Vaccine mandated for construction workers ends badly (4 Viewers)

[Grand Mal Caesar]

CDC; Centre for Disease Control. Centre of excellence and knowledge of pandemics. I have total trust in this organisation. I understand the way they work and have no issues with it.

The pharmacy industry is built to manafacture and sell drugs. They are overseen by the Food and Drug Administration in the US. So there are checks and ballances on them. But in essence they are their own centre of excellence in the manafacture and testing of drugs. Yes, they want to make a profit and yes, they give doctors free trips to conferences where they spruik their wares, but I have no issue with trusting the products they produce.

I have no idea what I would ask a native American whetehr to trust the government of the US. I'm Australian by the way and live in Australia. I would not ask Aboriginal Australians whether I should trust my government as their views and ideas are totally irrelevant to me.

So I'm not sure of your point.

CDC is not a trustworthy agency. They are just as tainted as the current US administration. They fudge numbers, they flip-flop, they lie and they hide data. They also deny us access to drugs which have been proven successful in treating Covid and as a prophylaxis against Covid.

The pharmacology industry is a bunch of bullshit as well. Americans subsidize the cost of medications around the world by paying excessively high prices for their own.

 

[wiggins]

Flip in hec Wiggins your trying way to hard with this vacine. Just accept some people don't want it and move on pal.

Ah my dear Jizdrop1,

apart from feeling Im fighting a last stand as the barbarians hammer on the gates of Rome ready to burn down the libraries and cast us back into the dark ages, it's my hobby... I love this stuff. Fighting for science is the duty of every one who values logic.

In a world where you can say you're a woman and the powers that be will prosecute anyone who says you are not, then we know the fuckers are really close...

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CDC is not a trustworthy agency. They are just as tainted as the current US administration. They fudge numbers, they flip-flop, they lie and they hide data. They also deny us access to drugs which have been proven successful in treating Covid and as a prophylaxis against Covid.

The pharmacology industry is a bunch of bullshit as well. Americans subsidize the cost of medications around the world by paying excessively high prices for their own.

Well, yes, you may have a point. But trust is a matter of degree.

For example, I'd trust them enough to take a Targin for my compressed nerve pain knowing it will be oxycodone/naloxone in the right ratio and where the stated mg are correct, than trust the idea put forward that the COVID vaccine is actually a poison that is designed to ensure a mass die off of all who have taken it in 18 months time, which I read the other day in a reputable on line magazine's comments page.

Re Pharmacology costs:
Americans dont realise it but they are crying out for a nationalised medicine/ national health system. I find much to admire about the US and the people I've met have been fantastic and I have good American friends, but their health system is not one of those...

So I generally agree with what you say Mal...

 

[Brainfart]

CDC is not a trustworthy agency. They are just as tainted as the current US administration. They fudge numbers, they flip-flop, they lie and they hide data. They also deny us access to drugs which have been proven successful in treating Covid and as a prophylaxis against Covid.

The pharmacology industry is a bunch of bullshit as well. Americans subsidize the cost of medications around the world by paying excessively high prices for their own.

Also, the US tax payer funds the research and development for new drugs for the companies and then the companies the US tax payers do it for, reap the profits with no money being returned.
Charging the taxpayer that payed for the development $1000s of dollars for something that costs a few cents to make.

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Ah my dear Jizdrop1,

apart from feeling Im fighting a last stand as the barbarians hammer on the gates of Rome ready to burn down the libraries and cast us back into the dark ages, it's my hobby... I love this stuff. Fighting for science is the duty of every one who values logic.

In a world where you can say you're a woman and the powers that be will prosecute anyone who says you are not, then we know the fuckers are really close...

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Well, yes, you may have a point. But trust is a matter of degree.

For example, I'd trust them enough to take a Targin for my compressed nerve pain knowing it will be oxycodone/naloxone in the right ratio and where the stated mg are correct, than trust the idea put forward that the COVID vaccine is actually a poison that is designed to ensure a mass die off of all who have taken it in 18 months time, which I read the other day in a reputable on line magazine's comments page.

Re Pharmacology costs:
Americans dont realise it but they are crying out for a nationalised medicine/ national health system. I find much to admire about the US and the people I've met have been fantastic and I have good American friends, but their health system is not one of those...

So I generally agree with what you say Mal...

Dood, science is wrong all the time and is usually used as a tool of control by the puppet masters.
Climate change being a good example.

 

[Grand Mal Caesar]

Ah my dear Jizdrop1,

apart from feeling Im fighting a last stand as the barbarians hammer on the gates of Rome ready to burn down the libraries and cast us back into the dark ages, it's my hobby... I love this stuff. Fighting for science is the duty of every one who values logic.

In a world where you can say you're a woman and the powers that be will prosecute anyone who says you are not, then we know the fuckers are really close...

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Well, yes, you may have a point. But trust is a matter of degree.

For example, I'd trust them enough to take a Targin for my compressed nerve pain knowing it will be oxycodone/naloxone in the right ratio and where the stated mg are correct, than trust the idea put forward that the COVID vaccine is actually a poison that is designed to ensure a mass die off of all who have taken it in 18 months time, which I read the other day in a reputable on line magazine's comments page.

Re Pharmacology costs:
Americans dont realise it but they are crying out for a nationalised medicine/ national health system. I find much to admire about the US and the people I've met have been fantastic and I have good American friends, but their health system is not one of those...

So I generally agree with what you say Mal...

Your compressed nerve pain is not being used as a weapon though. Prior to covid the CDC really didn't have much reason to feed us bullshit. Since covid they have shown that they are just another corrupt government agency that can't be trusted.

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Also, the US tax payer funds the research and development for new drugs for the companies and then the companies the US tax payers do it for, reap the profits with no money being returned.
Charging the taxpayer that payed for the development $1000s of dollars for something that costs a few cents to make.

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Dood, science is wrong all the time and is usually used a tool of control of control by the puppet masters.
Climate change being a good example.

You are confusing science with scientists. Scientists can be wrong and they can be corrupt. It is corrupt scientists that are bad, not science.

Science can't be wrong and it can't be corrupt. Science is just observing and documenting. Don't blame science, blame the corrupt scientists.

 

[wiggins]

Your compressed nerve pain is not being used as a weapon though. Prior to covid the CDC really didn't have much reason to feed us bullshit. Since covid they have shown that they are just another corrupt government agency that can't be trusted.

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You are confusing science with scientists. Scientists can be wrong and they can be corrupt. It is corrupt scientists that are bad, not science.

Science can't be wrong and it can't be corrupt. Science is just observing and documenting. Don't blame science, blame the corrupt scientists.

very good point. It's the method that cant be wrong, not the cooks...

But I'm curious Mal. What is CDC lying to us about?
I certainly have my doubts about the UN and the way they handled it with a 'can't be racist about China' so won't put travel warnings etc out.
But I'm not up on the CDC angle. Open to enlightenment. Open minded. You appear reasonable so I'm all ears!

 

[Jon N.]

The construction union that supported the new law just got a response from its members, about an hour ago, about getting vaccinated or losing your job. They destroyed the place. Cops shot them with rubber bullets instead. Negotiations were short.

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‘F*** THE JAB’: Riot police use pepper spray and rubber bullets as Melbourne tradie protest escalates

Protesters also seemed to be turning against each other, with a number of small fights breaking out within the crowd.

7news.com.au

stupid government mandates all over the world is not going good at all. piss on mandates

 

[Grand Mal Caesar]

very good point. It's the method that cant be wrong, not the cooks...

But I'm curious Mal. What is CDC lying to us about?
I certainly have my doubts about the UN and the way they handled it with a 'can't be racist about China' so won't put travel warnings etc out.
But I'm not up on the CDC angle. Open to enlightenment. Open minded. You appear reasonable so I'm all ears!

Early on they were fudging numbers they received from hospitals. You die in a car crash but test positive for covid, you died from covid. The White House had to have the hospitals send their data directly to them first because the CDC couldn't be trusted.

They lied about who was dying from it. They made it sounds as though everyone was high risk for dying when it was mostly sick old folks and people with health issues and sick children. They lied about the survival rate for healthy people getting it. Some were lies of omission.

They hid data.

They flip-flopped all over about children needing to wear masks or not needing to wear masks and about children and vaccines.

They have been very inconsistent with information and instructions. There has been so much bullshit involved.

 

[mystery_man]

Terms like 'big pharma' immediately mark you as lunatic fringe.

me being a lunatic? definetly not, instead i like to think for myself after researching things. when fraudci / gov't tell you to jump off a bridge, will you do that too?

 

[NILIII]

I am. They pay well. I got Zero K a job too.

BRainfart, I am authorised to make you a one time offer of $40 000 US per week for you to join us.

all you have to do is to post the scripts they send us.

They write them and Zero K and I post them. Its money for jam man, really is...

Brought to you by Pfizer

 

[wiggins]

me being a lunatic? definetly not, instead i like to think for myself after researching things. when fraudci / gov't tell you to jump off a bridge, will you do that too?

And how's that working out for you son?

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Brought to you by Pfizer

Never bothered to check. My eyes aren't so good after the two innoculations...

 

[mystery_man]

And how's that working out for you son?

what exactly are you exactly implying here? anyways i'll check up on your comment later, i gotta go for now.

 

[Jizdrop1]

 

[wiggins]

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well, there you go.

ICU admissions further backs this up. Independant of vaccine given beds are 98+% taken up by non vaccinated.

Of course our anti vax Mensa members will say its all part of the conspiricy.

But they will be getting this beast sooner or later allthough on the plus side, mom's basement computer room is probably pretty safe ...

 

[Jizdrop1]

well, there you go.

ICU admissions further backs this up. Independant of vaccine given beds are 98+% taken up by non vaccinated.

Of course our anti vax Mensa members will say its all part of the conspiricy.

But they will be getting this beast sooner or later allthough on the plus side, mom's basement computer room is probably pretty safe ...

Give it a rest. I like you so i won't say any more.

 

[Brainfart]

well, there you go.

ICU admissions further backs this up. Independant of vaccine given beds are 98+% taken up by non vaccinated.

Of course our anti vax Mensa members will say its all part of the conspiricy.

But they will be getting this beast sooner or later allthough on the plus side, mom's basement computer room is probably pretty safe ...

From a few nurses I know, hospitals are full of adverse reactions. Most people that have died in Victoria and NSW recently were double jabbed.

 

[mojo_throws]

Pity they didn't shoot those anti vac bastards.

Gimme ur adress lets correct

Poor baby, my heart bleeds for you.

70% of medical ppl left jobs then take the vaccine. The more educated u are the less likely u are to take the vaccine. Only idiots believe what they are told wo self investigation someone like u.

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Union leaders took bribes just like the government , got what they deserved. Got off easy if u ask me. Targetted assasination of leaders is needed. Start with billie gates & george jew killer soros

 

[wiggins]

Early on they were fudging numbers they received from hospitals. You die in a car crash but test positive for covid, you died from covid. The White House had to have the hospitals send their data directly to them first because the CDC couldn't be trusted.

They lied about who was dying from it. They made it sounds as though everyone was high risk for dying when it was mostly sick old folks and people with health issues and sick children. They lied about the survival rate for healthy people getting it. Some were lies of omission.

They hid data.

They flip-flopped all over about children needing to wear masks or not needing to wear masks and about children and vaccines.

They have been very inconsistent with information and instructions. There has been so much bullshit involved.

Yes, there have been inconsistancies in Aus too. I put that down to changes in processes as new data comes in.
I'm not sure its part of some kind of consipiracy though.

I've had my two shots and booster will come just before winter, say March April. I'm scared of this illness and really dont want to catch it. My understanding is that the vaccine is highly effective in mitigating the symptoms if you do get it and keeping you out of hospital.

 

[Grand Mal Caesar]

Yes, there have been inconsistancies in Aus too. I put that down to changes in processes as new data comes in.
I'm not sure its part of some kind of consipiracy though.

I've had my two shots and booster will come just before winter, say March April. I'm scared of this illness and really dont want to catch it. My understanding is that the vaccine is highly effective in mitigating the symptoms if you do get it and keeping you out of hospital.

CDC was outright jerking us off.

Unless you are old, fat and/or riddled with health problems you wouldn't have anything to worry about without the vaccine. The Vaccine adds an element of uncertainty in regards to complications.

When I had it, I found it to be more annoyance than illness. My symptoms were very mild. The worst part for me was lack of appetite and lack of sleep. I couldn't sleep unless I popped 5 or 6 25mg diphenhydramine pills and I didn't eat any solid food for about a week.

 

[wiggins]

CDC was outright jerking us off.

Unless you are old, fat and/or riddled with health problems you wouldn't have anything to worry about without the vaccine. The Vaccine adds an element of uncertainty in regards to complications.

When I had it, I found it to be more annoyance than illness. My symptoms were very mild. The worst part for me was lack of appetite and lack of sleep. I couldn't sleep unless I popped 5 or 6 25mg diphenhydramine pills and I didn't eat any solid food for about a week.

Wow, you got it. and got over it. Well done.

Many people will be asymptomatic. But a lot wont and will clog up the ICU's.

We will build up an immunity to it eventually but I still don't want to get it.

Always good to have a rave with you Mal. Nice to see we can have disagreements and still have respectful posts.

Another day dawns here and off to walk with cows and sheep... take care...

 

[Damo0666™️]

I wish u nonvaxers could see what those of us working in the medical field deal with. By far the nonvaxers are the ones coming in sick. Medical rationing is a reality because of nonvaxers. ICU's are 80% full. An unheard of number pre COVID.

If the vaccine is so great then why are you vaccinated people so scared of the unvaccinated 🤔 surly your vaccine will protect you and it should be about choice no one should be blackmailed in to taken something they don't want, the vaccine clearly isn't working otherwise covid cases and deaths wouldn't be rising, the governments, scientists and doctors have got people terrified of a virus with a 99% survival rate,

children and the elderly walking around wearing 2 masks and scared of being around people it's ridiculous, they should be promoting a healthy lifestyle and telling people how to boost their immune systems, but no they would rather people live in fear