14 Students, 1 Teacher Dead in a School Shooting (4 Viewers)

[Middlebucks12]

Does anyone know why that teacher propped the door open at the beginning of this ordeal ?

 

[Conkevo]

You don’t see the neighboring countries kids shooting up schools, Repubs need to chill with the pissing of pants over GUN CONTROL laws not Gun Restrictions. All everyone else wants is that if a kid brings a gun to school it better be a Glock nine or pussy pistol, not an ak-47.
Atp, school shootings are just a part of growing up. I mean, did you even have a memorable childhood if none of your schools were Pistols ALREADY contribute to like 80% of firearm related homicides.

Let's ban everything but pistols, would be super effective.
Not like pistols are like 80% of firearm related homicides.
Smh. Retard.

So you're black AND gay? I'm pretty sure that's the worst combination anyone could possibly be.

If he was in a wheelchair, he'd be the poster child for the PC/virtue signaling police.

 

[mrln]

the NRA endorses too many politicians for there to be much done about this problem with firearms in this country.

 

[bgirl]

Since the last post in this thread there have been many revelations about police incompetence, how 10 year olds lay dying for an hour, children playing dead with their friends blood, and an 18 year old buying a gun and thousands of rounds of ammunition on credit. Yet the members of this board would rather push the fake shit.

 

[Fact21]

You already have to have a background check done to buy firearms from a dealer. There are no background checks done between private buyers and sellers which really even if it were a law is unenforceable since the sale is basically untraceable.

I’m aware of the use of a silencer and it’s abilities, still I don’t see why anyone needs one. And the gun laws are severely laxed. I’ve seen a man walk into a retail store, pick a gun, buy it and leave. He showed his license but nothing more than that. And nothing more happened. So this little bastard goes and gets a firearm, kills a bunch of children and people still will argue their gun rights are more important than these kids who died. Or the people who were shot in a grocery store. No. You have fun rights. But you should advocate for more gun safety and safer practices. I know if some dumbass acquires them from a third party there are limitations. But those people could be found more if the ATF focused on it. They never will though.

Your full of shit he just showed a license and that it…..he had a background check. No FFA will sell a gun without one.
I can’t stand the idol who say, take the guns away….do you really think that psyco would abide by any law when he has his mind set to kill? More background checks, universal background checks, no guns til your 21 would of never stopped any mass shooting. Enforce the laws on the books….if the “government” would of did their job and reported he made threats and had a psyc evaluation , like they are supposed to report to NICS, this lunatic would of been denied the purchase….nearly every mass shooting the “government” in one way another fucked up and probably could of been prevented….if he would of been denied the firearm purchase that get reported to local law enforcement for them to investigate…..stop fucking think limiting your 2A rights are going to stop this shit.

 

[Blanche Hudson]

Your full of shit he just showed a license and that it…..he had a background check. No FFA will sell a gun without one.
I can’t stand the idol who say, take the guns away….do you really think that psyco would abide by any law when he has his mind set to kill? More background checks, universal background checks, no guns til your 21 would of never stopped any mass shooting. Enforce the laws on the books….if the “government” would of did their job and reported he made threats and had a psyc evaluation , like they are supposed to report to NICS, this lunatic would of been denied the purchase….nearly every mass shooting the “government” in one way another fucked up and probably could of been prevented….if he would of been denied the firearm purchase that get reported to local law enforcement for them to investigate…..stop fucking think limiting your 2A rights are going to stop this shit.

All I will say is I’m not completely full of shit. I’ve seen a few people do it. I could go and buy a gun today and within 30 minutes walk out with it. To me that’s beyond idiotic. But, how do you monitor shit with HIPPA and all the moronic safeguards. I do agree that our government is ran by fucking assholes who abuse their power. I don’t think there should be anything done with the 2nd amendment. I just think we have a problem that people go to very, very, different extremes. I don’t think anyone needs an AR-15 to feel secure. But I do think that people have the right to own guns but need to do so responsibly. Our country has a very scary problem. And they will never, ever fix it. It seems easier to continue to let a serious problem keep going. It seems to be young boys, with issues who can’t get laid or fall for Trumptard or Incel logic because a girl wouldn’t talk to them. I’m at a total fucking loss as to what is right or wrong. It’s all fubar in my opinion.

 

[cannedkittens]

All those good guys with guns outside blocking distraught parents from getting their kids while the shooter was still killing children in the classroom.

I’m not saying the police responded well that day, but there are reasons that these scenes need cleared….possibility of explosives and bigger body count being a major one.
One thing I have noticed about you, bgirl, is you are so fucking eager and excited to second guess other people’s actions, but usually have no better ideas yourself.
You’re probably one of the fucking bright ones who were talking about defunding police a few months ago… now they didn’t get there quick enough? Which is it? 😆😆


Fucking liberal cunts.

 

[juicycoochie]

Place your bets folks. Running 3:1 odds it was a white boy, probably 18 or 19!

You literally read and saw before posting this… nice try tho. 😂😂😂😂

 

[Fact21]

All I will say is I’m not completely full of shit. I’ve seen a few people do it. I could go and buy a gun today and within 30 minutes walk out with it. To me that’s beyond idiotic. But, how do you monitor shit with HIPPA and all the moronic safeguards. I do agree that our government is ran by fucking assholes who abuse their power. I don’t think there should be anything done with the 2nd amendment. I just think we have a problem that people go to very, very, different extremes. I don’t think anyone needs an AR-15 to feel secure. But I do think that people have the right to own guns but need to do so responsibly. Our country has a very scary problem. And they will never, ever fix it. It seems easier to continue to let a serious problem keep going. It seems to be young boys, with issues who can’t get laid or fall for Trumptard or Incel logic because a girl wouldn’t talk to them. I’m at a total fucking loss as to what is right or wrong. It’s all fubar in my opinion.

The AR is a .223 round….how come nobody wants to ban the mini-14…..exact same gun, same round but, it just looks different. The AR is the most popular hunting rifle there is and the ATF confirms this…..why are they not complaining about the Glock or Sig handguns that the military use and civilians can purchase? Handguns are used in more mass murders and killings than the AR. And HIPPA does apply on a NICS check how your thinking…..it’s federal law and state law that anyone who is a threat and/or any type of drug abuse, domestic violence, mental alerts/stays are supposed to be sent to NICS…..which as we seen here again, they fail to do their jobs.

 

[whiteboyopie]

They need to hire a group of sociologists and find a solution

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Do the American people really need a professional psychiatrist to tell them that it is there lack of a moral code that is causing these mass shootings .
Americans are vacant of any moral codes.
They accepted abortion then shortly after mass shootings occurred. This is how sin works. It grows from a small sin to what we have now.

Back in the mid 70's these did not occur . In 1973 abortion was deemed legal. Since then praying aloud to " God" was outlawed.
I feel these events are absolutely proportional to the madness that has occurred since.

If anyone can prove differently I am all ears.

 

[KingCold]

All those good guys with guns outside blocking distraught parents from getting their kids while the shooter was still killing children in the classroom.

Alot to criticize the police for here but what is your point? Oh no the police are stopping parents from rushing into a school to potentially get shot. Or make the situation worse? The good guy with the gun should have been a teacher in the school but hey good law-abiding citizens respect gun free zones, shame that this guy didn't listen

 

[bgirl]

I’m not saying the police responded well that day, but there are reasons that these scenes need cleared….possibility of explosives and bigger body count being a major one.
One thing I have noticed about you, bgirl, is you are so fucking eager and excited to second guess other people’s actions, but usually have no better ideas yourself.
You’re probably one of the fucking bright ones who were talking about defunding police a few months ago… now they didn’t get there quick enough? Which is it? 😆😆


Fucking liberal cunts.

I've never advocated to defund the police. I think the police are underpaid, undertrained, not screened well, and overly equipped. I think police departments hire warm bodies, give them guns and armor, then they're expected to be heroes. Instead of investing their city's money in fancy stuff and weapons they don't need, they should be investing in the quality of those they're hiring. The town of Uvalde is only 16k people and the police department is 40% of the budget(4 million). I don't believe the tax payers got their monies worth. I would guess the weren't even following their own written procedures which would explain why they're not cooperating with the states investigation and have been lying since the start. I usually participate in subjects that interest me or that I'm knowledgeable. Disaster response is something I know a little bit about and second guessing other people is something I get paid to do.


Aren't you the guy that claimed to be studying criminal justice? So tell me what important thing would be going on for 77 minutes from the hallway while children lay dying?

 

[Racist Bastard]

Place your bets folks. Running 3:1 odds it was a white boy, probably 18 or 19!

Well turns out your kinda right. But it prefers to be called a "she".

I've never advocated to defund the police. I think the police are underpaid, undertrained, not screened well, and overly equipped. I think police departments hire warm bodies, give them guns and armor, then they're expected to be heroes. Instead of investing their city's money in fancy stuff and weapons they don't need, they should be investing in the quality of those they're hiring. The town of Uvalde is only 16k people and the police department is 40% of the budget(4 million). I don't believe the tax payers got their monies worth. I would guess the weren't even following their own written procedures which would explain why they're not cooperating with the states investigation and have been lying since the start. I usually participate in subjects that interest me or that I'm knowledgeable. Disaster response is something I know a little bit about and second guessing other people is something I get paid to do.


Aren't you the guy that claimed to be studying criminal justice? So tell me what important thing would be going on for 77 minutes from the hallway while children lay dying?

They 100% fucked up. They were more worried about there own lives than those k8ds they left to fend for themselves. You can be a total fucking idiot and as long as you don't have a record you can be a cop. These cops prove that

 

[bgirl]

Alot to criticize the police for here but what is your point? Oh no the police are stopping parents from rushing into a school to potentially get shot. Or make the situation worse? The good guy with the gun should have been a teacher in the school but hey good law-abiding citizens respect gun free zones, shame that this guy didn't listen

lol They were more aggressive with the parents than the shooter. The police were too afraid to engage a kid with an AR and you think people that have dedicated their careers to education should be military trained? The US will lose many good teachers in the coming years for lack of support and respect. We've lost many in the medical field for the same reasons over the last few years.

The guys in kevlar in that video get paid from the tax payers and they take an oath to defend the town. Teachers are meant to educate and inspire learning in our children. Most are mothers and grandmothers and many are not going to return next fall, there's already a shortage. They will fast track newly graduated teachers just to fill the gaps. There will be a hard push for home schooling by the holy rollers. It's easier to control what you read and think from the church rather than sitting at a desk being groomed by a libtard granny that refuses to carry a gun.

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[DeviantHawthorne]

The AR is a .223 round….how come nobody wants to ban the mini-14…..exact same gun, same round but, it just looks different. The AR is the most popular hunting rifle there is and the ATF confirms this…..why are they not complaining about the Glock or Sig handguns that the military use and civilians can purchase? Handguns are used in more mass murders and killings than the AR. And HIPPA does apply on a NICS check how your thinking…..it’s federal law and state law that anyone who is a threat and/or any type of drug abuse, domestic violence, mental alerts/stays are supposed to be sent to NICS…..which as we seen here again, they fail to do their jobs.

Who the fuck buckhunts with an AR?

this could of very easily been prevented if the teachers or security were armed, or even if they locked down the school after hearing about him shooting his grandma, taking away our 2nd amendment won’t do shit except take away our ability to protect ourself from our shitty government. which i’m sure they’re thrilled about this fear situation

As the facts are coming out it's becoming more and more apparent there was a buttload of 'good guys' on scene and didn't do shit....well atleast until forced to do so as he started room sweeping his hostages

 

[cannedkittens]

I've never advocated to defund the police. I think the police are underpaid, undertrained, not screened well, and overly equipped. I think police departments hire warm bodies, give them guns and armor, then they're expected to be heroes. Instead of investing their city's money in fancy stuff and weapons they don't need, they should be investing in the quality of those they're hiring. The town of Uvalde is only 16k people and the police department is 40% of the budget(4 million). I don't believe the tax payers got their monies worth. I would guess the weren't even following their own written procedures which would explain why they're not cooperating with the states investigation and have been lying since the start. I usually participate in subjects that interest me or that I'm knowledgeable. Disaster response is something I know a little bit about and second guessing other people is something I get paid to do.


Aren't you the guy that claimed to be studying criminal justice? So tell me what important thing would be going on for 77 minutes from the hallway while children lay dying?

Police already have some of the most stringent hiring processes. Police are humans though, just like everyone else and do make mistakes. The difference is the public only hears about the mistakes, never the countless good things they do in a day. There are always people like you who live to point out their mistakes. In reality if you were put in the situations police are you would freeze and fuck it up 10X worse. All talk.

I don’t know all of the details of what happened in this particular shooting, just like you probably don’t… unlike yourself I choose not to speak about something unless I have details ( from a reliable source).

 

[KingCold]

Who the fuck buckhunts with an AR?

bout 27% of hunters, please tell me you arent one of those people who think a ar-15 is military grade weaponry

lol They were more aggressive with the parents than the shooter. The police were too afraid to engage a kid with an AR and you think people that have dedicated their careers to education should be military trained? The US will lose many good teachers in the coming years for lack of support and respect. We've lost many in the medical field for the same reasons over the last few years.

The guys in kevlar in that video get paid from the tax payers and they take an oath to defend the town. Teachers are meant to educate and inspire learning in our children. Most are mothers and grandmothers and many are not going to return next fall, there's already a shortage. They will fast track newly graduated teachers just to fill the gaps. There will be a hard push for home schooling by the holy rollers. It's easier to control what you read and think from the church rather than sitting at a desk being groomed by a libtard granny that refuses to carry a gun.

Damn you mean the people screaming in their face unarmed was easier to handle then an active shooter. Are you being disingenuous? The parents screaming and crying in their face (understandably mind you) is far easier to handle then someone who can shoot you, also "military trained?" Never said that, you don't need "Military training" to conceal carry, are you high? You can get a license in 4 hours, and not every teacher is some libtard antigun bullshit. I knew two teachers who had guns in school when I was growing up, so spare me that it would be that hard to find at least 1-2,

 

[NoConvexity]

Bullshit fake shooting.

 

[Fact21]

Who the fuck buckhunts with an AR?

As the facts are coming out it's becoming more and more apparent there was a buttload of 'good guys' on scene and didn't do shit....well atleast until forced to do so as he started room sweeping his hostages

Are you kidding me? Who hunts with an AR…..about 99% of hunters do. The ATF even states that.

 

[bgirl]

Police already have some of the most stringent hiring processes. Police are humans though, just like everyone else and do make mistakes. The difference is the public only hears about the mistakes, never the countless good things they do in a day. There are always people like you who live to point out their mistakes. In reality if you were put in the situations police are you would freeze and fuck it up 10X worse. All talk.

I don’t know all of the details of what happened in this particular shooting, just like you probably don’t… unlike yourself I choose not to speak about something unless I have details ( from a reliable source).

Don't you believe the person of the highest authority in the state of Texas should be a reliable source of information? Police do make mistakes but considering the importance of their job and the fact that they are funded by the citizens, they should be scrutinized and held to a high standard of accountability. You don't know anything about me kitten. People like me know that police, fire, and first responders are required to keep a timeline on every incident. The timeline starts from the first second of dispatch, and there are multiple people keeping these timelines because multiple people are dispatched to each call. By the time the Governor went on TV there should have been enough documented information available to not lie. Now he says he's livid over being given incorrect information which I don't believe. The Mayor is saying that the hostage negotiator tried calling Ramos but he didn't answer.

Since those first lies there's been a dozen or so more and now that 10 year kids are telling their stories it sounds even worse. Besides the 21 that died there were another 17 injured and 5 are still in the hospital with one child paralyzed. None of the dead children are able to have open casket funerals.

They waited for a key from a janitor to go through the door and the kids are saying at least one window was already shot out. He played music and taunted the teacher. He told them they were going to die and shot a child that called out for help in response to a policeman's call. So if those kids heard the cops request, the cops heard the child's response and subsequent shots fired. One of the children on the phone with 911 told the other kids that the police were not coming for them. A little girl was interviewed yesterday at her friends funeral and she said she turned off her dead friends phone after Ramos killed her for using it because she didn't want him to shoot anymore of her friends. The surviving children don't understand why it took so long for someone to save them.

I think the children are the most reliable source of information.

bout 27% of hunters, please tell me you arent one of those people who think a ar-15 is military grade weaponry

Damn you mean the people screaming in their face unarmed was easier to handle then an active shooter. Are you being disingenuous? The parents screaming and crying in their face (understandably mind you) is far easier to handle then someone who can shoot you, also "military trained?" Never said that, you don't need "Military training" to conceal carry, are you high? You can get a license in 4 hours, and not every teacher is some libtard antigun bullshit. I knew two teachers who had guns in school when I was growing up, so spare me that it would be that hard to find at least 1-2,

What makes you think grandma with a conceal carry license is going to be able to fend off a kid spraying a classroom with hundreds of bullets? School shooter drills are usually conducted by the local police departments. Active shooter response drill plans are usually written and overseen by former or current military and SWAT personnel. An armed teacher being trained for an active shooter would probably receive the more in depth training but she would still be outgunned by a kid with an AR15.

Ramos tried to get his sister to get him a gun when he was 17 but she refused. So he had to wait until he was 18 when it was legal for him to get it with no money down. Those stupid gun laws prevented him from doing it a year earlier.