Russian Civil War (oh shit)

[Punisher_1]

It's already over.

Maybe

See there are thousands of Wagner-hired troops and once they not paid they will leave and no one is going to stop them. Because Russians are loosing thousands of troops and not feeding or paying them Russia cannot afford the high dollar Mercs. Or has a general capable of using them to do the job. This will be over sooner than later.

 

[deviant2]

Makes me wonder if the biden regime is manipulating all three sides. Ukraine, Russia and Wagner... and while this is going on, what of significance is happening somewhere else?

 

[Guipago]

Latest blab, boo & hiss.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06...ps-back-to-bases-to-avoid-bloodshed/102520540

Interesting Putin, apparently, used 3,000 elite? Chechen troops around Moscow, don't want the Russian troops joining Wagner---do we

Makes me wonder if the biden regime is manipulating all three sides. Ukraine, Russia and Wagner... and while this is going on, what of significance is happening somewhere else?

Your giving the US too much credit, they're not behind 'every' evil plot (just most)

 

[Sauerkraut]

So, apparently the psyop is over. Prigozhin was sent to Belarus and his mercenaries will be absorbed into the Russian army. As usual, NAFO fucks look like the idiots that they are. On the upside, Netflix plans a 6 part docudrama about the whole episode, starring actors who reflect diversity and inclusion:

 

[D.O.A.]

Maybe

See there are thousands of Wagner-hired troops and once they not paid they will leave and no one is going to stop them. Because Russians are loosing thousands of troops and not feeding or paying them Russia cannot afford the high dollar Mercs. Or has a general capable of using them to do the job. This will be over sooner than later.

Nothing to do with it

He regrettably went rogue, however, which was likely due to two so-called “trigger events”: the previously mentioned requirement for all PMCs to sign contracts with the DM and President Putin’s recent signals that he’s interested in politically resolving the proxy war if Russia’s security is ensured. The first was already touched upon while the latter was analyzed at length in this piece here, which cites his own words from the official Kremlin transcripts of three relevant events earlier this month.

...the Defence Ministry mandated that all private military companies (PMCs) sign contracts with it, which Prigozhin adamantly refused to do. This was the first time that he was openly placed on the opposite side of President Putin, who told war correspondents earlier this month that “if there is no contract with the state, no contract with the Defence Ministry, there are no legal grounds for receiving social guarantees from the state. This must be done as soon as possible.

 

[Solomon Kane]

Time for the popcorn... let's see where this goes..

That was fast... Wagner leader on his way to his death in Belarus.. oh well...

 

[Punisher_1]

Nothing to do with it

He regrettably went rogue, however, which was likely due to two so-called “trigger events”: the previously mentioned requirement for all PMCs to sign contracts with the DM and President Putin’s recent signals that he’s interested in politically resolving the proxy war if Russia’s security is ensured. The first was already touched upon while the latter was analyzed at length in this piece here, which cites his own words from the official Kremlin transcripts of three relevant events earlier this month.

...the Defence Ministry mandated that all private military companies (PMCs) sign contracts with it, which Prigozhin adamantly refused to do. This was the first time that he was openly placed on the opposite side of President Putin, who told war correspondents earlier this month that “if there is no contract with the state, no contract with the Defence Ministry, there are no legal grounds for receiving social guarantees from the state. This must be done as soon as possible.

What we hear and what happens are vastly different.

MOD said he needed to turn over his troops
His troops were attacked by the MOD
They were denied ammunition in the middle of a battle
He stated that the Govt has lied about troop and equipment losses
Russia is weak and nothing stopped Wagner from driving almost to Moscow
How many aircraft were lost in this coup?

Why continue to serve if you are not going to get paid and the leadership is incompetent? After all they are just going to get you killed.

Russia will use these guys up get them killed and all for nothing so they don't have to pay them.

End of the day Russia is shit and they are doomed to fail all the while stacking the souls of people thinking they are doing the right thing but its all a lie.

 

[mrln]

He is the only major statesman on the world stage who is opposing the New World Order.

yea but at least he has the balls to speak out against it. everyone else is just going with it because they were probably and most likely bullied into goin with it.

 

[Smedley D. Butler]

 

[NiceGuyEddie]

Although it was a very shortlived rebellion, it has to have caused a large crack in the foundation of the Russian military.

 

[no u]

So clearly all you know is Russian propaganda? Because the truth is out and your fellow countrymen are being slaughtered by generals that don't give a shit. It seems the war took a turn and it will be interesting to see the fall out. Granted Russia is pretty much fucked in the world scene.

I ain't russian, bud. Nore do I take their side. All I said Prigojin was doing a failed power seize which we see now that it failed indeed

 

[Punisher_1]

I ain't russian, bud. Nore do I take their side. All I said Prigojin was doing a failed power seize which we see now that it failed indeed

Naw, more to it but so much assumptions and guesses. He has come out with a statement of intent. All I see is a weak Russia and the eventual downfall of Putin and hopefully this war.

 

[D.O.A.]

Although it was a very shortlived rebellion, it has to have caused a large crack in the foundation of the Russian military.

Nope, besides the hand rubbing by western media tards this is a giant nothingburger

https://korybko.substack.com/p/prigozhins-first-audio-message-since

 

[mrln]

think how russia would be like, if prigozhin over threw putin.

 

[D.O.A.]

think how russia would be like, if prigozhin over threw putin.

It's a wet dream for the media but the reality is it will never happen.

 

[mrln]

It's a wet dream for the media but the reality is it will never happen.

yea i get that. but just sayin is all. would it be worse? i dont know much about this guy and his past. other than he and putin were chums.

 

[D.O.A.]

yea i get that. but just sayin is all. would it be worse? i dont know much about this guy and his past. other than he and putin were chums.

The west make out like he's an illiterate sausage vendor but the man's a fairly shrewd billionaire, he'll run what's left of wagner from a hotel in Minsk.

The Wagner chief started off by alleging that his group would have ceased to legally exist by 1 July after refusing to sign contracts with the Defense Ministry (DM) despite all of its accomplishments in advancing Russian interests across the world

Imagine being told your private army needs to become a state asset. Predictably he lost his shit over it.

Wagner members might have been prohibited from participating in the special operation and had their activities inside Russia restricted due to their group’s lack of legal status, but there are no grounds to believe that its African-based fighters would have been prevented from fulfilling their duties there.

This all boils down to "your services are no longer required in Ukraine". If your boys want to keep fighting, sign contracts with the ministry of defence. If not, fuck off. Prigozhin just lost a lot of money he's been cut out. Putin let him troll army generals up until this point as long as the meat grinder functioned. Now he's done and he didn't take it very well.

 

[mrln]

The west make out like he's an illiterate sausage vendor but the man's a fairly shrewd billionaire, he'll run what's left of wagner from a hotel in Minsk.

The Wagner chief started off by alleging that his group would have ceased to legally exist by 1 July after refusing to sign contracts with the Defense Ministry (DM) despite all of its accomplishments in advancing Russian interests across the world

Imagine being told your private army needs to become a state asset. Predictably he lost his shit over it.

Wagner members might have been prohibited from participating in the special operation and had their activities inside Russia restricted due to their group’s lack of legal status, but there are no grounds to believe that its African-based fighters would have been prevented from fulfilling their duties there.

This all boils down to "your services are no longer required in Ukraine". If your boys want to keep fighting, sign contracts with the ministry of defence. If not, fuck off. Prigozhin just lost a lot of money he's been cut out. Putin let him troll army generals up until this point as long as the meat grinder functioned. Now he's done and he didn't take it very well.

"in a nutshell"
thanks bro.

 

[Guipago]

The upside is that Putin didn't get rid of his incompetent Generals as Prigozhin wanted.

 

[D.O.A.]

The upside is that Putin didn't get rid of his incompetent Generals as Prigozhin wanted.

Surovikin looks like he doesn't give a fuck how this pans out