Is this a murder? (1 Viewer)

Do you think the victim really died in this video?

  • I am certain she died

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Highly possible she died

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • Hard to tell

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • I doubt she died

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • I am certain this is fake

    Votes: 7 41.2%

  • Total voters
    17

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guyme91 πŸ“¦πŸ”“

Kinky weirdo Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―
Hi, I am new here. I hope I am posting this in the right place, if not I apologize.

I recently found this video on motherless: Vacuum Snuff - MOTHERLESS.COM

And I have to wonder if I am seeing someone die. I will refer to the victim as female since she is dressed as female, but it hard to say for certain due to the outfit. A few observations that I have made are:

1. The victim was willingly participating in breath play since she was laying in the bag when the video started and offered no resistance throughout the video.

2. There is only one camera angle and poor lighting. This makes me think it is an amature video instead of a professional fake death video.

3. The victim and the killer are wearing masks which protect their identities. If this was a real death I would expect precautions to be taken to avoid being identified.

4. Perhaps the victim was willing to die which explains why she did not resist. Perhaps she didn't know when she would die, just that it was going to happen eventually. She may not even have known that a video was being taken due to the mask that she was wearing.

5. Perhaps the victim was willing to participate in breath play, but didn't want to die and the killer took things further than what she had agreed to. While she was being strangled she may have realized that he was taking it further than what she had agreed to, but it was too late, there was no way for her to fight back.

6. Perhaps when the victim was strangled she was acting and went limp for the video. The killer didn't seem to be strangling her very forcefully. Although it is hard to say for certain just how hard he was because of the quality of the video and the layers of material on the victim.

7. She was inside the vacuum bag for about 8 minutes at the end of the video. That is plenty of time to suffocate and even if she was taken out within seconds and some how revived she would have severe brain damage.

8. This could be a clever fake. The mask might very well be hiding some type of oxygen supply. However, during the time after strangulation the rise and fall of the victim's chest and belly is no long seen. During other portions of the video you can see that she is breathing.

9. While the killer is taking photos with his phone the body can see seen moving, but this could be the camera person nudging the body as they do several more times.

So in conclusion, I feel that the victim did in fact die, perhaps willingly, maybe not willingly. I'd love to hear what others think about this and if anyone knows the background on this video I'd like to hear it.
 

_Xtina_

Poster girl
I really cannot tell if it's fake or not. If it's not, we'll be hearing about it.

Even to fake this vid, the person playing the victim would have to have total trust in the other person, and trust that all props/plans work correctly.
 

zinfandel

The hair-flip of death
I would lay odds that it's fake simply because of the abundance of "snuff" vids that are. Also, we never see the victim's face and I would imagine that most killers would want to glory in their kill before stashing the stiff. That's my take.
 

D.O.A.

We are Kings
How's this vid any different from the japanese "porn" movies that do exactly the same shit? You don't see the Jap come out the bag but I assume they are all still alive

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guyme91 πŸ“¦πŸ”“

Kinky weirdo Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―
How's this vid any different from the japanese "porn" movies that do exactly the same shit? You don't see the Jap come out the bag but I assume they are all still alive

Yes, I have seen some of those before, but they are not typically inside the bag for 8 minutes. I know it is very possible that it is fake, but I do wonder how she survived not having oxygen for so long.
 

IamJacks

Lurker
There are people that are hard core breath play addicts, some can hold their breath for 11 minutes. Being a crappy video you can't tell if there are pin holes around the head area. Even with pin holes the person would pass out but isn't completely deprived.

I do find the idea of it being an elaborate suicide. Go out with a truly WTF video that leaves a lot of questions. I've wondered if there are really people that hire people to murder them, for insurance reasons. Is that fraud, they can't really prove it... So many questions.
 

kevin kirk

Forum Veteran
After the air is sucked out, you can see the inside of her left leg from the hip to the knee bending unlike a real human legs could do. You can also see once her right arm is straight, starting at 1:51, that the elbow isn't were it should be. Making her have a super long fore arm from her hand to her elbow. If you watch that when she slightly bends her right arm after 1:51, it doesn't bend like a arm would. Were the arm would normally bend at (inside the elbow), this folds like a crease instead of bends like a arm would. Kind of like a empty paper towel roll would crease if you would fold it or bend it.
 

gandog56

Well Known Member
There are people that are hard core breath play addicts, some can hold their breath for 11 minutes.
Funny, since your brain cells start to die after about one minute without oxygen unless you prebreath like pure oxygen for like half an hour first.
 
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