" The thought of suicide is a powerful consolation . She helps get through more than one bad night . " Nietzsche . I have no pb with suicide : my life my pain my problems and my liberty to choose ...
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Serious Is suicide a "cowards way out"
- Thread starter Astralnaut
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So long as I’m healthy I’ll live but if I ever get a terminal illness that will harm my family’s mental state by being subjected to my decline I’ll sneak away and take my life somewhere in the woods to save them the trouble and the grief.
A lot of long answers that I haven't read. I'll be back fur that when I'm done driving.
I think from the person who is committing it... it's finally the bravest thing they've ever done. From the outside looking in, they soft afff fur that. But most the time, we don't know what their battle was and the reason why we fell they are soft is because we always believe we could have helped them.
It's your ego vs your belief of what the other person's ego is supposed to be
I think from the person who is committing it... it's finally the bravest thing they've ever done. From the outside looking in, they soft afff fur that. But most the time, we don't know what their battle was and the reason why we fell they are soft is because we always believe we could have helped them.
It's your ego vs your belief of what the other person's ego is supposed to be
I think of most suicides as an act of desperation than something courageous.
I'd say fuck no. It takes balls to end the shit. But it's a faggy way to go out, imo. We're all going to die anyway. Might as well make the most of it before clocking out.
Ramres
Well Known Member
It's really difficult to make sure when you're doing it by yourself. There is a reason why in most "kill yourself" rituals in different cultures, they usually had a second person there in case they fucked up so that they didn't have to ride on the ground and die slowly over the course of hours instead, or it was communial suicide. Not all, but most.
Even when Roman soldiers would an hero by falling in their sword, the usually had some kind of witness present.
You really just need to do it by yourself at your own risk and hope you don't fuck up.
“the more suicidal people there are, the less suicidal people there are.” - bill murray
CaveBuck
Terminally Chill
Suicide presupposes that life must justify itself through magnitude—through decisive purpose, coherent narrative, or sustained satisfaction. This presupposition is unwarranted. Existence does not require grandeur to retain validity; it operates sufficiently at the level of minimal positive experience.
Even under conditions of dissatisfaction, life continues to furnish discrete, low-order phenomena that are intrinsically non-negative: sensory impressions, minor comforts, passing curiosities. These do not amount to meaning in any elevated sense, yet they constitute experiential value nonetheless. To terminate life is to eliminate not only suffering, but also this continuous supply of minimally sufficient goods.
The rational question, then, is not whether life achieves some overarching justification, but whether the presence of any recurring, non-zero positive experience warrants continuation. So long as such instances persist—even in trivial form—the total negation of experience is not evidently preferable.
Thus, continuation requires no appeal to hope, destiny, or fulfillment. It is adequately grounded in the mere availability of experience that is, at minimum, tolerable, and at times, incrementally preferable to nothing.
In short: as long as life occasionally produces something even mildly decent, ending it is a bit like throwing away the whole meal because some of it tastes bad—and you don’t even get to check if dessert shows up.
Even under conditions of dissatisfaction, life continues to furnish discrete, low-order phenomena that are intrinsically non-negative: sensory impressions, minor comforts, passing curiosities. These do not amount to meaning in any elevated sense, yet they constitute experiential value nonetheless. To terminate life is to eliminate not only suffering, but also this continuous supply of minimally sufficient goods.
The rational question, then, is not whether life achieves some overarching justification, but whether the presence of any recurring, non-zero positive experience warrants continuation. So long as such instances persist—even in trivial form—the total negation of experience is not evidently preferable.
Thus, continuation requires no appeal to hope, destiny, or fulfillment. It is adequately grounded in the mere availability of experience that is, at minimum, tolerable, and at times, incrementally preferable to nothing.
In short: as long as life occasionally produces something even mildly decent, ending it is a bit like throwing away the whole meal because some of it tastes bad—and you don’t even get to check if dessert shows up.
CaveBuck
Terminally Chill
For example; Why hit the forever snooze button when you can just get laid or mow some grass, go duck hunting or go to a theatre. Go rippin' shitties on a dirt bike. You could also rather than die decide to just go kite surfing. Idk man, sometimes you gotta love the small stuff for a while until you get over the big stuff.
On a bus stop sign I once saw ‘the physical craving for <insert addiction> only lasts for a few minutes at a time.’
Take your demons by the minute if you have to. And know that each time you win you’re a little bit closer to what you’re seeking - release.
Take your demons by the minute if you have to. And know that each time you win you’re a little bit closer to what you’re seeking - release.
CaveBuck
Terminally Chill
Well said.
Outbreak92
Rookie
I know the ones that go through with it, almost never talk about it and almost appear like they got it all figured out. The ones that talk about doing it a lot are usually looking for attention or sympathy. I know two people that off'd themselves and you would never guess that they would've done it, they might hint at it with heavy drinking or sad music but even then that's hard to scope out, with damn near everyone having some kind of vice.
No, au contraire it's a courageous act.
SpudzMcKenzie
Rookie
60% of the time, works every time!
carnalheart
Natural Selection.
People in that mindframe truly believe that they will never experience joy or happiness, which is often what leads to committing suicide. Its really easy to look at it logically and come to the conclusion that it's stupid, but that's just the thing... suicidal people aren't operating on logic. At the end of the day, suicidal ideation is mental illness, and people who are thinking this way will behave in the way you can expect mentally ill people to behave. From the outside looking in, yeah, it's stupid, but these people aren't thinking about it the way we are.
Your not a coward if you succeed but you are selfish
Shadowman13
Open The Gates To The Shadow Realm
I see what people mean when they say "suicide is the coward's way out". I think it's pretty ballsy to try and kill yourself. Most people won't even cut themselves with a knife, but these are people who have the guts to end their life. Overriding the instinct of self preservation. With that being said, those who are unsuccessful in the attempt could make their life even worse (permanent disfiguration).
Soothinghum
Lurker
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