowkeyRenHana]

yea because it’s supposed to be mushrooms that helps this shit. never tried MDMA but from what i’ve heard it doesn’t sound like it would exactly work for this. Mushrooms on the other hand are a God given gift, help me and my friends quit smoking and even cured his depression so he says. Helped me a lot with acceptance and all sorts of inner problems with myself.

I wanna try shrooms but I hear there's a higher chance of getting psychosis if you have relatives who are schizophrenic or bipolar. I have a handful of relatives with that disorder so would taking shrooms not be a good choice?

 

[JawshSB]

You want to make the ayausca or whatever it’s spelled? I have only gotten dmt vape liquid before so I have never tried the oral kind. If you are in Canada, you can order 5-MeO-DMT, it’s legal there. It’s that shit in those frogs venom.

The ayausca is like a 5+ hour high, way too long for me, dmt is like 15 min that seems more my speed. I dont think i could milk a frog, so i will just do some chemisty with some tree bark

I wanna try shrooms but I hear there's a higher chance of getting psychosis if you have relatives who are schizophrenic or bipolar. I have a handful of relatives with that disorder so would taking shrooms not be a good choice?

Yes there is, my little brother became psychtzo from too many drugs, that is what has been holding me back all these years, even dmt can produce psychosis even though our brains release a little every night

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

The ayausca is like a 5+ hour high, way too long for me, dmt is like 15 min that seems more my speed. I dont think i could milk a frog, so i will just do some chemisty with some tree bark


Yes there is, my little brother became psychtzo from too many drugs, that is what has been holding me back all these years, even dmt can produce psychosis even though our brains release a little every night

What age did your bro become schizo? I assume you mean schizophrenia right?

 

[JawshSB]

What age did your bro become schizo? I assume you mean schizophrenia right?

Yes, around age 20

 

[snagahbag]

Have you tried dmt?

i have not, i do want to one day tho for sure. i just feel like im not ready for it yet.

The ayausca is like a 5+ hour high, way too long for me, dmt is like 15 min that seems more my speed. I dont think i could milk a frog, so i will just do some chemisty with some tree bark


Yes there is, my little brother became psychtzo from too many drugs, that is what has been holding me back all these years, even dmt can produce psychosis even though our brains release a little every night

yes it definitely can. i personally started not having the same level of respect for shrooms and started using them for fun and i can for sure see where it can cause some mental damage. that why it’s important to use them spiritually, with the upmost respect, and take the proper doses. sorry about ur brother too!

 

[Christopher Hitchens]

i have not, i do want to one day tho for sure. i just feel like im not ready for it yet.


yes it definitely can. i personally started not having the same level of respect for shrooms and started using them for fun and i can for sure see where it can cause some mental damage. that why it’s important to use them spiritually, with the upmost respect, and take the proper doses. sorry about ur brother too!

I agree they can cause mental damage but it hasn’t been shown to cause schizophrenia.

Yes, around age 20

ah see the problem is that’s when schizophrenia appears even in someone who has never take a psychedelic. For males it tends to appear late teens early twenties so I wouldn’t say it’s the shrooms that caused it, or I should say you can’t know it was. Meaning that if he never did shrooms he might have still developed it. The science isn’t clear either, there is a thought that it can trigger it in someone who was going to get it later or who is predisposed or something like that, I can’t remember the details exactly.

May I ask When did he first use shrooms?